Twitter: Dak against playoff teams

[DarkVader33]

So it's a team game when Brady is winning super bowls, but if Dak manages to win a playoff game again it will be all because of Dak. And should Dallas lose their next playoff game we will blame the defense and call it a team game again.

Just wanting to make sure I'm getting this right.

Are you talking to me? Are YOU talking to me? I don’t engage in those silly arguments. You must be thinking of someone else

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

See...this proves you know little about football. Pickens ABILITY was unquestioned. His QBs were trash and his attitude was as well - chicken and egg there.

Bottom line, if Dak is so good at making Pickens and Lamb...make another HOV. Let's not pay CeeDee or Pickens and then watch you squeal about Dak having "no help".

Game-Set-Match

Got EM!

Lamb was a highly decorated college player.

Before Amari got to Dallas....

Raiders

6

22

280

12.7

1

46.7

Cowboys

9

53

725

13.7

6

80.6

Before Randall Cobb got here

2018

Green Bay Packers

9

38

383

10.1

2

2019

Dallas Cowboys

15

55

828

15.1

3

Cedric Wilson with Dallas vs leaving Dallas

2021

Cowboys

16

45

602

13.4

6

2022

Dolphins

15

12

136

11.3

0

Before Pickens got here.....

2024

Pittsburgh Steelers

14

59

900

15.2

3

2025

Dallas Cowboys

17

93

1,429

15.4

9

It is what it is.....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No before the mediocrity, the cowboys were bad. That is something people seem to try to psychologically blackmail us with, whenever someone brings up that we are not going to win a super bowl with the current quarterback. Yes Jerry is the problem, and things look grim, but I rather take a chance to get past the mediocrity and perhaps hit gold, or perhaps sink to new lows.

People bringing up the Campo years, doesn't change that some of us want change. Keeping the team mediocre won't lead to us getting better, we will still get to the same point where we will have to take a chance, eventually. It just seems to be postponing the inevitable for the sake of keeping the team mediocre for longer. I'm just pointing out where the psychology of some of those differ from others.

Philadelphia is able to move on from Quarterbacks and so are other teams. Yes the cowboys have Jerry, coaching issues and other problems, but it seems like the only option is to find someone who can rally the troops in the playoffs with on the field leadership, and make up for the lack of coaching from puppet coaches.

Romo and Dak, both good quarterbacks that could win on other teams, but here they have similar playoff records, and I don't see us getting super talented teams like 2007, 2014, 2016 enough to get too excited that a talented team is going to help carry a good quarterback through the playoffs.

Well....how did the 5-11 Campo years go for us? Future was bright huh? Whatever hope you have should be ruined when you realize the same person is here that went 5-11. Same person who signed Ryan Leaf, Chad Huthison and Drew Henson is still here. The same guy who drafted Quincy Carter in the 2nd who was projected to be a 4th or 5th round pick. The same guy who drafted Shante Carver, Kelden Joseph, Trysten Hill.....all still here.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I was with you until you said "prove them wrong, even if the rest of the team sucks".

If thats the case, why do Matthew Stafford get so many excuses for his time in Detroit?

Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in football and is as elite as they come.... but he couldn't even make it to the playoffs because the rest of his team sucks.

I understand somewhat of where you coming from, but that logic would never apply here for the Cowboys. No matter how we lose or who was at fault. When the Cowboys lose, some people will blame the quarterback no matter how well he played or if he played bad.

Look how many people attach our 7-9-1 record from last year to the offense despite having a top 4 offense.

If you have coaches who aren't leaders, where do you get leadership required to make a run in the playoffs? Sad truth is, it is going to have to fall upon the quarterback, which is asking a lot. A 2-5 record in the playoff, a reputation for having a dear caught in the headlights of a truck expression playing in the big game, when other teams have kicked it up a notch, doesn't exactly make me think that next attempt at the playoff is going to be any better. Why keep trying with the same guy, if the results don't seem to improve? If leadership doesn't come from the coaches, then you need someone who is one hell on the field leader, not a locker room leader.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If you have coaches who aren't leaders, where do you get leadership required to make a run in the playoffs? Sad truth is, it is going to have to fall upon the quarterback, which is asking a lot. A 2-5 record in the playoff, a reputation for having a dear caught in the headlights of a truck expression playing in the big game, when other teams have kicked it up a notch, doesn't exactly make me think that next attempt at the playoff is going to be any better. Why keep trying with the same guy, if the results don't seem to improve? If leadership doesn't come from the coaches, then you need someone who is one hell on the field leader, not a locker room leader.

Cowboys lack of playoff success goes back to Aikman. We always have a excuse for why that is....right now its Dak can't "kick it up a notch", before that it was Romo "chokes in big moments"....before that it was Aikman was old....these excuses are getting tired. I'm not sure how you guys can pretend like the problem isn't the guy in the booth. We can sit here and say Romo and Dak weren't good enough to win.....fair. But your GM thought Trysten Hill and Mazi Smith were key pieces to winning....in a league where Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, Aaron Donald and Vita Vea are SB winners....your GM looked at Mazi Smith and Trysten Hill and thought those were pieces to winning. As important as that position is.....and its not just nose tackle...you can go down a list of positions...Kelden Joseph was never a SB winning player....Kenneth Murray was never going to bea SB winning linebacker......you don't need all pro players but you need football players.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Cowboys lack of playoff success goes back to Aikman. We always have a excuse for why that is....right now its Dak can't "kick it up a notch", before that it was Romo "chokes in big moments"....before that it was Aikman was old....these excuses are getting tired. I'm not sure how you guys can pretend like the problem isn't the guy in the booth. We can sit here and say Romo and Dak weren't good enough to win.....fair. But your GM thought Trysten Hill and Mazi Smith were key pieces to winning....in a league where Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, Aaron Donald and Vita Vea are SB winners....your GM looked at Mazi Smith and Trysten Hill and thought those were pieces to winning. As important as that position is.....and its not just nose tackle...you can go down a list of positions...Kelden Joseph was never a SB winning player....Kenneth Murray was never going to bea SB winning linebacker......you don't need all pro players but you need football players.

Period after Super Bowl XXX was the decline of the team of the 90's. Bound to happen, most teams don't become Dynasties after a Superbowl. But really it is a decline, that eventually became to the Cowboys being a bad team, which is different from being a Mediocre team. The Age of Mediocrity really is the combined time of the last two quarterbacks. It's teams where you can consistently get to the playoffs, but never have the leadership, focus, and heart needed to win a championship.

We're basically at a point where you can get enough talent to get through a regular season, look good at it. Team had depth issues. Team has leadership issues come playoff time, since there is nobody there that gets the team focused and prepared for that environment that is different than the regular season. Sadly, if the puppet coaches can't lead, it has to come through the players at key positions. If the players at those key positions haven't rallied those around them for a decade, what is the likelihood you have the right guy at that position? That's my opinion of the matter, a bit grim, but the only one I can have if I know the Owner/GM is pure junk.

 

[GINeric]

If you have coaches who aren't leaders, where do you get leadership required to make a run in the playoffs? Sad truth is, it is going to have to fall upon the quarterback, which is asking a lot. A 2-5 record in the playoff, a reputation for having a dear caught in the headlights of a truck expression playing in the big game, when other teams have kicked it up a notch, doesn't exactly make me think that next attempt at the playoff is going to be any better. Why keep trying with the same guy, if the results don't seem to improve? If leadership doesn't come from the coaches, then you need someone who is one hell on the field leader, not a locker room leader.

I understand what you're saying, but it still doesn't make sense to hold the success or failure against one player in a game that consists of a 53 man team and multiple coaches.

Because if thats the case, Matthew Stafford looks really bad as a quarterback for 12 years until he got with a greatly built Rams team.

Its also looks bad that quarterbacks like Kaepernick got to a Superbowl and Josh Allen hasn't and people will say Allen is better than Kaepernick.

It looks bad when quarterbacks like Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Foles, etc can win Superbowls and quarterbacks much better than them can't.


Again, this is only according to what you stated.

 

[Yobwocs]

Got EM!

Lamb was a highly decorated college player.

Before Amari got to Dallas....

Raiders

6

22

280

12.7

1

46.7

Cowboys

9

53

725

13.7

6

80.6

Before Randall Cobb got here

2018

Green Bay Packers

9

38

383

10.1

2

2019

Dallas Cowboys

15

55

828

15.1

3

Cedric Wilson with Dallas vs leaving Dallas

2021

Cowboys

16

45

602

13.4

6

2022

Dolphins

15

12

136

11.3

0

Before Pickens got here.....

2024

Pittsburgh Steelers

14

59

900

15.2

3

2025

Dallas Cowboys

17

93

1,429

15.4

9

It is what it is.....

Where's the James Woods gif from Ghosts of Mississippi? The one where his lawyer totally ripped apart the witness against him and he laughs maniacally?


This is total ownage. OGSixShooter is a very frustrated guy.... and now he's been totally owned.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I understand what you're saying, but it still doesn't make sense to hold the success or failure against one player in a game that consists of a 53 man team and multiple coaches.

Who is doing that? I do realize that the cowboys have holes at other places, but I also realize that will always be the case here in Dallas, since the GM is never going to get fired. They can draft talent, and the Cowboys had, had talent during the past two decades, at various points of time, but they don't plan for depth. That was the difference between the teams Romo led and Eli Manning led for instance. Is that ever going to change? Are we ever going to have a Head Coach who isn't a puppet again, who will prepare his team for the playoff, keep them focused, when things start to go wrong, calm the players and get them back on track?

Various positions on the team, can have on the field leadership. Quarterback is a leadership position, and if the coaches fail to do their job, unfortunately it falls on the team leaders to lead on the field. If the current on the field leaders of the team haven't produced for a decade, why should I think they are going to produce this year?

Because if thats the case, Matthew Stafford looks really bad as a quarterback for 12 years until he got with a greatly built Rams team.

Am I saying that Dak couldn't go to another team that is better run than the Cowboys and win, where he has less responsibilities? I'm expressing my doubts that he can win in the current system that he is in, and my concerns are not what is best for Dak but what is best for the team, find someone at his position who is a better on the field leader. A Decade and all we have is 2-5, it is like Parcels says, at the end of the day you are what your record says you are.

Its also looks bad that quarterbacks like Kaepernick got to a Superbowl and Josh Allen hasn't and people will say Allen is better than Kaepernick.

Kaepernick was in a system that could get him to a superbowl, not under a puppet coaching staff. When Aikman played under Switzer, he said he had to take over some of the duties that used to be Jimmie's and be the bad guy when he was used to playing the good cop.

It looks bad when quarterbacks like Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Foles, etc can win Superbowls and quarterbacks much better than them can't.

Again, this is only according to what you stated.

No it is not according to what I stated. It is the thing you love to constantly bring up, like people are hearing it for the first time. The difference is: those teams were build to win with quarterbacks like those. I'm not sure that Dak is better than Foles either as opposed to the other two. I'm not saying that if you stuck Dak on a well run organization like the Ravens had been during his time here, that he couldn't find success. I'm saying that after a decade here, the coaching isn't going to change, the depth of the team isn't going to change, since the cowboys got talent but not depth usually. Dak is a good regular season quarterback, but a terrible playoffs quarterback who has been just as responsible for making mistakes during the playoffs as his teammates have. The cowboys never kick it up a notch and play playoff football. We don't have on the field leaders who calm the troops and get them back on the page. After a decade here, it is pretty obvious that he does not get mad if things are going wrong in a big playoff game, and gets the people he is leading back on the same page and focused. Instead, he make mistakes himself during those games and is as flustered as the people around him.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Yep, Brady was smart going to a Super Bowl ready team. But I guess to some it was all him. He played all the offensive positions and some of the defensive ones as well.

And yet they didn't win it the year before he arrived.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Where's the James Woods gif from Ghosts of Mississippi? The one where his lawyer totally ripped apart the witness against him and he laughs maniacally?


This is total ownage. OGSixShooter is a very frustrated guy.... and now he's been totally owned.

By cherry-picked stats? Dude....

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

If you have coaches who aren't leaders, where do you get leadership required to make a run in the playoffs? Sad truth is, it is going to have to fall upon the quarterback, which is asking a lot. A 2-5 record in the playoff, a reputation for having a dear caught in the headlights of a truck expression playing in the big game, when other teams have kicked it up a notch, doesn't exactly make me think that next attempt at the playoff is going to be any better. Why keep trying with the same guy, if the results don't seem to improve? If leadership doesn't come from the coaches, then you need someone who is one hell on the field leader, not a locker room leader.

The likely suspects call Dak a GREAT leader. LEADERSHIP! Excvept, I've never seen Dak get in anyone's face like Troy and Brady did. Sometimes it takes more than sky pointing and new nikes to "inspire" people.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

The likely suspects call Dak a GREAT leader. LEADERSHIP! Excvept, I've never seen Dak get in anyone's face like Troy and Brady did. Sometimes it takes more than sky pointing and new nikes to "inspire" people.

Its hard to be that kind of leader, and a lot to ask from any quarterback, IMO. Watching a documentary about Aikman talking about Barry Switzer, Aikman said he had to become the Bad Cop in the leadership position that used to be Jimmy's Job, since Switzer didn't do it. Watching and remembering footage from back then, you used to see several people pick up the mantle and get everyone on the same page during critical parts of games, from Michael Irving, to Charles Haley. That team was focused on winning and maybe it got us one more superbowl, the on the field leadership. That on the field leadership is something hard to find, but seems to me at this point the only way for the team to win in the playoffs if they coaches aren't do their jobs. Like I said a grim analysis by me, since drafting people with those traits probably is a good strategy for building a team, but well the front office... But still A decade should be long enough to judge if someone has that quality or not.

 

[Vtwin]

Amari Cooper had his best two year run based on total yards and yrds/rec with Cleveland. He had also been an all-pro, pro-bowler and rookie of the year before coming to Dallas.

Pickens had his best year in yrds/rec in Pittsburgh. His yrds/rec last year in Dallas was the same as two of his three years in Pittsburgh. His highest total yardage was with Dallas but by virtue of a significant increase in targets.

It's just silly to use Cobb as an example, coming off an injury in his 9th year and only using one season in the comparison. Cobb was a probowl player before coming to Dallas.

Cedric Wilson? lol. This is just beyond silly.

Dak got the same relative production from Pickens as a washed up Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, Mason Rudolph, Kenny Pickett and Mitchell Trubisky did.

 

[Vtwin]

The likely suspects call Dak a GREAT leader. LEADERSHIP! Excvept, I've never seen Dak get in anyone's face like Troy and Brady did. Sometimes it takes more than sky pointing and new nikes to "inspire" people.

I guarantee you Dak has an inspirational poster hanging in his locker. Probably two.

Dak leads like a corporate middle manager fresh out of the three day "management retreat".

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Its hard to be that kind of leader, and a lot to ask from any quarterback, IMO. Watching a documentary about Aikman talking about Barry Switzer, Aikman said he had to become the Bad Cop in the leadership position that used to be Jimmy's Job, since Switzer didn't do it. Watching and remembering footage from back then, you used to see several people pick up the mantle and get everyone on the same page during critical parts of games, from Michael Irving, to Charles Haley. That team was focused on winning and maybe it got us one more superbowl, the on the field leadership. That on the field leadership is something hard to find, but seems to me at this point the only way for the team to win in the playoffs if they coaches aren't do their jobs. Like I said a grim analysis by me, since drafting people with those traits probably is a good strategy for building a team, but well the front office... But still A decade should be long enough to judge if someone has that quality or not.

I fully agree with you. I did lazily choose the most obvious examples.

I should have mentioned I don't expect Dak to be at that level. I didn't for Romo either. I think you can work hard, do your job, show up everyday and be just fine. You don't get "great leader" by defult just for being QB.

 

[5Stars]

So rock only lies when he doesn’t agree with you. Otherwise you’re all over his junk. I don’t think he’s interested in you, find your boyfriend somewhere else.

Since you are fairly new here and don't know any better, you go ahead and stick up for Rockport, but just remember this, he will turn on YOU in the blink of an eye. You hang with trash, you become trash, it's up to you. FYI

 

[Rockport]

Got EM!

Lamb was a highly decorated college player.

Before Amari got to Dallas....

Raiders

6

22

280

12.7

1

46.7

Cowboys

9

53

725

13.7

6

80.6

Before Randall Cobb got here

2018

Green Bay Packers

9

38

383

10.1

2

2019

Dallas Cowboys

15

55

828

15.1

3

Cedric Wilson with Dallas vs leaving Dallas

2021

Cowboys

16

45

602

13.4

6

2022

Dolphins

15

12

136

11.3

0

Before Pickens got here.....

2024

Pittsburgh Steelers

14

59

900

15.2

3

2025

Dallas Cowboys

17

93

1,429

15.4

9

It is what it is.....

That’s what a great QB will do.

 

[Rockport]

Since you are fairly new here and don't know any better, you go ahead and stick up for Rockport, but just remember this, he will turn on YOU in the blink of an eye. You hang with trash, you become trash, it's up to you. FYI

Nah, he’s one of the good ones here unlike yourself some bitter old man.

 

[5Stars]

Nah, he’s one of the good ones here unlike yourself some bitter old man.

It's just a matter of time, you are a schizaroid. Now, get off your lazy butt and go to Church, richard head!