Dak Attack gives best advice on Cowboys Oline after Week 5

[gtb1943]

But of those 25 plays how many were actually contested plays for Guyton? I'm torn on being optimistic vs pessimistic on his performance Sunday. 1V1 he seemed to get beat too often and of those 25 plays one 1 special teams, 1 was a penalty, they gave him some help on that side despite not going against Watt, and a hand full of snaps he didnt have to really do anything. Whats a shame to me is when he went down with the injury. It seems like he was really finding his groove right before he went down. I don't think the calls to bench him are valid, but we need to see him play better if this team is going to be a serious contender in a few months.

Play 1 - Pass play - He gets a chip from the TE and a bad read by the DE who played run first
Play 2 - Pass play - Good rep from Guyton
Play 3 - Run play - Good rep from Guyton
Play 4 - WR Screen - Guyton pulls but no one is there for him to block
Play 5 - pass play - beat bad by #51 on an inside swim move
Play 6 - FG Attempt
Play 7 - Penalty on Guyton
Play 8 - Quick pass in the flat - Good rep by Guyton
Play 9 - Pass play - Good rep by Guyton (51 tried that inside move again but Guyton got hands on him before he could hit the swim)
Play 10 - Pass play - Guyton beat inside (This was the Dak grounding penalty play)
Play 11 - Run play - Good rep from Guyton (Down block)
Play 12 - End Around - Guyton gets beat to the outside (Although it is a tough block with how far out #51 was, Lamb also should have redirected #51 in and barely touched him)
Play 13 - Pass play - Good rep from Guyton, he got a chip from the TE too
Play 14 - Pass play - Guyton beat with a simple outside rip move
Play 15 - WR screen - Guyton whiffs on a chop block, I will give him credit on a nice recovery to grab the ankle of the defender without drawing the flag
Play 16 - Run play - No impact on the play from Guyton, no one for him to block
Play 17 - Screen - Good rep from Guyton, gets #98 on the ground
Play 18 - Run play - Guyton pulls - Good rep from Guyton, but he does get pancaked by #50 (This may be something to watch when he pulls, he really doesnt seem too comfortable on the move yet)
Play 19 - Pass play - Decent rep by Guyton - He does give up the sack, but I think that one is mostly on Dak. This one is iffy, just depends how harsh someone wants to grade it
Play 20 - Run play - Good rep by Guyton
Play 21 - Pass play - Good rep by Guyton
Play 22 - Run play - Good rep by Guyton - If I'm being picky though he does need to work on those 2nd level blocks
Play 23 - Pass play - Good rep by Guyton
Play 24 - Run play - Good rep by Guyton
Play 25 -Pass play - Decent rep - gets beat on the 2nd move

I feel like I'm missing one in here as I dont think the penalty counts as a snap does it?

so that is five bad plays our of 25
20% is way too much

At this rate he would have ten bad plays out of 50

that is not acceptable

 

[CowboysRule]

Reality is the growth for guyton and beebee will materialize next year with some good offseason training and a good training camp. The sad thing is steele hasn't bounced back to pre-injury form and martin is on a sharp decline.

Steele is worrisome. Someone suggested moving Smith to LT permanently and have Guyton take over at RT after this season and then just getting a new guard. That'd probably be easier in the long run since Guyton was a RT in college.

 

[75boyz]

Reality is the growth for guyton and beebee will materialize next year with some good offseason training and a good training camp. The sad thing is steele hasn't bounced back to pre-injury form and martin is on a sharp decline.

Weird, cuz I thought this past game for once did show pre injury Steele's power run blocking ability along with an improved Zack's combo blocks as a duo. Steele is still an avg pass blocker at best. Zack is declining but hasn't fallen off a cliff.

I'm not a dinosaur Solari supporter so I think there's some merit to his failures as a run game scheme architect and poor modern day fundamentals teacher.

It's the first game the oline has produced any semblance of an effective run game to me.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Three turnovers in one game is way too many. or is it fine since it is Dak?

No it’s not fine. But is this what Dak does? Does he throw 3 turnovers every game? If he did I’d agree. Bust this seems like the anomaly.

 

[charron]

Weird, cuz I thought this past game for once did show pre injury Steele's power run blocking ability along with an improved Zack's combo blocks as a duo. Steele is still an avg pass blocker at best. Zack is declining but hasn't fallen off a cliff.

I'm not a dinosaur Solari supporter so I think there's some merit to his failures as a run game scheme architect and poor modern day fundamentals teacher.

It's the first game the oline has produced any semblance of an effective run game to me.

Just my 2 cents.

The run game looked about as good as they have been. Rico has been averaging 4 yards a carry most of the year through 5 games. The difference is he got the bulk of the carries which helped the run game look better overall. Blocking is probably getting a bit better too. The blocking scheme does these guys no favors either.

 

[charron]

Steele is worrisome. Someone suggested moving Smith to LT permanently and have Guyton take over at RT after this season and then just getting a new guard. That'd probably be easier in the long run since Guyton was a RT in college.

IMHO that would have set Guyton up for success this year in a much better way. But Bass didn't look so hot at guard last week, hopefully he looks better this week.

 

[OGSixshooter]

How about some scrutiny, on the winning touchdown and the fumble recovery?

How much skill does it take to dive on a ball? JFC…why not lower the bar to hell? LOL

 

[Whirlwin]

How much skill does it take to dive on a ball? JFC…why not lower the bar to hell? LOL

It doesn’t take skill it takes courage, do you know anything about that?

 

[cowboyed]

How much skill does it take to dive on a ball? JFC…why not lower the bar to hell? LOL

In all fairness it is not just about skill, but being physically capable of protecting or keeping the recovered ball. He reacted quickly knowing he was going into the human meat grinder.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Good stuff, TP! Thanks for sharing. I'm assuming you have the All-22? Yes, the penalty play does not count.

Yes sir, got it for the next gen stats package, but ended up keeping it for how easy they've made it to watch games back. I've probably watched more football this year than I have in the last five combined lol.

so that is five bad plays our of 25
20% is way too much

At this rate he would have ten bad plays out of 50

that is not acceptable

Yeah, the good news is the skill set is there, but the consistency simply isn't where it needs to be yet.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Yes sir, got it for the next gen stats package, but ended up keeping it for how easy they've made it to watch games back. I've probably watched more football this year than I have in the last five combined lol.

Yeah, the good news is the skill set is there, but the consistency simply isn't where it needs to be yet.

Awesome!

Do you have a link to that Next Gen Stats membership site?

 

[thunderpimp91]

Awesome!

Do you have a link to that Next Gen Stats membership site?

Yeah I went ahead and got the NFL+ premium membership for $100 for the year. I honestly don't care too much for the next gen section though, and wouldn't recommend anyone spend the money if that's what they are wanting access to. I really like the charts they provide that shows the routes receivers ran, carries the RBs had, etc. but they only do it for a few players each week. Some of the team stats they have are nice to see, but the individual player metrics, which I think is what most people pay for just seems like it needs another year for them to figure out.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

IKR?!?!!? seems like yesterday I was counting the minutes for the season to start...now we are staring down the halfway point of the season. it's craxzy how fast this season is going...probably a testament to my age (the older you get the faster time moves).

Do you remember the Elmer Fudd Bugs Bunny calendars? The pages would turn slow at first then really fast. It feels like that.

 

[Streifenkarl]

We just need to RELAX and give our Oline rookies time to gel to the speed and strength of the NFL. Our Oline will get better.

What say you?

I've been saying exactly this since the draft. I'm convinced these guys were the right choice and will become a great o line.

I am not even giving up on Steele at this point.

 

[plasticman]

Of course Guyton looks lost at times. He's supposed to. He's a rookie that played two seasons at Oklahoma and was drafted as a junior. He's playing LT when after playing RT as a college player.

How does he get better? Experience. There are going to be growing pains that will only last longer if he is benched.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Yeah I went ahead and got the NFL+ premium membership for $100 for the year. I honestly don't care too much for the next gen section though, and wouldn't recommend anyone spend the money if that's what they are wanting access to. I really like the charts they provide that shows the routes receivers ran, carries the RBs had, etc. but they only do it for a few players each week. Some of the team stats they have are nice to see, but the individual player metrics, which I think is what most people pay for just seems like it needs another year for them to figure out.

Thanks for the info, TP!

 

[CowboyFrog]

Coach Jones already said this is not gonna happen on his weekly coach radio show.

 

[Creeper]

Absolutely, the OLINE needs time to gel together. But Guyton and Beebe both need to adjust to the speed of NFL defenders. Bass too. Beebe is at least already strong enough to play in the NFL. Guyton I think needs to get stronger in the upper body.

 

[kskboys]

Guyton looks lost out there too often. Throwing him out there to sink or swim might not be the best strategy. I'm not sure he's mentally prepared to handle that kind of challenge.

Bebee is starting to gel, but he's got all-pros on either side of him, unless Tyler S is at LT.

Guyton was available to us at our spot simply because he was very raw coming in. As usual, we had no alternative plan if he wasn't ready to play.

 

[kskboys]

Guyton is getting beat to the inside way too much. Getting beat isn't good, but at least if he gets beat wide Dak has room to move up in the pocket try to avoid the sack.

Either way, this feels like a classic example of him starting because where they drafted him instead of getting the best 5 players on the field.

Saddest part is that w/ our horrific inability to evaluate/acquire players, he might be one of the best 5.