Dak beat GB in post-season, Dallas’s defense lost it

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Hawk, you know as well that there are only a handful of truly elite QBs in this entire league that actually carry the full load, less now with Brees retiring.
Dak is just OK, just like most of the QBs in this league.
I find it amusingly odd how some extremists like the OP insist on trying to convince everyone that knows anything about talent, that average or even just good enough should somehow be elevated to elite status.
Dak is a decent QB, the normal for most teams, nothing more, nothing less.

there are only 2 or 3 in any given year, the rest are good, and it just depends on how good and what they mean to the success of a team....people consider Rodgers elite, but he hasn't taken his team to the superbowl in 10 years. neither did brees. Brady is the only one who has been to the superbowl consistently....outside of those now Mahomes is considered Elite.

what everyone is looking for is to be competitive. give the team a competitive chance. That's what Dak provides to the cowboys as a top 10 QB...now, can we replace Dak with Watson? yes, perhaps, but given the biggest complained of everyone is the money, what will people say about Watson and his 40M contract? specially that he has had two 4 win seasons. outside of the top 2, maybe 3 elite, the rest of the top 10 can in one shape or form be replaced by one another, bu the fact is that the market for top 10 QBs is where it is, 35-40M....with a few of them coming to the end of their contracts by 2022 and 2023...

and the other factor is assuming we lose Dak....ok...then who is the replacement that can keep the team competitive. surely not Dalton....Draft? where 4 out of 5 QBs fail in the NFL.....and yes every year, every draft, everyone swears by this QB and that QB.....

so you don't want Dak? what's your plan? and please don't be like some who reach deep in their rear end pulling some highly improbable and impractical solution...and what ever that you do, then you have to logically be able to justify why its better....

otherwise if you don't have a solution, you are doing nothing but complaining......

 

[robertfchew]

Dude stop your defending Dak posts all while looking up at your ceiling smiling at your Dak poster. It's become so pathetic and sad at this point that perhaps you should seek counseling or a 12-step Dak detox program.


Dallas Cowboys Regular Season Record with Dak Prescott as the starting QB (4-1/3 years): 42 Wins 27 Losses .609 Win %

Dallas Cowboys Postseason Record with Dak Prescott as the starting QB (4-1/3 years): 1 Win 2 Losses (ZERO Championship Game Appearances)



Buffalo Bills Regular Season Record with Josh Allen as the starting QB (3 years; 44 of 48 games): 28 Wins 16 Losses .636 Win %

Buffalo Bills Postseason Record with Josh Allen as the starting QB (3 years): 2 Wins 1 Loss (1 Championship Game Appearances)



So in a nutshell Josh Allen has a better win %, won more playoff games, and been to more Championship games in 3 years than Dak has in his 4-1/3 years.......and Dallas had better talent but remind me again how Dak is just such a great QB.

Josh allen was picked 7th dak was picked 135th one guy should already have a super bowl the other was meant to be a backup. You really cant compare them until they both have massive extensions.

 

[Diehardblues]

Josh allen was picked 7th dak was picked 135th one guy should already have a super bowl the other was meant to be a backup. You really cant compare them until they both have massive extensions.

Maybe not but I’d take Allen .

 

[Diehardblues]

there are only 2 or 3 in any given year, the rest are good, and it just depends on how good and what they mean to the success of a team....people consider Rodgers elite, but he hasn't taken his team to the superbowl in 10 years. neither did brees. Brady is the only one who has been to the superbowl consistently....outside of those now Mahomes is considered Elite.

what everyone is looking for is to be competitive. give the team a competitive chance. That's what Dak provides to the cowboys as a top 10 QB...now, can we replace Dak with Watson? yes, perhaps, but given the biggest complained of everyone is the money, what will people say about Watson and his 40M contract? specially that he has had two 4 win seasons. outside of the top 2, maybe 3 elite, the rest of the top 10 can in one shape or form be replaced by one another, bu the fact is that the market for top 10 QBs is where it is, 35-40M....with a few of them coming to the end of their contracts by 2022 and 2023...

and the other factor is assuming we lose Dak....ok...then who is the replacement that can keep the team competitive. surely not Dalton....Draft? where 4 out of 5 QBs fail in the NFL.....and yes every year, every draft, everyone swears by this QB and that QB.....

so you don't want Dak? what's your plan? and please don't be like some who reach deep in their rear end pulling some highly improbable and impractical solution...and what ever that you do, then you have to logically be able to justify why its better....

otherwise if you don't have a solution, you are doing nothing but complaining......

In bold—I haven’t read all of this but we really don’t need to provide solutions to offer our diagnosis.

We can know something needs repair without knowing how to fix it.

And I’m one who supports resigning Dak.

 

[5Stars]

Hmm, I see Dak's PR Department is working overtime again. (i wonder how much they get paid?) Every day and night...12/7.

I even bet they saw Dak play the piano.

 

[tyke1doe]

so you think Brady would have won 3 superbowls instead of 6? yes, no way to prove, but it speaks about your opinion on coaches ability to get his team to the superbowl and win the superbowl given Brady has been to 9 and won 6. the challenge is the its not just about a QBs ability and having sole responsibility for success or failure of a team. its the TEAM and the organization, which includes the coaches and their ability to manage properly and a GMs ability to build a team that can compete and win a superbowl....Hypothetical yes, but with a purpose.........

That was an example. That was not my opinion. I just threw that out there. I really don't even care to entertain the hypothetical because:

1. Brady wasn't on the market when Garrett and company was here
2. Garrett and company are no longer here

So, to me, it's a fruitless and empty discussion. Shrug.

 

[tyke1doe]

In bold—I haven’t read all of this but we really don’t need to provide solutions to offer our diagnosis.

We can know something needs repair without knowing how to fix it.

And I’m one who supports resigning Dak.

Great point!

And that's why we hire specialists. If my engine is jerking, I definitely know something is wrong, but I spend money on a specialist because I surely don't know how to fix it.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That was an example. That was not my opinion. I just threw that out there. I really don't even care to entertain the hypothetical because:

1. Brady wasn't on the market when Garrett and company was here
2. Garrett and company are no longer here

So, to me, it's a fruitless and empty discussion. Shrug.

you are avoiding....and read my response again. that hypothetical answer is a way to determine how good garrett and moore are releatively. you want to continue to blame dak. please do. you want not to consider a hypothetical question because it will corner your logic. please don't respond. but you already have, that the blame for what we have gone through the pat 5 years is not Dak and there are many factors that have had a bigger impact to the final outxome....and the 20 years before that with similar failures including under garrett.....

but go ahead, blame dak. please do.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

the biggest reason some people dislike dak is the nauseating crap over and over about his stats, this stats that, which leads to no wins. "He's the best quarterback ever, better than Rodgers, the Manning brothers, Troy, and well every quarterback to ever play" They continue to blow this up in their tiny minds, not one day but every day. My posts were at first sarcasm but now I can not stand Dak because of these posters.

I don't dislike Dak; I don't know if he really wants to be here though. But I can agree with the sentiment that all the propaganda that the dak-a-holics spread on here in an attempt to get people to like him is what gives him more negative responses. People hate to be brainwashed in such a blatant way Dak would get much less criticism on here I think if people could own up that when he has a bad outing, he has a bad outing. But instead after a bad showing, you get all this propaganda on why dak is the greatest, and then that crowd throws other peoples favorite players under the bus to shift the blame, drawing negative responses to Dak from those fans as well.

 

[Aviano90]

I don't dislike Dak; I don't know if he really wants to be here though. But I can agree with the sentiment that all the propaganda that the dak-a-holics spread on here in an attempt to get people to like him is what gives him more negative responses. People hate to be brainwashed in such a blatant way Dak would get much less criticism on here I think if people could own up that when he has a bad outing, he has a bad outing. But instead after a bad showing, you get all this propaganda on why dak is the greatest, and then that crowd throws other peoples favorite players under the bus to shift the blame, drawing negative responses to Dak from those fans as well.

People pump Dak up for the same reason Romo was pumped up and compared to QBs like Brady and Manning during his playing days. It is to contrast the claims from the haters that he is garbage.

The problem with Romo fans is they took it to a whole new level after he was benched and tried to make him out to be some all time great worthy of the hall of fame. Hopefully Dak fans don’t do the same.

But I agree a bad outing should be called a bad outing. The same thing in reverse, a good outing should be called a good outing, but his haters don’t do that either. They didn’t do it for Romo either.

 

[Whirlwin]

So continue to kick money down the road on older players to make cap room now? That approach has failed Dallas repeatedly. As for "a little extra money means nothing in the long run".....Dak would count at least $25-$30M against the cap depending on a new contract structure whereas a rookie QB taken in the #6-#10 range of the 1st round would count about $5M against the cap.....so that extra $20-$30M would go a long way to improving the team.

Obviously you didn’t read what I said correctly. Restructuring is not kicking money down the road

 

[Philmonroe]

Josh allen was picked 7th dak was picked 135th one guy should already have a super bowl the other was meant to be a backup. You really cant compare them until they both have massive extensions.

What is this groupie bs? After the draft and they've both been starting for years this stupid logic doesn't matter anymore. Stop it

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Seattle - 3rd and 14 at seattle 26, 14 seconds to go!!!!
Cleveland - 1st and goal on the 8, with 1:42 to go score is 49-38. Dallas had 1 time out....this after cowboys made it 42-38, but defense gave up a 50 yard run to a freaking WR......with 3:42 to go....a freaking WR for 50 yards rushing TD...I mean come on man!!!

the other 2 interceptions were in the middle of the game....

I know you are going to complain why he threw interceptions in the middle of the game. then I will ask you to show me a QB that has never thrown an interception...and then I hear silence.....

your expectations of Dak is perfection. anything less than 100% completion you will complain. Anything less than 152 passer rating, you will complain. anything less than 400 yards passing, you will complain. anything less than offense scoring on every possession, you will complain, anything less than 5 TD passes per game, you will complain. defense giving up 300 yards rushing, you will blame dak, defense giving up 36 pts, you will blame dak..

so why all the spinning, just blame him, say I just want to blame him and be done with it....

How many accounts does this weirdo have? I know of at least 3. He spends all day everyday defending his favorite players, on multiple accounts. Cringe. I like Dak, but you make the rest of us that support him look bad. Stop being obsessed.

 

[tyke1doe]

you are avoiding....and read my response again. that hypothetical answer is a way to determine how good garrett and moore are releatively. you want to continue to blame dak. please do. you want not to consider a hypothetical question because it will corner your logic. please don't respond. but you already have, that the blame for what we have gone through the pat 5 years is not Dak and there are many factors that have had a bigger impact to the final outxome....and the 20 years before that with similar failures including under garrett.....

but go ahead, blame dak. please do.

Corner my logic? What logic did I propose? What proposition did I make?

However, your proposition defies logic. You can't determine ANYTHING from a hypothetical.

i.e., determine if the Cowboys would have defeated the Atlanta Falcons if they had beaten Green Bay in 2016.

How do you determine this? You can't. But you can offer empty blather that makes you feel good that you've approximated what sounds like a "reasonable" argument.

It's pointless to continue this. But, hey, if you think hypotheticals prove points, be my guess. I'll always come back with ... okay, prove it.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How many accounts does this weirdo have? I know of at least 3. He spends all day everyday defending his favorite players, on multiple accounts. Cringe. I like Dak, but you make the rest of us that support him look bad. Stop being obsessed.

WOW, conspiracy theorist..... I have one account. and I debunk bullshiet.....you don't like me calling your bullshiet, then don't post bullshiet

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Corner my logic? What logic did I propose? What proposition did I make?

However, your proposition defies logic. You can't determine ANYTHING from a hypothetical.

i.e., determine if the Cowboys would have defeated the Atlanta Falcons if they had beaten Green Bay in 2016.

How do you determine this? You can't. But you can offer empty blather that makes you feel good that you've approximated what sounds like a "reasonable" argument.

It's pointless to continue this. But, hey, if you think hypotheticals prove points, be my guess. I'll always come back with ... okay, prove it.

spin away....

like I said, you already answered my question.

 

[tyke1doe]

spin away....

like I said, you already answered my question.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Fun Fact is that Romo has never thrown for 300 yards in a playoff game

 

[Captain-Crash]

I don't dislike Dak; I don't know if he really wants to be here though. But I can agree with the sentiment that all the propaganda that the dak-a-holics spread on here in an attempt to get people to like him is what gives him more negative responses. People hate to be brainwashed in such a blatant way Dak would get much less criticism on here I think if people could own up that when he has a bad outing, he has a bad outing. But instead after a bad showing, you get all this propaganda on why dak is the greatest, and then that crowd throws other peoples favorite players under the bus to shift the blame, drawing negative responses to Dak from those fans as well.