Dak is 9th in NFL in Total QBR

[mattjames2010]

Go ahead and say that you think Dallas would be better with Cooper Rush than Dak. Go ahead and say it, and admit that you don't know what you're talking about.

This line of argument is TOTAL NONSENSE. They won despite him, with a terrible offense.

I mean, our backup QB went 4-1. It's not about if Rush is better than Prescott, he's not, it's about the two QBs that were referenced elevating their team to the point they were actually able to get to a Super Bowl. Both did it in their second year starting in the league. Prescott is in his 8th year and can't get out of the div round, and has yet to elevate his game in the post-season.

Dak is just not that dude. He doesn't elevate the team.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I mean, our backup QB went 4-1. It's not about if Rush is better than Prescott, he's not, it's about the two QBs that were referenced elevating their team to the point they were actually able to get to a Super Bowl. Both did it in their second year starting in the league. Prescott is in his 8th year and can't get out of the div round, and has yet to elevate his game in the post-season.

Dak is just not that dude. He doesn't elevate the team.

Blah blah blah

Why is just getting to the Super Bowl some kind of achievement?

Name 5 QBs who elevate their team. The idea that Jalen Hurts does that is laughable.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

First Garrett- I do say he is just a clapper. Still one of these.
Second Dez
Third Kellen Moore
Fourth Defense
Fifth Zeke
Sixth scapegoat is our TE's

I'm not saying Dak played great. However, it does bear mentioning that the tight ends have dropped several passes in the redzone. They dropped two in the Giants game, for example. Not that it mattered much given the score, but it's a point worth mentioning.

 

[mattjames2010]

Blah blah blah

Why is just getting to the Super Bowl some kind of achievement?

Name 5 QBs who elevate their team. The idea that Jalen Hurts does that is laughable.

Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Tua, and Hurts. Hell even Lawrence has elevated the Jags.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Tua, and Hurts. Hell even Lawrence has elevated the Jags.

LMAO at Tua and Lawrence.

Tua hasn't been to the playoffs, and Lawrence was awful. That's not even mentioning the systems that Tua and Hurts play in.

What a joke people like you are with your dumb little platitudes.

 

[PlantMySeed]

I'm not saying Dak played great. However, it does bear mentioning that the tight ends have dropped several passes in the redzone. They dropped two in the Giants game, for example. Not that it mattered much given the score, but it's a point worth mentioning.

It is. So is Elliot facing 8 man boxes the majority of the time. I'm not saying Dak is a bad quarterback, I am saying I don't think he will be the reason the team wins.

 

[Nav22]

It’s also pretty apparent that the QBR stat has nothing in it that accounts for how the game is going. If the defense is totally dominating a game and scoring points, the QB’s job gets a lot easier. I mean, let’s keep it real… In week one, the offense’s only the job was to not to turn the ball over and keep the clock moving. Easier to do with such a lead…easy to rank high in certain so-called ‘’metrics”

Clown take.

Our offense scored 27 points in 7 drives with Dak in Week 1.

That's elite points/drive production that would literally would lead the NFL by a mile.

 

[mattjames2010]

LMAO at Tua and Lawrence.

Tua hasn't been to the playoffs, and Lawrence was awful. That's not even mentioning the systems that Tua and Hurts play in.

What a joke people like you are with your dumb little platitudes.

Tua's issues are injuries. Trevor Lawrence brought the Jags out of the gutter and got them to the playoffs with a far less talented team than what Dak is surrounded with. Remember what the topic is about.

Keep goal post moving.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

mostly

Okay. Interesting opinion.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Tua's issues are injuries. Trevor Lawrence brought the Jags out of the gutter and got them to the playoffs with a far less talented team than what Dak is surrounded with. Remember what the topic is about.

Keep goal post moving.

This is nonsense.

 

[DanTanna]

Andy Dalton II

 

[Nav22]

Tua's issues are injuries. Trevor Lawrence brought the Jags out of the gutter and got them to the playoffs with a far less talented team than what Dak is surrounded with. Remember what the topic is about.

Keep goal post moving.

Poor Trevor.

26th in Total QBR.

And he only has Travis Etienne, Calvin Ridley, Christian Kirk and Evan Engram to get the ball to!!!!

"DURRRR NO TALENT AROUND HIM!!!"

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

It is. So is Elliot facing 8 man boxes the majority of the time. I'm not saying Dak is a bad quarterback, I am saying I don't think he will be the reason the team wins.

Perhaps, but I do think he is a good enough QB to be a reason (not the reason) why this team makes the playoffs provided that (as is the case for any QB) his WRs catch the ball. This is an issue that dates back to the Romo days where we had WRs dropping passes frequently. I think we had a WR coach around that time by the name of Dooley who would go on to coach the University of Tennessee. We had horrible receiving then, and it seems that we still have drop issues. That's one area that must be fixed. And it's not like it's terrible throws either. He had a ball early against Arizona in the redzone on a critical 3rd down where he threw a nice pass to Ferguson. If Ferguson were to have caught it, it's at least a first down inside the 5 if not a TD. Instead, it's completely dropped by Ferguson. He had two in week one where it was right in the hands of the TEs, and they dropped it. So, I'm not sure if it's an issue with the WR coach, TE coach, or what, but this is an issue that must be fixed. It cost us against Jacksonville last year when Noah Brown bobbled a perfect ball that was taken for a pick 6. It's going to cost us again this year if our TEs keep dropping passes.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Poor Trevor.

26th in Total QBR.

And he only has Travis Etienne, Calvin Ridley, Christian Kirk and Evan Engram to get the ball to!!!!

"DURRRR NO TALENT AROUND HIM!!!"

And, hilariously, the Jaguars got owned against Houston at home last week.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

LMAO at Tua and Lawrence.

Tua hasn't been to the playoffs, and Lawrence was awful. That's not even mentioning the systems that Tua and Hurts play in.

What a joke people like you are with your dumb little platitudes.

Not only that, but I don't see Tua's targets dropping the ball nearly at the rate that our WRs and tight ends do. I'd imagine Dak would look a bit better if his WRs and TEs (not counting Lamb, though his effort on the jump ball last week was pathetic) could be relied on consistently to catch the ball.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

If he was #1 would you say the same thing?

You might have me confused with a Dakazoid. Regardless, QBR has no bearing on how I view any QB.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Not only that, but I don't see Tua's targets dropping the ball nearly at the rate that our WRs and tight ends do. I'd imagine Dak would look a bit better if his WRs and TEs (not counting Lamb, though his effort on the jump ball last week was pathetic) could be relied on consistently to catch the ball.

Tua can't throw to the far hash. He plays in one of the most effective, QB friendly systems that's ever existed.

He's accurate, but he's not a special talent and isn't at all asked to consistently make difficult throws.

 

[Hadenough]

He shredded an elite defense in Week 2. Zach Wilson doesn't play defense.

Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Tua, and Hurts. Hell even Lawrence has elevated the Jags.

You put any one of those QBs on the Jets and the Jets would be considered a top tier playoff team. You put Dak on the Jets and they are a .500 team.

 

[FVSTONE]

The end is near.

WENTZ 2.0 is never going to get it done. After watching last night's game between the Packers and Lions, I almost imploded when the announcers brought up the Packer and Saint's game and how Love, who isn't that good of a QB was able to bring his team back from a 17 - 0 deficit when he was missing SEVERAL starters on offense and our own Dakota "WENTZ 2.0" Prescot who was going up against a team that is expected to be so bad that they're a 99% lock to draft Caleb Williams with the first pick in the 2024 draft couldn't put his own shorthanded offense on his back and get out of Arizona with a victory. All been hearing is how great WENTZ 2.0's stats are, but against a slug bottom feeder team he once again played down to their level!

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Tua can't throw to the far hash. He plays in one of the most effective, QB friendly systems that's ever existed.

He's accurate, but he's not a special talent and isn't at all asked to consistently make difficult throws.

I agree, but it was impressive what the Dolphins did against Denver. That said, my point is more to do with the fact that the Cowboys and Dak would have more success if the drops weren't as big an issue as it's been.