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JoeKing

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I know you know me well enough to know I aint goin nowhere win or lose. Your cheerleading for Dak to be benched all week was annoying but at least you're here to own it. I told you all week that the not practicing footwork and mechanics and not practicing with his primary receivers was the source of his issues last week.. I think he returned to form this week. This is what I have come to expect from him.. It has been two years since he last played that poorly... And I don't think we're going get another one like last week for another two years..
You were so right, thank goodness. I admit, the way he played against the Broncos freaked me out. I didn't think he could fix it so fast. I'm glad I was wrong because we need him so bad. :thumbup:
 

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I know you know me well enough to know I aint goin nowhere win or lose. Your cheerleading for Dak to be benched all week was annoying but at least you're here to own it. I told you all week that the not practicing footwork and mechanics and not practicing with his primary receivers was the source of his issues last week.. I think he returned to form this week. This is what I have come to expect from him.. It has been two years since he last played that poorly... And I don't think we're going get another one like last week for another two years..

The problem with guys like @JoeKing is that the say they "apologize" or admit they're were wrong but they forget to say they're sorry for acting like ******'s and slandering others. Those are the things people remember, it's not about admitting they're Dak Haters, it's the heinous insults.
 

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There are 4 teams yet to play, but I'd say Dak is currently the leader in the clubhouse for week 10 performances by QBs
:dance:

Big rebound from last week
Ok….so maybe runner-up this week behind Mahomes and his 400+ yards, 5 TDs and no turnovers….on the road vs a playoff team.

Still a great day though for Dak and Dallas
 

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Ok….so maybe runner-up this week behind Mahomes and his 400+ yards, 5 TDs and no turnovers….on the road vs a playoff team.

Still a great day though for Dak and Dallas

I'm not so sure the Raiders are a playoff team.. They seem to be in a freefall.
 

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The problem with guys like @JoeKing is that the say they "apologize" or admit they're were wrong but they forget to say they're sorry for acting like ******'s and slandering others. Those are the things people remember, it's not about admitting they're Dak Haters, it's the heinous insults.
Example? IDK what you're talking about.
 

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What he probably meant was, you'll be back next time. ;)

The problem with guys like @JoeKing is that the say they "apologize" or admit they're were wrong but they forget to say they're sorry for acting like ******'s and slandering others. Those are the things people remember, it's not about admitting they're Dak Haters, it's the heinous insults.

:hammer:
 

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You mean O-lines with injuries and suspensions and a first year starter and a weak link at LG? If you’ve watched the games with anything like a fair eye you will see he hasn’t spent the season sitting in the pocket all day without pressure when teams blitz. He’s getting pressure and getting hit, but calling audibles and making the right reads and decisions. The reads and decisions and execution are how you beat the blitz.

What does capable backups filling in have to do with the contention? So now your arguing the number 1 rated pass and run blocking OL in the league is not that good and we’ve been a mess? I mean you really can’t be arguing this..

Like I said, we have the Denver game as proof that Dak completely sucked when a good defense actually got some pressure. So I actually have watched the games and the “eye test” tells us exactly the opposite you claim.

Now your argument is that the reason Dak is effective at the blitz this year, because he’s making all the right reads and it has nothing to do with the blocking, including Zeke picking up blitzers. But facts are, Dak’s numbers have always been good at the blitz even going back to 2017.
 

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BAHAHAHA!!

Yeah, Dak had ALL DAY on that 2nd TD to Lamb!

Your bottom lip’s quivering. Dak wins. You lose.
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LMAO..

They blitzed him on his first TD pass. He was STARING DOWN Lamb the WHOLE TIME and ZEKE completely walloped the free blitzer and Dak had a whole ocean of space. That play was made by Zeke. And it was a third and 6.

That’s clear as day at 37 seconds.

look at the 4th and 3 at 1:37, a 4th and 3. Dak had like thirty seconds to throw to find a wide open Gallup on a busted coverage.

Every read in this clip is basically a ONE READ throw with all day to throw.

Even the TD your referring to, I’ll give you that, but even then he’s staring down Lamb the whole time, who again, the Atlanta were playing press coverage and the CB STUMBLED on the route, after Dak threw it. And that too happened when the Cowboys were basically blowing them out.

 
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What does capable backups filling in have to do with the contention? So now your arguing the number 1 rated pass and run blocking OL in the league is not that good and we’ve been a mess? I mean you really can’t be arguing this..

Like I said, we have the Denver game as proof that Dak completely sucked when a good defense actually got some pressure. So I actually have watched the games and the “eye test” tells us exactly the opposite you claim.

Now your argument is that the reason Dak is effective at the blitz this year, because he’s making all the right reads and it has nothing to do with the blocking, including Zeke picking up blitzers. But facts are, Dak’s numbers have always been good at the blitz even going back to 2017.
I’m telling you an indecisive QB making bad decisions would make it harder on the O-Line, and a QB doing the right things makes an O-Line’s job easier. Quick reads and decisions take pressure off the line. Quick reads mean fewer sacks. Good reads lead to sustained drives. The Cowboys OLine has been solid, but clearly Williams is a weak link. Biadasz holds his own that’s about his max, and Steele, while a very nice backup, is not a standout as a starter, especially on the left side.
 

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LMAO..

They blitzed him on his first TD pass. He was STARING DOWN Lamb the WHOLE TIME and ZEKE completely walloped the free blitzer and Dak had a whole ocean of space. That play was made by Zeke. And it was a third and 6.

That’s clear as day at 37 seconds.

look at the 4th and 3 at 1:37, a 4th and 3. Dak had like thirty seconds to throw to find a wide open Gallup on a busted coverage.

Every read in this clip is basically a ONE READ throw with all day to throw.


The fact you claim Dak (or any QB) would have 30 seconds to throw crushes any semblance of credibility you might think you have.
 

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I’m telling you an indecisive QB making bad decisions would make it harder on the O-Line, and a QB doing the right things makes an O-Line’s job easier. Quick reads and decisions take pressure off the line. Quick reads mean fewer sacks. Good reads lead to sustained drives. The Cowboys OLine has been solid, but clearly Williams is a weak link. Biadasz holds his own that’s about his max, and Steele, while a very nice backup, is not a standout as a starter, especially on the left side.

So you are saying the number 1 passing and running line in the league is over-rated and not blocking well.

So what happened last week with Dak when the blocking actually was pretty average?
 

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The fact you claim Dak (or any QB) would have 30 seconds to throw crushes any semblance of credibility you might think you have.

The fact you are focusing on what is clear hyperbole by myself to emphasize a point to try and try create some argument about ‘semblance of credibility’ is comical..
 

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So you are saying the number 1 passing and running line in the league is over-rated and not blocking well.

So what happened last week with Dak when the blocking actually was pretty average?
No, I did not say they aren’t blocking well, I said they are helped by a QB that is doing a good job.

You seem to think it has to all be on one or the other, and leave no room for the idea that both the QB and the line are contributing to the success. That’s a nonsensical position for you to take.
 

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No, I did not say they aren’t blocking well, I said they are helped by a QB that is doing a good job.

You seem to think it has to all be on one or the other, and leave no room for the idea that both the QB and the line are contributing to the success. That’s a nonsensical position for you to take.

No, it’s you that is dramatically under-playing the OK to prop up Dak, which is why you constantly avoid the question of what happened to Dak and his ‘reads’ last week when the blocking was average?

Again, you ignore the fact that Dak has always performed ‘well’ against the blitz when he’s sucking.

Teams generally don’t blitz the Cowboys, because they don’t get pressure.

In fact, this is what they were saying after Denver anyways.

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/20...he-blueprint-to-stopping-the-cowboys-offense/

The Broncos came into this game with the sixth-highest blitz rate in the NFL at 33.6 percent, per Pro Football Focus. They blitzed Dallas on just six of 46 dropbacks (13 percent). That’s not only the lowest blitz rate Denver has posted this season; it’s the lowest blitz rate the Dallas offense has seen all year.

The Broncos actually employed the blitz significantly, but only blitzed six times on the 46 drop backs by Dallas. The point being teams have never been successful in ‘blitzing’ Dallas, because the OL stifles opponents. So Denver didn’t even blitz Dallas relative to other opponents. Dak also sucked against the Chargers. The Eagles didn’t have the QB to gk tow to toe and their QB was tossing picks all day and giving Dallas short territory to work with.

The Cowboys’ three worst offensive performances by EPA came against the three defenses that blitzed them the least. Shockingly, for the season, Dallas and Dak are the second-most blitzed offense in the NFL. I say “shockingly” because they’ve been very good against it. They’ve been the fifth-most successful team against the blitz. The four teams above them in that category are, in order, Arizona, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, and Los Angeles. Those four offenses are in the bottom third of the league in blitzes faced. It appears defensive coaches got the memo on those teams. It does not appear that most of them did regarding Dallas.
 
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The fact you are focusing on what is clear hyperbole by myself to emphasize a point to try and try create some argument about ‘semblance of credibility’ is comical..
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Having “all day” to throw is hyperbole. Providing a specific time frame so far out of whack with reality is nonsensical.

Besides, your specific examples mean nothing. Those are individual plays and Nobody is saying the O Line is failing every time and Dak is having to deal with blitzes all by himself. That kind of one sided thinking is all on you and your thought that only the OLine gets credit, and not Dak. That kind of narrow minded position absolutely does lack credibility. The realities in life are rarely all on one side or another on any issue. The reality of this one is the OLine does help Dak, but Dak is Also doing a good job. If either were failing the success rate would not be what it is.
 

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. Having “all day” to throw is hyperbole. Providing a specific time frame so far out of whack with reality is nonsensical.

Besides, your specie price examples mean nothing. Nobody is saying the O Line is failing every time and Dak is having to deal with blitzes all by himself. That kind of one sided thinking is all on you and your thought that only the OLine gets credit, and not Dak. That kind of narrow minded position absolutely does lack credibility. The realities in life are rarely all on one side or another on any issue. The reality of this one is the OLine does help Dak, but Dak is Also doing a good job. If either were failing the success rate would not be what it is.

Again, you are back to engaging in trying to tell me how to use hyperbole, like you did in the past. You are not the inventor of the English language to determine how I can use hyperbole. It’s clear 30 seconds is used figuratively and as hyperbole and the person whose trying to latch on to it as literal to refute an argument is the one that is grasping at straws.

Nobody is saying Dak can make an awesome throw every one I awhile, so I’m not sure what your point is. The reality is this OL and RG has been dominant ever since Dak came to this team.

Dak-stans want to latch onto blitz as some argument Dak is good against pressure, when in reality it’s more of a reflection that our OL and Zeke stifle the blitz and always have.

When Dak sucks, he still has a good rating against the blitz.
 
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This is literally a plug and play QB offense for any average QB that can make his first read throws…. it’s just another game where the QB had all day to throw against a horrible Atlanta team..
 

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The NFL is all about the QB.

Dak played terrific today, showing last week was a one-off.

If the team plays like this, we are Super Bowl contenders for sure.

I love winning the early Sunday game by 40. It makes the rest of the day very enjoyable.

LOL....He almost "Dak-It" with a possible pick 6 to start the game then Zeke and the Boys killed a very inept Falcon team.
Let's hope our guys can keep carrying him until the end of the season as teams with winning records are ahead......:cool:
 

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This is literally a plug and play QB offense for any average QB that can make his first read throws…. it’s just another game where the QB had all day to throw against a horrible Atlanta team..
Yep, any average QB can step in and do the things DAk is … :facepalm:

if you can’t rag on the actual performance just claim any old average guy could do the same, right?
 
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