Dak is not awful, let's really look at things closely!

[GINeric]

This is the kind of laziness I have spoken about before.

So you are avowing that it was Dan and Jim that "failed when it mattered most" when their team lost the super bowls.

Well...first off...they did in fact make it to the super bowl(s). So right there Dak's out of that comparison.

And how did those two QB's perform in their super bowls? HOW...did they fail exactly?

Once we get through that we can do the same for Dak.

Well yes, Marino did make it to one Superbowl and loss. Kaepernick also made it to a Superbowl and loss. That's not laziness, that is real life facts. So what should I take from that? Marino and Kaepernick are on the same tier? They both only have one Superbowl appearance apiece, correct?

The real question is, with all of Marino's numbers, he failed since he never won Superbowls, correct? There is a certain standard for quarterbacks that has been established on this forum, so I'll respectfully stick to the guidelines of these pre-set rules....

Now Nick Foles and Trent Dilfer WON Superbowls. Something Marino and Kelly weren't able to do. Kelly actually had four cracks at it and it only took Foles and Dilfer ONE try and they won.

Again.... according to the "stats don't matter only, winning Superbowls do" crowd..... Foles and Dilfer should be shown more respect than Kelly and Marino, right?

As a matter of fact, according to these same guidelines for quarterbacks, Eli Manning won TWO Superbowls. So clearly Eli Manning was a much better quarterback than Marino and Kelly. According to the standards for quarterbacks that was established on this great fan forum.

Now these guidelines that were established for Romo and Dak, goes for EVERY other quarterback in NFL history, no excuses, no cherry picking, no goal post moving. It can't be one set of rules for Cowboys quarterbacks and all of a sudden a different set of rules or a team game or a coaching staff excuse for other NFL quarterbacks. If stats don't matter for one quarterback then stats don't matter for ALL quarterbacks.

If it's on one quarterback to succeed a certain way, then that same rule goes for ALL quarterbacks.

 

[Vtwin]

Just move on either accept defeat or don’t like I said you have to be smart enough to know I don’t care what you think. You have to.

Yes, That is clear by the fact that you keep on responding over and over and over and over again.

LOL

Classic tmc.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well yes, Marino did make it to one Superbowl and loss. Kaepernick also made it to a Superbowl and loss. That's not laziness, that is real life facts. So what should I take from that? Marino and Kaepernick are on the same tier? They both only have one Superbowl appearance apiece, correct?

The real question is, with all of Marino's numbers, he failed since he never won Superbowls, correct? There is a certain standard for quarterbacks that has been established on this forum, so I'll respectfully stick to the guidelines of these pre-set rules....

Now Nick Foles and Trent Dilfer WON Superbowls. Something Marino and Kelly weren't able to do. Kelly actually had four cracks at it and it only took Foles and Dilfer ONE try and they won.

Again.... according to the "stats don't matter only, winning Superbowls do" crowd..... Foles and Dilfer should be shown more respect than Kelly and Marino, right?

As a matter of fact, according to these same guidelines for quarterbacks, Eli Manning won TWO Superbowls. So clearly Eli Manning was a much better quarterback than Marino and Kelly. According to the standards for quarterbacks that was established on this great fan forum.

Now these guidelines that were established for Romo and Dak, goes for EVERY other quarterback in NFL history, no excuses, no cherry picking, no goal post moving. It can't be one set of rules for Cowboys quarterbacks and all of a sudden a different set of rules or a team game or a coaching staff excuse for other NFL quarterbacks. If stats don't matter for one quarterback then stats don't matter for ALL quarterbacks.

If it's on one quarterback to succeed a certain way, then that same rule goes for ALL quarterbacks.

First off...you didn't actually answer my question in your reply. 2ndly...*I* never said super bowls are the ONLY factor of "success"...so not sure how you managed to make paragraphs about it.

I think average QB's can win super bowls while great ones don't.

I think there is more to a super bowl win than QB play. (and loss for that matter)

I also think QB's contribute to wins and losses.

I personally try to keep consistent criteria, but agree there are mixed and double standards all OVER the place...not just one side.

If someone tells me "Marino never won a super bowl so he's a loser"...I want to know what he did or didn't do in that loss. I'd have to look it up but I think 2 ints to start with. But missing from HIS story is the defense giving up so many points.

 

[ICP]

He's just 'Selectively' awful

 

[CowboyFrog]

Awful?
Nah, mediocre to average.

But that's not good enough for the Cowboys.

no QB would be good enough for this FO and the way they build the team, thats the issue..is Dak worht 60 a year hell no...does it matter if this current FO continues its ways of the last 30 years...hell no...

 

[FVSTONE]

Who do you consider bottom feeders though?

Anyone with extremely losing records, Prescott is out there licking his chops because he knows he going to get those stats, but when he's going up against teams like the 9ers, he looks scared for his life and plays like the 9ers are holding his family hostage and if he doesn't play bad, really bad he's never going to see his family again. Prescott doesn't have another level to his game, it's just not there.

 

[FVSTONE]

He has been weighed, measured, and found to be lacking.
Next man up.
He was rated in the 20s when he went down, the bottom 1/3 of the league is awful in my book.

I like your style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FVSTONE]

He is not awful.
He is just not worth his massive contract.
Thanks Jerry, thanks a lot !

C'mon man, the dude is flat out AWFUL and with his massive contract we're stuck with this bum for a couple of more seasons. This year I'm hoping the Cowboys tank BIGTIME because Arch Manning is at the end of the rainbow in the 2026 draft!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Anyone with extremely losing records, Prescott is out there licking his chops because he knows he going to get those stats, but when he's going up against teams like the 9ers, he looks scared for his life and plays like the 9ers are holding his family hostage and if he doesn't play bad, really bad he's never going to see his family again. Prescott doesn't have another level to his game, it's just not there.

So when he beat Steelers last year was that a bottom feeder?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

C'mon man, the dude is flat out AWFUL and with his massive contract we're stuck with this bum for a couple of more seasons. This year I'm hoping the Cowboys tank BIGTIME because Arch Manning is at the end of the rainbow in the 2026 draft!

It’s crazy Dak is a bum who regardless of how good or bad people think he is has accomplished more than most ever will. But you hype up Arch who can’t even plant Ewers on the bench where he belonged.

 

[FVSTONE]

He's awful in the playoffs, and he's awful against good teams. He was drafted in the 4th round, and I think he's exceeded expectations at times, but he's also played like a 4th round QB often. Saying he's awful means that he's terrible all the time, he's not terrible all the time. I'm not hyping him up, but we have to be real with ourselves. I think there could have been other Qb's that have come here and given us more, but why hang our hats on that???

He's our QB, he's not going anywhere, he has a no trade clause (that can be waived if HE chooses to waive it), hopefully he can be the QB we're paying him to be with the big injury he's coming back from! Please give your thoughts!

What's really GOD awful about Prescott is he's not even a team guy. The dude is as fake as fake get's. When a player makes a statement that he's trying to drive up the cost of his contract to help current and future QBs of the game, nowhere in his statement did he mention TEAM. Nowhere in his statement did he mention he made a lot of money on his last contract and he was taking less this time around to help the TEAM get to the highest levels in the playoffs and SB games. NO MENTION AT ALL ABOUT THE TEAM!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah I would agree, the extreme takes on Dak are out of control. Dak is fine, but hes not special. Hes a starting caliber but mediocre to above average QB in the league at this point who got paid like the top guy. Combine that with a GM/owner with zero intentions of going out of his way to load up on talent to truly compete and we are left with fans frustrated and finger pointing.

If he’s above average then the league is full of above average.

 

[gtb1943]

So when he beat Steelers last year was that a bottom feeder?

versus how many he lost and has lost over his career?
How San Fran owns his butt?

want to talk about that?

 

[gtb1943]

If he’s above average then the league is full of above average.

the lack of logic here is immense

do you even know the definition of average?

 

[triplets_93]

 

[Coogiguy03]

What's really GOD awful about Prescott is he's not even a team guy. The dude is as fake as fake get's. When a player makes a statement that he's trying to drive up the cost of his contract to help current and future QBs of the game, nowhere in his statement did he mention TEAM. Nowhere in his statement did he mention he made a lot of money on his last contract and he was taking less this time around to help the TEAM get to the highest levels in the playoffs and SB games. NO MENTION AT ALL ABOUT THE TEAM!

I guess his only mention about that is getting better every game after losing and losing and losing. I hear what you're saying loud and clear!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

versus how many he lost and has lost over his career?
How San Fran owns his butt?

want to talk about that?

I’m honest enough to say He’s gotten his share of beat downs vs good teams. But you can’t say he has never beaten a good team and then when I bring one up then you pivot to who he hasn’t beaten. Keep the same energy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

the lack of logic here is immense

do you even know the definition of average?

I said “above average”…..not average.

 

[5Stars]

First off...you didn't actually answer my question in your reply. 2ndly...*I* never said super bowls are the ONLY factor of "success"...so not sure how you managed to make paragraphs about it.

I think average QB's can win super bowls while great ones don't.

I think there is more to a super bowl win than QB play. (and loss for that matter)

I also think QB's contribute to wins and losses.

I personally try to keep consistent criteria, but agree there are mixed and double standards all OVER the place...not just one side.

If someone tells me "Marino never won a super bowl so he's a loser"...I want to know what he did or didn't do in that loss. I'd have to look it up but I think 2 ints to start with. But missing from HIS story is the defense giving up so many points.

You need to tear down some of the greats that did not win a SB in order to elevate Dak to some status of some sort. Dak is the worse thing that has ever happened to the Dallas Cowboys. A two faced liar that does not play the game for the money.

 

[GINeric]

First off...you didn't actually answer my question in your reply. 2ndly...*I* never said super bowls are the ONLY factor of "success"...so not sure how you managed to make paragraphs about it.

I think average QB's can win super bowls while great ones don't.

I think there is more to a super bowl win than QB play. (and loss for that matter)

I also think QB's contribute to wins and losses.

I personally try to keep consistent criteria, but agree there are mixed and double standards all OVER the place...not just one side.

If someone tells me "Marino never won a super bowl so he's a loser"...I want to know what he did or didn't do in that loss. I'd have to look it up but I think 2 ints to start with. But missing from HIS story is the defense giving up so many points.

Everything you said in your post is absolutely correct!! I was actually addressing the crowd of people who have double standards when it comes to "quarterback play".

There can't be one set of standards for Cowboys quarterbacks, then a whole different set for other NFL quarterbacks.

But I agree with your post 100 percent.