Dak is not awful, let's really look at things closely!

what was the problem for the 15 years before Dak? You have had 100's of players and 2 SB winning HC's during this time come here and not get anywhere close to the NFCCG...you sure its Dak holding this team back?
Its fashionable to blame the QB when you don't understand football. Romo got same results both of them failed by tweedle d and tweedle dumb up in press box. I actually dont care what they do with Dak as i know as long as jerry is here they arent going to win big unless some luck happens.

Dak aint THE blame but he shares in it for recent failures. I'm glad they extended him just cause I know it irritates some in here. Now having said that Dak lower extremity injuries should be concerning and its past time for throwing darts at his replacement.

They got lucky with both he and Romo but failed to put a good defense around either of them.
 
what was the problem for the 15 years before Dak? You have had 100's of players and 2 SB winning HC's during this time come here and not get anywhere close to the NFCCG...you sure its Dak holding this team back?
The problems with before Dak is Jerry running the team. Dak is a result of Jerry's bad descisons. Jerry paid an average injury prone QB who chokes in the playoffs the highest contract in NFL history. Jerry is holding this team back for example Dak's horrible contract.
 
He's awful in the playoffs, and he's awful against good teams. He was drafted in the 4th round, and I think he's exceeded expectations at times, but he's also played like a 4th round QB often. Saying he's awful means that he's terrible all the time, he's not terrible all the time. I'm not hyping him up, but we have to be real with ourselves. I think there could have been other Qb's that have come here and given us more, but why hang our hats on that???

He's our QB, he's not going anywhere, he has a no trade clause (that can be waived if HE chooses to waive it), hopefully he can be the QB we're paying him to be with the big injury he's coming back from! Please give your thoughts!
No, he has never been awful, and in fact has been pretty darn good.

Nevertheless, that pretty darn good still may not have been good enough, and certainly it was never elite.

Those that pretend he has been terrible are speaking from emotion rather than fact. For some if the QB isn't elite and/or hasn't had the desired playoff success the only option is he is terrible. There are layers in between.
 
No, he has never been awful, and in fact has been pretty darn good.

Nevertheless, that pretty darn good still may not have been good enough, and certainly it was never elite.

Those that pretend he has been terrible are speaking from emotion rather than fact. For some if the QB isn't elite and/or hasn't had the desired playoff success the only option is he is terrible. There are layers in between.
when logic is involved..yes, not here not with this teams QB..."Horrible QB's been letting Jerry down for 30 years!"..its amazing all the facts one has to step over to think that QB's have been the problem the last 30 years
 
Its fashionable to blame the QB when you don't understand football. Romo got same results both of them failed by tweedle d and tweedle dumb up in press box. I actually dont care what they do with Dak as i know as long as jerry is here they arent going to win big unless some luck happens.

Dak aint THE blame but he shares in it for recent failures. I'm glad they extended him just cause I know it irritates some in here. Now having said that Dak lower extremity injuries should be concerning and its past time for throwing darts at his replacement.

They got lucky with both he and Romo but failed to put a good defense around either of them.
I agree that you can't entirely blame the QB for wins or losses...however, Romo's highest paid year, he counted for 20m of the 155.27m cap. That's 13 percent. Dak is currently at 19 percent...after restructing. He's next three years are 67.5m 70.8 million and 80.8m. Romo wasn't worth 20m at the end, but he never commanded anywhere near that high of a cap hit.

As to their performance, I completely disagree with your assessment. Anyone that watched them both play, could see that Romo was a significantly better QB. Just watch him connect with Dez. Dak has a much better WR in Lamb, and rarely hits him in stride. Romo also elevated the game of the WRs around him, making them a lot of money in the process. Also, there is no comparing their lines. Many of Romo's great plays (and bad INTS) were because he was scrambling for his life. It wasn't until the end of his career, when he was banged up, that he finally got a line.

You also say the Cowboys failed to provide them with defenses. Here's the ranking of the 2 according to Pro Football Reference:

Romo: 20th, 13th, 20th, 2nd, 31st, 16th, 24th, 16th, 15th.
Dak: 5th, 13th, 6th, 11th, 28th, 7th, 6th, 5th, 31st.

Dak has 5 top ten defenses.

As to playoff performances, it isn't even comparable. Romo's first lost was because of his job as a placeholder. No other coach would have let their starting QB stay in that position all year. We kick that chip shot, we win. We all know the GB game was stolen. But if you want to put the loss on someone, that is squarely on Murray. Let's not even talk about the deer in the headlight looks we have gotten from Dak in some of his playoff losses.

Bottom line is this. Dak is our current QB and isn't good enough. He's a 30 million a year QB. Good play, but not great. Even you said, he needs help to win. I think the sound argument is this. If he needs that much help to win, why is he paid the top player in the league?
 
I agree that you can't entirely blame the QB for wins or losses...however, Romo's highest paid year, he counted for 20m of the 155.27m cap. That's 13 percent. Dak is currently at 19 percent...after restructing. He's next three years are 67.5m 70.8 million and 80.8m. Romo wasn't worth 20m at the end, but he never commanded anywhere near that high of a cap hit.

As to their performance, I completely disagree with your assessment. Anyone that watched them both play, could see that Romo was a significantly better QB. Just watch him connect with Dez. Dak has a much better WR in Lamb, and rarely hits him in stride. Romo also elevated the game of the WRs around him, making them a lot of money in the process. Also, there is no comparing their lines. Many of Romo's great plays (and bad INTS) were because he was scrambling for his life. It wasn't until the end of his career, when he was banged up, that he finally got a line.

You also say the Cowboys failed to provide them with defenses. Here's the ranking of the 2 according to Pro Football Reference:

Romo: 20th, 13th, 20th, 2nd, 31st, 16th, 24th, 16th, 15th.
Dak: 5th, 13th, 6th, 11th, 28th, 7th, 6th, 5th, 31st.

Dak has 5 top ten defenses.

As to playoff performances, it isn't even comparable. Romo's first lost was because of his job as a placeholder. No other coach would have let their starting QB stay in that position all year. We kick that chip shot, we win. We all know the GB game was stolen. But if you want to put the loss on someone, that is squarely on Murray. Let's not even talk about the deer in the headlight looks we have gotten from Dak in some of his playoff losses.

Bottom line is this. Dak is our current QB and isn't good enough. He's a 30 million a year QB. Good play, but not great. Even you said, he needs help to win. I think the sound argument is this. If he needs that much help to win, why is he paid the top player in the league?
Romo had his chances Dak has had his chances if the end result is Super Bowl that you want they both have failed

They can’t do it alone it’s a team game and I will agree Romo was more accurate and a better qb but neither has been good enough to account for front office failures

I don’t care about daks money. I could give zero you know what’s . I’m more concerned with his health atm. I also have seen Jerry not spend when he had the ability to do so

The biggest problem with this team is the front office. Most QBs don’t win much more than Dak and Romo because of Jerry

Now perhaps a few generational guys may luck into the championship game but Cowboy fans constantly bashing the qb are wrong and frankly it’s been going on for way too long but hey the Karen’s can do as they wish

If you have watched them the playoffs the defense has failed both of them probably Romo more but regardless of regular season rankings it’s clear that defense was an issue or undisciplined players

I don’t get too excited any longer left in 2011 now I have pockets of excitement with the realization that until skelator takes a dirt nap we’re screwed. I watch each week with hope but no big expectations
 
He's awful in the playoffs, and he's awful against good teams. He was drafted in the 4th round, and I think he's exceeded expectations at times, but he's also played like a 4th round QB often. Saying he's awful means that he's terrible all the time, he's not terrible all the time. I'm not hyping him up, but we have to be real with ourselves. I think there could have been other Qb's that have come here and given us more, but why hang our hats on that???

He's our QB, he's not going anywhere, he has a no trade clause (that can be waived if HE chooses to waive it), hopefully he can be the QB we're paying him to be with the big injury he's coming back from! Please give your thoughts!
Bottom line: Dak is simply not good enough. Ridiculous to have given him that contract. Albatross.
 

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