Dak is playing like a 4th round pick

[Rockport]

Haters are going to hate regardless. You can only control whether you will be a lover regardless.

The ideal spot to be in is when lovers and haters hate you equally. My goal is to be hated by everyone. It means I don’t agree with anyone person always.

You’ve reached your goal years ago

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Do you always do what you are told? lol I abide by the message board rules but rules set up by pud knockers sorry I think for myself and always willing to speak my mind. lol

Oh..I didn't realize I said I was going to abide. But hey...let's argue about it...yippee!

 

[Aviano90]

You’ve reached your goal years ago

Everyone gets there with you on their very first post.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This week, Prescott has taken time after practice to throw with his receivers. According to NFL Next Gen Stats data, the Cowboys receivers and tight ends are tied for the third-fewest yards of separation on targets (2.84). If Everybody can help just a little bit more including the line.

I totally agree!

If we're going to get some spark and dynamics in this offense...particular the topic at had passing game....it's must be a group effort. From Mike and Kellen to Dak to WR's and right on to Center.

Everybody needs to regroup, reset, focus and do it together.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Everyone gets there with you on their very first post.

 

[Section446]

He is what he is... above average... always will be.

 

[Slick]

Where’s the one comparing playoff wins?

 

[Rockport]

Where’s the one comparing playoff wins?

Child please.

 

[ondaedg]

4th round pick QBs play erratic

Sometimes they have good games, sometimes they have bad games

4th round pics have usually have accuracy problems

Dak is just a 4th round pick that overachieved once inawile

Great contribution to the Zone!

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Where’s the one comparing playoff wins?

The one that compares the Dallas Cowboys to the Kansas City Chiefs.

The teams aren't the Dallas Prescotts and the Kansas City Mahomes'.

 

[Mobinvans]

Name a 4th round QB draft pick in the last 10 years that’s better

I think you just made my point

4th round QBs just aren’t very good

 

[G2]

I think you just made my point

4th round QBs just aren’t very good

I do agree that you need help making a point.

 

[jazzcat22]

Dak has played like a 1st rounder, and will again.
He has played better than Goff and Wentz, and many still fawn all over those two QB's.

He has played better than other QB's that went before him in the draft no matter what year.

Maybe I should start a thread stating this.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I read where stats are for losers unless they help the spazz.


look below in sig.

 

[cmoney23]

This one's up there... High up there.

Dumbest threads I've ever read.

 

[Kwyn]

4th round pick QBs play erratic

Sometimes they have good games, sometimes they have bad games

4th round pics have usually have accuracy problems

Dak is just a 4th round pick that overachieved once inawile

Whatever dude

 

[CowboyFrog]

More like 7 times in 20

Right its like some people cant use google for some reason....

 

[DOUBLE WING]

I was simply providing examples of quarterbacks drafted to teams with a current winning record so as to quash the myth that it's supposedly impossible to draft a QB and win.

Next years draft has already been written off as having a poor selection of quarterbacks but one or two usually show up from the clouds during the season, Joe Burrow a classic example.
QB scouts are paid a lot of money to assess talent and then the front office assesses the individual personality. Allow them to do their job. You will likely bring up Paxton Lynch (we never know how well he would have on this offense - Denver haven't had a good QB since Peyton and even he was dog meat in his last season) and bang on about the QB busts...that's because they mostly join dumpster fires.

Who said it was impossible to draft a QB and win? All the teams you mentioned were losing teams the year before, thus they picked high enough to draft a top college QB. I asked you for a realistic alternative as to what the Cowboys, which are not currently a losing team, should do. None of the teams you listed are in comparable situations to Dallas. Similarly, none of them are even remotely close to being contenders except maybe New England - and that has very little to do with who their QB is. The only way any of these scenarios would apply to Dallas is if you suggest we should tank for X amount of years and hopefully be bad enough to be in the right spot to draft a top college QB.

It's funny you bring up Denver because they are, consequently, a great model for why it's not so easy to just "draft a QB" and call it a day. Denver drafted three QB's in either the first or second round within the last decade. All three did not/have not panned out and they'll likely be in the market for a QB once again next year. You can literally waste a decade of your franchise's existence cycling through different young QB's trying to hit on one.

My scenario and I mentioned this at the time, would have been to have offered Prescott and a second for the Chargers' pick and Dallas selects Herbert. I remember Catch was huge on Herbert and I wasn't far behind his confidence. I was sure in my mind he was the best QB in the draft. He was still available at #6. People will say why would the Chargers go for that well they would have got a QB with a winning record and fancy stats in the NFL. We miss out on Diggs but I'm not as high on him as most people as he blows assignments to make the picks that he does. Worst case scenario we would have to give them our first and miss out on Lamb. Painful but we still have Cooper and Gallup plus we would have drafted a good receiver in the later rounds last year as there were plenty available, e.g, Gabriel Davis in the 4th round.

See, this is where the anti-Dak scenarios always fall apart. I ask you for a realistic alternative and you throw out a pie-in-the-sky trade scenario that would have never happened in a million years. Again, I'm asking what realistically Dallas should have done to move on from Dak. This is not realistic. This is a Madden trade.

Equally we needed to have signed Prescott earlier in any event and without a no trade clause so the front office retained the power and could send him wherever. Imagine this roster with Herbert and Parsons on rookie contracts plus we should have TJ Watt but that's a story for another day. Again most people on here called that and knew Taco would be a major bust. The front office have basically screwed the team over. I previously stated that we either sign Prescott early so he could be traded if needed or not at all. The front office left it so late yet they kept him, paid him what he wanted and with a no trade clause AFTER a serious leg injury for a dual threat QB! You couldn't make it up. I'm left having to look at his gormless face after he ***** up on the sidelines for the next 2-3 years.

Here's the second place where these anti-Dak pie-in-the-sky scenarios always come crumbling down. You don't seem to understand that in your made-up Dak/Herbert trade, that one move sets off a chain reaction of other moves and drastically changes the trajectory of everything that happens after it. So if we had made your mythical trade, and started Herbert all 16 games last year instead of Dalton/Dinucci/Gilbert for most of the season, we likely finish one or two games better than 6-10 and likely aren't in any position to draft Parsons. So again, realistically here, you're saying you would rather have Herbert than Dak/Lamb/Parsons. Bold statement, but all I can do is laugh.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Who said it was impossible to draft a QB and win? All the teams you mentioned were losing teams the year before, thus they picked high enough to draft a top college QB. I asked you for a realistic alternative as to what the Cowboys, which are not currently a losing team, should do. None of the teams you listed are in comparable situations to Dallas. Similarly, none of them are even remotely close to being contenders except maybe New England - and that has very little to do with who their QB is. The only way any of these scenarios would apply to Dallas is if you suggest we should tank for X amount of years and hopefully be bad enough to be in the right spot to draft a top college QB.

It's funny you bring up Denver because they are, consequently, a great model for why it's not so easy to just "draft a QB" and call it a day. Denver drafted three QB's in either the first or second round within the last decade. All three did not/have not panned out and they'll likely be in the market for a QB once again next year. You can literally waste a decade of your franchise's existence cycling through different young QB's trying to hit on one.



See, this is where the anti-Dak scenarios always fall apart. I ask you for a realistic alternative and you throw out a pie-in-the-sky trade scenario that would have never happened in a million years. Again, I'm asking what realistically Dallas should have done to move on from Dak. This is not realistic. This is a Madden trade.



Here's the second place where these anti-Dak pie-in-the-sky scenarios always come crumbling down. You don't seem to understand that in your made-up Dak/Herbert trade, that one move sets off a chain reaction of other moves and drastically changes the trajectory of everything that happens after it. So if we had made your mythical trade, and started Herbert all 16 games last year instead of Dalton/Dinucci/Gilbert for most of the season, we likely finish one or two games better than 6-10 and likely aren't in any position to draft Parsons. So again, realistically here, you're saying you would rather have Herbert than Dak/Lamb/Parsons. Bold statement, but all I can do is laugh.

Lol and lets not get into what Herbert is gonna want to be paid real soon..lol you know how they are here.."That guy wants money..cut his arss and get another"

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

4th round pick QBs play erratic

Sometimes they have good games, sometimes they have bad games

4th round pics have usually have accuracy problems

Dak is just a 4th round pick that overachieved once inawile

this makes zero sense... criticize him, doesn't matter. there are those who like his game. there are those who don't....

but what the heck does it mean he is playing like a 4th round pick!!!...how does a 4th round pick play? can we compare it to other 4th round picks. Brady was a 6th round pick. does he play like a 6th round pick? joe Montana was a 3rd round pick. Wilson was a 3rd round pick. Favre was a 4th round pick, Daniel jones was a top 10 pick, does he play like a top 10 pick. Turbiskey was the 2nd pick of the draft.....he got cut. Goff was first over all pick and he got traded and they gave up a boatload to get rid of him. Warner was undrafted and bagging groceries, Romo was UDFA too....

you thought you had a clever angle...but after 6 years in the league. what round you were draft is irrelevant to anything.