Dak on his legacy - I want to win a championship

kskboys said:
No sir. You went out of your way to insult anyone who doesn't agree w/ you. And once again you're categorizing people where they don't belong. Are you seriously unaware of your insult slinging? Sad, dude.

No, you do not prefer to talk football. All you do all day every day is Dakspew.
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Yeah this energy is different because he's one guy....meanwhile there's 5 or 6 guys who do exactly what you are accusing them of and that's who he's going back and forth with. They aren't some innocent victims. They are getting the energy and attention they deserve and crave.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Yeah this energy is different because he's one guy....meanwhile there's 5 or 6 guys who do exactly what you are accusing them of and that's who he's going back and forth with. They aren't some innocent victims. They are getting the energy and attention they deserve and crave.
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I took issue w/ it because name calling and insult hurling has no place on this site. Calling people weak-minded and unintelligent makes this site a worse place. I don't care which side it's coming from, I just don't like it on this site. And when called out on it, he started throwing it my way. And started accusing me of things I am not. Lying.
 
kskboys said:
I took issue w/ it because name calling and insult hurling has no place on this site. Calling people weak-minded and unintelligent makes this site a worse place. I don't care which side it's coming from, I just don't like it on this site. And when called out on it, he started throwing it my way. And started accusing me of things I am not. Lying.
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I get that. I'm not a fan of it either. But I've seen his posts and I've seen his interactions and those same posters not only hurl insults at him but do it as others including myself. All I'm saying it isn't one sided yet your energy seems to be directed at one person.
 
CowboyFrog said:
100% but your first is key, was this team winning before Dak or is he just another loser in a loser system?..too your point:

Quarterbacks do not have identical situations in the league. That's the whole point!
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I TOTALLY agree that quarterbacks do not have the same identical situations. That's why making statements like "quarterbacks are supposed to elevate the talent around them" is not accurate in ALL situations.

There's coaching, injuries, LEAGUE LEADING PENALTIES.

It amazes me that when we compare quarterback to quarterback success, we never factor in the intangibles like coaching, play calling, play design and execution across the board. We always talk about just quarterback vs quarterback.

People like to bring up what happened in the playoffs. Most of what they say are legit arguments. But games like that first 49er playoff game. 14,15 penalties vs the number one 49er defense.

What quarterback in history win playoff games vs a number one defense in the playoffs. We led the league in penalties for 3 or 4 straight seasons. How many quarterbacks had any notable success in situations like that?

Oh, before last season, our starting offensive linemen hadn't played together for 3 straight seasons. Things like this matter. At the end of the day, it takes a TEAM to succeed and yes that starts with excellent quarterback play in which Dak hasn't provided when we needed that.

With that said, others have let us down as well. That's all i was saying. But a few soft and tender minded people here got mad because I mentioned that our quarterback was not our only source of underachieving in big games.
 
GINeric said:
I TOTALLY agree that quarterbacks do not have the same identical situations. That's why making statements like "quarterbacks are supposed to elevate the talent around them" is not accurate in ALL situations.

There's coaching, injuries, LEAGUE LEADING PENALTIES.

It amazes me that when we compare quarterback to quarterback success, we never factor in the intangibles like coaching, play calling, play design and execution across the board. We always talk about just quarterback vs quarterback.

People like to bring up what happened in the playoffs. Most of what they say are legit arguments. But games like that first 49er playoff game. 14,15 penalties vs the number one 49er defense.

What quarterback in history win playoff games vs a number one defense in the playoffs. We led the league in penalties for 3 or 4 straight seasons. How many quarterbacks had any notable success in situations like that?

Oh, before last season, our starting offensive linemen hadn't played together for 3 straight seasons. Things like this matter. At the end of the day, it takes a TEAM to succeed and yes that starts with excellent quarterback play in which Dak hasn't provided when we needed that.

With that said, others have let us down as well. That's all i was saying. But a few soft and tender minded people here got mad because I mentioned that our quarterback was not our only source of underachieving in big games.
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Correct what QB wins in the Jerry Jones system? Like he said

Quarterbacks do not have identical situations in the league. That's the whole point!
 
MountaineerCowboy said:
You misread (crazy I know).

I said "care" not "discuss".

Why should anyone here, on a Dallas Cowboys message board, care if Lamar or Allen is encouraging their teammates?

You are unhinged, but I responded anyways, and will not be doing so further.
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:huh: WHAT!?

that was an utterly stupid response.


but I know why you haCe "chosen" not respond further.
you were looking for an excuse not to answer the question of Marino or Dilfer? which was asked 8 times... you have been looking for an out. this is your way of not answering.

you are so obvious, its hilarious. "unhinged". I literally LOL.
the only person who thinks you are smarter than everybody else is you.

Sorry dude. I know I embarass you sometimes. its not intentional. you have a habit of walking into it.

good luck :thumbup:

pure TMZ
 
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SteveTheCowboy said:
Like...how many? 1?

And imagine, for a moment, if you will...nobody replied to these alleged dak obsessed bashers? Funny thing is how the Dak defenders some a running if they think they see it. Two sides, one coin. None of it good for any of us.

And yes...QB gets the glory(especially big glorious check!) and the blame. Dak isn't special in that regard.
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hmmm, TMZ, Khiladi, the hamburger dude. few others.

and never said dak was special or not. deserves it or not. just what it is. QB, gets the glory and the blame, wrongfully and rightfully
 
CowboyFrog said:
Correct what QB wins in the Jerry Jones system? Like he said

Quarterbacks do not have identical situations in the league. That's the whole point!
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And that last statement you typed is the sole reason why you can't compare quarterback to quarterback in most situations.

So when people say dumb **** like "Dak will never win a big game like a superbowl because he is a bum".

According to what they're saying, Jim Kelly and Dan are bums and Nick Foles and Trent Dilfer are better than they are because Dilfer and Foles won Superbowls.

You see how that works? This isn't boxing or golf. So for the people who place it all on Dak, im fine with that as LONG as we keep that same "placing it all on the quarterback" energy on every other NFL quarterback without the excuses and goalpost moving for them.

Then that's where the divide happens. Because once I start hearing excuses for other quarterbacks who fizzle in the playoffs, im like NOPE!!! We can't use those excuses under the "it's all on the quarterback" law that was established here.
 
GINeric said:
And that last statement you typed is the sole reason why you can't compare quarterback to quarterback in most situations.

So when people say dumb **** like "Dak will never win a big game like a superbowl because he is a bum".

According to what they're saying, Jim Kelly and Dan are bums and Nick Foles and Trent Dilfer are better than they are because Dilfer and Foles won Superbowls.

You see how that works? This isn't boxing or golf. So for the people who place it all on Dak, im fine with that as LONG as we keep that same "placing it all on the quarterback" energy on every other NFL quarterback without the excuses and goalpost moving for them.

Then that's where the divide happens. Because once I start hearing excuses for other quarterbacks who fizzle in the playoffs, im like NOPE!!! We can't use those excuses under the "it's all on the quarterback" law that was established here.
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100% but everyone has to have a villian and for some reasom some here dont choose the GM
 
kskboys said:
No sir. You went out of your way to insult anyone who doesn't agree w/ you. And once again you're categorizing people where they don't belong. Are you seriously unaware of your insult slinging? Sad, dude.

No, you do not prefer to talk football. All you do all day every day is Dakspew.
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Im not sure what this Dakspew crap is that you're talking. Im not used to those lil creative words you're apparently used to using in your high school gym class or wherever you got it from.

With that said, I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me. There are a few people here that I dont agree with on some football topics but I respect the hell out of them because they're opinions are consistent with real life occurrences and across the board. They dont say something about one player then give excuses for other players.

Its sad that weak people like you are hypocrites and support hypocrites. Only weak minded, unintelligent people will place expectations solely on one player, then call it a team game for 31 other players that play the same position.

Like I said before, we can talk football, but obviously your weak *** want to continue to toss out insults. So I will be very disrespectful to your punk *** from here on out. Its at where it's at lil boy.
 
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