Dak on Third Down GB

[Ken]

this is something a lot of us have known... only Dakazoids fail accept any of it. they'll blame Rowdy before they hold Dak accountable.

Right...the same people post this drivel and like it.

SAME PEOPLE> EVERY TIME.

 

[mattjames2010]

Sounds a lot like Romo used to be

Well, you could always post stats to counter it.

 

[Ken]

The Cowboys were like 9-11 on 3rd downs against Chicago a week before.

They don't care about that...they have a bone right now. Their tails are wagging.

Not to mention both ints not on Dak, another was a PI with the game on the line in OT. The ones he converted were on TD drives...of course you have to take out the ones that he ran for because that hurts the argument....

It is ridiculous at this point. I am ready for us to beat Minny this week so they can go back in their holes.

 

[Ken]

His success has been a product of the personnel around him. Put him on last years Bengals team and they dont make the playoffs.

Right.

Look at all of the stud talent he has had. Where is it exactly? A broken RB? An overpaid and overated WR?

An OL that had to be revamped because it underwhelmed.

Where is all of this talent??????

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Look at all of the stud talent he has had. Where is it exactly? A broken RB? An overpaid and overated WR?

Was that always a broken RB? I recall a pushing running game with a stacked OLine that had what 3 first rounders on it? A WR who no one had a problem with when Romo was here but suddenly the claims that he can't catch? LOL, Dak Prescott as a QB needs an all pro team around him to win and even then you can't ask him to do too much.

 

[5Stars]

Just as an aside, Dallas started employing more 11 personnel when Dak came back (maybe also Gallup), per the Detroit numbers, but Rush was more effective in the 2 TE sets. As far as third-down with GB, here is an “interesting tid-bit”:



Ignore the dribble that “Dak is normally good on third down” down below as an advanced warning for the scrub, because garbage time, soft-zone doesn’t count…





Quotes taken from Atlantic article, “
Cowboys offense was productive, but third-down woes, interceptions costly”

So what does this mean? It’s essentially Denver all over again. You can blame the OL all you want, but in reality the blitz numbers show Dallas holds up front quite well in pressure situations. Dak, on the other hand, when defenses only rush 4, he can’t throw, particularly against a zone, to save his life.

You are what you are after three years and after those years go bye,
it won't get better until Dak get's out that stank.
Laying in bed...crying in my cowboy sleep.

 

[Ken]

Was that always a broken RB? I recall a pushing running game with a stacked OLine that had what 3 first rounders on it? A WR who no one had a problem with when Romo was here but suddenly the claims that he can't catch? LOL, Dak Prescott as a QB needs an all pro team around him to win and even then you can't ask him to do too much.

Dez? We going back to 2016 huh?

Ya, he was on the tail end and Dak was a rookie qb. Show me all the rookie qbs who did better than dak did that year, I'll wait.

You guys love to mulch over the same lame tired arguments.

 

[shabazz]

That means CeeDee needs to start running the right routes.

yes….even if the safety is occupying the space where the throw will take place keep you’re route because the Qb won’t recognize it and throw to the other 3 options or out of bounds…..they have to know he’s locked on to #1 read and nothing else…..we agree

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Show me all the rookie qbs who did better than dak did that year, I'll wait.

Which rookie QB had the situation that Dak walked into? I'll wait.

 

[Whyjerry]

He was so bad he was up 28-14 and his defense gave up 14 points….Dak needs to learn how to stop the run.

Yeah Dak need to be a much better tackler.

 

[5Stars]

Dez? We going back to 2016 huh?

Ya, he was on the tail end and Dak was a rookie qb. Show me all the rookie qbs who did better than dak did that year, I'll wait.

You guys love to mulch over the same lame tired arguments.

And you still here with us? Nice....I'm getting ready for the climb to see what this team is all about.
Let's hope the Dak road gets the boyz home.

I don't like to go back, I like to go forward...
play a guitar and smoke some weed. Maybe write a cool Cowboy song.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Well, you could always post stats to counter it.

One thing for sure is Romo was not a choker. His career was wasted here.

http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2013/10/the-truth-about-tony-romo.html?m=1

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

As Dak would say playing quarterback is easy, the problem is Dak can't read the defense very well. He throws after the wide receiver has turned his route giving him less time to throw it in the smaller window,

This has been a constant talking point, yet no one has actually proven it... even the two INT's last game shows Dak throwing with anticipation. A little research and video goes a long way.

 

[john van brocklin]

Just as an aside, Dallas started employing more 11 personnel when Dak came back (maybe also Gallup), per the Detroit numbers, but Rush was more effective in the 2 TE sets. As far as third-down with GB, here is an “interesting tid-bit”:







Ignore the dribble that “Dak is normally good on third down” down below as an advanced warning for the scrub, because garbage time, soft-zone doesn’t count…











Quotes taken from Atlantic article, “

Cowboys offense was productive, but third-down woes, interceptions costly”



So what does this mean? It’s essentially Denver all over again. You can blame the OL all you want, but in reality the blitz numbers show Dallas holds up front quite well in pressure situations. Dak, on the other hand, when defenses only rush 4, he can’t throw, particularly against a zone, to save his life.

He's limited.
That's our reality

 

[khiladi]

This has been a constant talking point, yet no one has actually proven it... even the two INT's last game shows Dak throwing with anticipation. A little research and video goes a long way.

LoL.

What do you think anticipation is? Throwing after the WR makes his break? That’s not anticipation, that’s late delivery. Throwing on your first read m, while staring his down isn’t anticipation. Mis-reading a defense and throwing it to a WR to get picked off isn’t anticipation.

This isn’t anticipation m. That’s throwing to Lamb who has his WR beaten on a crossing route. This wasn’t an option route. If anything, that’s a good play call by Moore. And QB in the NFL can make that throw.

 

[acr731]

He was so bad he was up 28-14 and his defense gave up 14 points….Dak needs to learn how to stop the run.

If I remember correctly, the offense had the ball more than once and didn't do squat while the defense was sucking. The whole team sucked, Dak and the offense included.

 

[America's Cowboy]

These Dak haters need to start getting banned. They keep creating these senseless Dak blame hatred threads that have already been debunked over and over simply because they refuse to accept they are wrong to blame Dak for those Interceptions against Green Bay.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

LoL.

What do you think anticipation is? Throwing after the WR makes his break? That’s not anticipation, that’s late delivery. Throwing on your first read m, while staring his down isn’t anticipation. Mis-reading a defense and throwing it to a WR to get picked off isn’t anticipation.

This isn’t anticipation m. That’s throwing to Lamb who has his WR beaten on a crossing route. This wasn’t an option route. If anything, that’s a good play call by Moore. And QB in the NFL can make that throw.

That clip has three plays showing anticipation and throwing to the wr in stride (which yall also say he can't do). Also did the INT's not prove he throws with anticipation?

 

[khiladi]

That clip has three plays showing anticipation and throwing to the wr in stride (which yall also say he can't do). Also did the INT's not prove he throws with anticipation?

No, it shows a throw to a WR who had beat his man by a few steps on a crossing route in a play design where Moore has everything right Dak’s vision and every average QB in the NFL can make regularly.

This is just a throw to a WR running a crossing route.

There is not even a break here on an option route, which Dak generally delivers late.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

If I remember correctly, the offense had the ball more than once and didn't do squat while the defense was sucking. The whole team sucked, Dak and the offense included.

There were several flags and missed calls that killed drives in the 4th. There isnt just one person to blame for that.