Dak on Third Down GB

[Ken]

Which rookie QB had the situation that Dak walked into? I'll wait.

Almost all.

Most qbs get drafted high and go into teams that won 5 or less games the previous season.

 

[G2]

Prescott plays by himself on all 3rd downs.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Almost all.

Most qbs get drafted high and go into teams that won 5 or less games the previous season.

So teams pick QB's with a high draft pick have stellar offensive lines and a wrecking ball of a running game? Stacked at receiver? Or are those teams rebuilding?

 

[Ken]

So teams pick QB's with a high draft pick have stellar offensive lines and a wrecking ball of a running game? Stacked at receiver? Or are those teams rebuilding?

They were stacked when Dak and Zeke got there.

They won 4 games without them the year before.

This isn't hard.

 

[glimmerman]

Just as an aside, notice the numbers. There were 83 total snaps and 56 snaps in 11 personnel, which I’m pretty sure nowhere does that ratio apply to when Rush is QB.

So the personnel is most probably dictating way more options for Dak to choose to pass, then with Rush.

Dak don’t need to choose. He needs to run the play that’s called. Someone told he in the nasty bucs game he audibles 12 times. Changing plays from run to pass. That’s a lot of plays changed in a major loss. Then Rush comes in and plays what’s called and has success. Dak stands on the sidelines and watched and says he is amazed at how simple it is. No crap Dak. Now I support my QB and think he can get it done but Moore has been told to commit to the run. And he has. When we run and then play action later the longer passes are open. You have to set them up.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Apparently you didn’t understand my first post, when I stated:



As you can see, I asked you how can this route be considered anticipation and gave you THREE different scenarios that could apply that could illustrate anticipation on this crossing route, not just option routes.

I was tasking your to show me how this basic throw on a crossing route that every QB in the NFL can make regularly qualifies as anticipation. The throw a ball to a WR in which he catches it in stride while being wide open doesn’t qualify as “anticipation”, otherwise that’s pretty much 90% of the throw in the NFLir in football generally.

So the implication of this point is, I clearly knows that multiple different scenarios can be considered anticipation. So when I followed it up with:



I was just giving one of the previous examples I stated above, with the fact that Dak generally delivers late, like he did on both INTs against GB, while also not being able to probably read a defense.

All you then proceeded to do is provide me a video of Harbaugh discussing anticipation, but still haven’t told me his this crossing route exemplifies anticipation.

Now, let us proceed to one more point. I know there is film out there of Dak actually completing a pass against zone defenses, but that doesn’t mean he can actually throw against a zone. And let us proceed to one more point as well, the two INTs that Dal threw as exemplifying anticipating. Well, does it when both times he delivered it late after the break and hs chucked it into an area with multiple defenders around. So now throwing it blindly into multiple defenders because you expect your WR to run a flat te route, because our blind as hell to the LB who dropped into passing coverage Is an anticipation or he just can’t read a defense and not process the field properly?

well,,well... lips quiver,, he's the best and I have got his jersey and sleep with it on every night..so there.. he's the best ever.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

They were stacked when Dak and Zeke got there.

They won 4 games without them the year before.

This isn't hard.

Thanks in part to losing their starting QB and having literally no viable alternative behind him. Again, what team that picked a QB high in that draft had an OLine that dominant?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The offense cannot go comatose for long stretches of the game and expect the defense to simply hold people. We are not the Ravens defense with Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs.

I agree somewhat. Its not like they were facing a juggernaut. They faced the Packers at Lambeau who were playing conservative. It wasn't a talk task to ask a good defense to not give up 14 points in a quarter.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Maybe they wouldn't have had the QB not handed them the ball with great field position a time or two.

Team game.

lol

When did Dak had them the ball in the 4th quarter when they gave up 14 points? You sure we watched the same game?

 

[Captain-Crash]

you guys are crazy, dak would have singlehanded carried the Bengals to the super bowl. then I woke up laughing really hard and loudly.

 

[Vtwin]

When did Dak had them the ball in the 4th quarter when they gave up 14 points? You sure we watched the same game?

You do know the other three quarters count, don't you?

Maybe, just maybe, a field goal instead of a turnover leading to 7 for the other team might have lead to a different outcome?

Maybe, just maybe, a field goal in the fourth quarter might have lead to a different outcome?

Did you even watch the game? It sounds like you caught a few highlights and checked the box score.

 

[Ken]

Thanks in part to losing their starting QB and having literally no viable alternative behind him. Again, what team that picked a QB high in that draft had an OLine that dominant?

Is that supposed to be a sleight to Dak?


He played with the hand he was dealt as a 4th round rookie.

Ridiculous argument.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I agree somewhat. Its not like they were facing a juggernaut. They faced the Packers at Lambeau who were playing conservative. It wasn't a talk task to ask a good defense to not give up 14 points in a quarter.

It is when you simply keep going 3 and out and demand the defense pick up the slack, at some point it's going to fail. I notice that the expectation is for the defense to play at a high level and the offense to play when they feel like.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It is when you simply keep going 3 and out and demand the defense pick up the slack, at some point it's going to fail. I notice that the expectation is for the defense to play at a high level and the offense to play when they feel like.

It wouldn't be this way if the defense hadn't played so well. If the defense sucks then maybe we should change our expectations of it. But people Sure were calling it "the best" this and "the best" that....calling it Doomsday.....Nobdoy never considered this offense a juggernaut. As a matter of fact this place said we would suck after losing Cooper. The defenses issue isn't because they are tired. Or because the offense had too many 3 and outs. They can't stop the run. If you can't stop the run you are doomed. Teams know that now.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

It wouldn't be this way if the defense hadn't played so well. If the defense sucks then maybe we should change our expectations of it. But people Sure were calling it "the best" this and "the best" that....calling it Doomsday.....Nobdoy never considered this offense a juggernaut. As a matter of fact this place said we would suck after losing Cooper. The defenses issue isn't because they are tired. Or because the offense had too many 3 and outs. They can't stop the run. If you can't stop the run you are doomed. Teams know that now.

The expectations of fanbase have no real basis of reality. Reality is that this team over the last 5 years has operated with a somewhat good defense and a sputtering offense that too often leaves the defense out to dry.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The expectations of fanbase have no real basis of reality. Reality is that this team over the last 5 years has operated with a somewhat good defense and a sputtering offense that too often leaves the defense out to dry.

Yeah that most definitely is not the reality. The defense has been inconsistent at best. From
Decent to good with Maranelli, Bad with Nolan and Good with Quinn. But no matter who has coached they can’t stop the run and you can’t win without doing it.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Is that supposed to be a sleight to Dak?

Only if you think wasting time and talent around him is not justified

 

[IslandCowboy]

The Cowboys were like 9-11 on 3rd downs against Chicago a week before.

Chicago is a crap team, not much to write home about.