Dak Play from Sunday

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I think Fahey is overthinking here. This looked like a specific play drawn up by Linehan. Mainly because we've never run it before, the time and the down and yardage it was used. This was a smart play call, I just wished we used a little more of things like this to keep the Giants pass rush off-guard earlier in the game.




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I don't think heboverthinking it. Dak was doin a lot presnap adjustments, especially early in in the game.
 

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Little play that showed major growth.

A big part of the Giants success was their multiple coverages last season. They dropped DL into coverage a lot in their zone blitzes and Dak played as confused as he looked. Sunday night not so much. Plays like this make a mockery of the lazy tape trope. He motions to recognize the blitz, audibles out and ends up with a DT on Zeke in coverage.



Brilliant. That is straight up blue print material right there. I'll be looking for devices like that in the next game.

Does Romo draw any Cowboys games this year. I could think of no one I would rather listen to than a guy that knows this team and division as intimately as Romo. He could teach the fans alot.
 

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Little play that showed major growth.

A big part of the Giants success was their multiple coverages last season. They dropped DL into coverage a lot in their zone blitzes and Dak played as confused as he looked. Sunday night not so much. Plays like this make a mockery of the lazy tape trope. He motions to recognize the blitz, audibles out and ends up with a DT on Zeke in coverage.



I wish it was true, but that was the play design.
 

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I think Fahey is overthinking here.
I think he's using overstatement for effect. It's one thing to point out that Dak is doing a lot pre-snap (which is obviously more than just that one play from the OP), it's another to call it "outrageous" and invoke the name of Peyton Manning.

But it does generate muchos replies.
 

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Brilliant. That is straight up blue print material right there. I'll be looking for devices like that in the next game.

Does Romo draw any Cowboys games this year. I could think of no one I would rather listen to than a guy that knows this team and division as intimately as Romo. He could teach the fans alot.
I think Romo calls the game against the Chiefs this year.
 

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Brilliant. That is straight up blue print material right there. I'll be looking for devices like that in the next game.

Does Romo draw any Cowboys games this year. I could think of no one I would rather listen to than a guy that knows this team and division as intimately as Romo. He could teach the fans alot.

Romo is probably going to set a new standard for color commentary in professional football, or he won't be in the booth for long before he's an analyst with his own show doing film breakdown.
 

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I think Romo calls the game against the Chiefs this year.
I suspect that will be a very educational experience. He'll be able to tell us exactly what Linehan is thinking on offense, as well as, what Marinelli is attempting to do on defense. I think the NFL missed a golden opportunity to drive up ratings even further on their best selling ticket in town; Romo should absolutely have been assigned more Cowboys games.
 

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Romo is probably going to set a new standard for color commentary in professional football, or he won't be in the booth for long before he's an analyst with his own show doing film breakdown.
With better education, comes better appreciation. The NFL should absolutely place a premium on color commentary doing a better job of explaining what is happening to the general public. It might help control the uninformed troll population. I can deal with trolls; but when they are ill-informed, they are intolerable. :grin:
 

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Dak did a lot of good things, but this entire sequence was designed by Linehan to LOOK like an audible. It wasn't.

That was a play they put in special for the Giants.
 

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I think he's using overstatement for effect. It's one thing to point out that Dak is doing a lot pre-snap (which is obviously more than just that one play from the OP), it's another to call it "outrageous" and invoke the name of Peyton Manning.

But it does generate muchos replies.

I think the play was pretty much designed from the get-go. They wanted to show the Giants a look of a typical 11 personnel with Witten lined up in the Y. Have EE line up out wide and then motion to the backfield. We do this a lot in order to tip off what coverage the opponent was playing. We knew that the Giants linebacker was likely to blitz because he didn't take EE seriously as a receiver because EE usually stays in to block on those plays.

In essence, it had a lot of the elements of a trick play where we set up the Giants and we probably practiced this play quite a bit during the week to use it when we needed it.





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A combination. I think it was the play as designed, with Prescott expected to read the defense. If he would've motioned Zeke into the backfield and the safety didn't come into the box, Dak probably would've audibled to a run.

Correct.




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I wish it was true, but that was the play design.
I'm not exactly doubting you on this, but I am curious, how do you know?

I ask because watching it, it seemed like Dak sized up the field for a second, then reached over to nudge Zeke into his motion to the outside. Once Dak determined who was following the running back, from there he knew the way the rest of the coverage would shake out and knew Zeke would have a nice play based on that coverage. That, in my mind, speaks to Dak's film work.

Also, even if it was by design, you still have to appreciate the execution of it. It seems simple, but if it were, 2015 would have played out differently.
 

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Was that an audible or a signal to motion Zeke back to the QB? I.e., a Linehan play design to catch the Giants slipping?

In any event, great stuff, ACF.

That was nice!

Looks like a designed play to me, Witten and Beasley are almost on top of each other with their routes. They were expecting man and creating space for Zeke to do his thing.

Zeke usually stays in to block in that situation, it looks like Dak is motioning back to help with blitz pick than he slips out the back door into the space Witten and Beasley vacated. Great play design by Linehan and JG.
 

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I think the play was pretty much designed from the get-go. They wanted to show the Giants a look of a typical 11 personnel with Witten lined up in the Y. Have EE line up out wide and then motion to the backfield. We do this a lot in order to tip off what coverage the opponent was playing. We knew that the Giants linebacker was likely to blitz because he didn't take EE seriously as a receiver because EE usually stays in to block on those plays.

In essence, it had a lot of the elements of a trick play where we set up the Giants and we probably practiced this play quite a bit during the week to use it when we needed it.





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I wouldn't doubt any of that, as far as that one play is concerned, but again he was tweeting about several different plays. And I do doubt the sincerity of a blogger who always seems to find his way to the exact center of a controversy.
 

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I'm not exactly doubting you on this, but I am curious, how do you know?

I ask because watching it, it seemed like Dak sized up the field for a second, then reached over to nudge Zeke into his motion to the outside. Once Dak determined who was following the running back, from there he knew the way the rest of the coverage would shake out and knew Zeke would have a nice play based on that coverage. That, in my mind, speaks to Dak's film work.

Also, even if it was by design, you still have to appreciate the execution of it. It seems simple, but if it were, 2015 would have played out differently.
It's an option type play. The option is based on what Dak sees. He didn't call one play and then change the play.
 

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It's an option type play. The option is based on what Dak sees. He didn't call one play and then change the play.
I didn't think he changed the play. He was putting Zeke out to figure out the coverage. Once he knew who was following Zeke, from there he could diagnose the coverage that everyone else was matched against.
 

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Oh btw Fahey is warring with Eagles fans over Wentz for his inaccuracy on his deep passes, 3 interceptable passes in the first half, the pick 6, and the screen he threw so poorly it turned into a fumble. His take on the "great" pass to Aggy is that Wentz missed his read and moved into pressure.

He's not wrong on any of that, maybe save for the last statement on the Agholor catch. Wentz's deep ball accuracy isn't particularly good. He had 3-5 balls that could have easily been INTs by kind of throwing it up without thinking - his decision making needs real work. He is responsible for the fumble on the backward pass because the pass was terrible. That's 2 turnovers vs a bad defense. Wentz is getting tons of praise around here in Philly for his game, and I don't get it.
 
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