Dak Prescott has done something only Peyton Manning did before him

[SteveTheCowboy]

a super machine, you mean on Offense maybe. and that didn't last long.

lmao many examples but Big Ben. russ wilson., and Purdy just of the top of my head Landed on great teams with far better defense than Dak got in the 2016 playoff loss.. Dak came to play the machine was on Offense, we lost because of defense. lost in 18 because mostly defense, lost 21 because of 14 penalties, NO RUN game, OL was not good at all, and Dak finally had what one would call a shaky 2 INT playoff game in round 2 with NO RUN Game, pass protection poor, OL being manhandled, Maher not great, Shultz 2 Bone headed plays on that 3min drive, Gallup not fighting for that route and it tuned into an INT and lastly 16 runs pollard gets hurt and then Davis gets zero carries..

sure, some of its on Dak but give that nonsense a break, team game, I listed plenty of team issues that game.

give dak the LOB in 16 and 18 we are at minimum in the NFCCG...

a super machine on one side of the ball not coaching or defense and them as the years went by the team was nowhere near that super machine as his weapons got taken away and not replaced like 17 zeke suspended injuries along to OL, going into 18 with a WRBC, and 2022 with 4 starters removed.

same with Romo in 14 should a defense had showed up , Murray not fumbled, baily didn't miss 2 fgs, and the dez no catch..

Keep up the dak blame game and hes not been the reason we didn't make the NFCGs outside of 9er game with 2 iNts was his worst outing in the playoffs BUT i listed other reasons we fell 7 points short and too add to it the defense was great BUT Diggs makes those 2 big plays who knows.
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Its TEAM Game and daks not been losing alone.

I think you're coming down on me too hard man. Where am I saying it's ONLY dak? Wasn't even talking about that kind of thing.

. Read what you quoted from me again. Show me where I hate dak or blaming him for anything.

I think you should take a little break from your crusade dude. It's really messing with you.

 

[USArmyVet]

Clearly, they overachieved. Everyone on ESPN, Fox Sports, FS1, etc have been saying for over a week how Dak had no weapons (other than CeeDee) at WR. Are you professing to know more than all them professional sports analysts and ex-players?

Okay for the sake of debate say Dak had no weapons in 2022 (I disagree obviously) so what was the excuse in 2021 when Dallas lost to SF in the playoffs? The Dak-led offense scored only 17 points the entire game and only 7 points through 3-1/3 quarters while having Zeke, Pollard, Cooper, Schultz, Lamb, and Wilson...certainly more weapons than in 2022. In that game the Dallas defense gave up 23 points for the game of which 7 points came as a direct result of a Dak INT on his own 26-yard line.

So in those 2 playoff games the Dallas defense gave up a total of 42 points (13 of which came from Dak INT's) while the Dallas offense only mustered 29 points both with and without weapons as you claim.

So while we may disagree on many things, the one thing we can agree on is that in this example Dak failed the team with and without weapons so is it really the weapons or is it Dak.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Quoted from my original post: "Too bad it's only a sample size of one game."

But thanks for playing.

if its "too bad its only a sample size of one game"....then it was an unnecessary post. that's the point

 

[America's Cowboy]

Okay for the sake of debate say Dak had no weapons in 2022 (I disagree obviously) so what was the excuse in 2021 when Dallas lost to SF in the playoffs? The Dak-led offense scored only 17 points the entire game and only 7 points through 3-1/3 quarters while having Zeke, Pollard, Cooper, Schultz, Lamb, and Wilson...certainly more weapons than in 2022. In that game the Dallas defense gave up 23 points for the game of which 7 points came as a direct result of a Dak INT on his own 26-yard line.

So in those 2 playoff games the Dallas defense gave up a total of 42 points (13 of which came from Dak INT's) while the Dallas offense only mustered 29 points both with and without weapons as you claim.

So while we may disagree on many things, the one thing we can agree on is that in this example Dak failed the team with and without weapons so is it really the weapons or is it Dak.

Dak didn't fail in the 2021 playoff game. He passed for over 250 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. Garrapolo passed for only 172 yards, 0 TDs and 1 INT, yet the 49ers won. Go look at how many rushing yards our RBs gained. Here, I'll do it for you: a combined 45 yards between Zeke and Tony Pollard. It was the same darn thing during this year's playoff loss to those same 49ers: only 48 rushing yards between Zeke and Tony. Yet, Dak passed for over 200 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs with no weapons to throw to. The biggest problem during both games was our Oline sucking and our run game being non-existent. That was the problem, but you don't want to see it because you're just fixated on Dak.

 

[USArmyVet]

Dak didn't fail in the 2021 playoff game. He passed for over 250 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. Garrapolo passed for only 172 yards, 0 TDs and 1 INT, yet the 49ers won. Go look at how many rushing yards our RBs gained. Here, I'll do it for you: a combined 45 yards between Zeke and Tony Pollard. It was the same darn thing during this year's playoff loss to those same 49ers: only 48 rushing yards between Zeke and Tony. Yet, Dak passed for over 200 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs with no weapons to throw to. The biggest problem during both games was our Oline sucking and our run game being non-existent. That was the problem, but you don't want to see it because you're just fixated on Dak.

...yet you do not mention that of the 250 yards passing Dak had in the 2021 game, 142 of those yards came with 1:34 remaining in the 3rd quarter and throughout the entire 4th quarter which means Dak had only passed for 108 yards through almost 3 full quarters of the game.

Also of note is that Dallas was behind 16-7 halfway through the 3rd quarter when Dak threw that INT on his own 26-yard line which SF turned into a TD.....important because Dallas lost 23-17....so that INT and Dak's play through nearly 3 quarters was the difference maker....just like Dak's 2 INT's in the 2022 game vs. SF was the difference maker.

So originally you stated Dallas lost the 2022 game vs. SF because they had no weapons and now you are BOTH losses were because of poor o-line play and a lack of a running game......so which excuse is it really?

The FACT is that Dak's 3 INT's and poor play cost Dallas BOTH games.....no excuse in the world can counter that no matter how much you try.

 

[America's Cowboy]

...yet you do not mention that of the 250 yards passing Dak had in the 2021 game, 142 of those yards came with 1:34 remaining in the 3rd quarter and throughout the entire 4th quarter which means Dak had only passed for 108 yards through almost 3 full quarters of the game.

Also of note is that Dallas was behind 16-7 halfway through the 3rd quarter when Dak threw that INT on his own 26-yard line which SF turned into a TD.....important because Dallas lost 23-17....so that INT and Dak's play through nearly 3 quarters was the difference maker....just like Dak's 2 INT's in the 2022 game vs. SF was the difference maker.

So originally you stated Dallas lost the 2022 game vs. SF because they had no weapons and now you are BOTH losses were because of poor o-line play and a lack of a running game......so which excuse is it really?

The FACT is that Dak's 3 INT's and poor play cost Dallas BOTH games.....no excuse in the world can counter that no matter how much you try.

NO RUSHING ATTACK WHATSOEVER DURING BOTH PLAYOFF LOSSES. Do you truly believe the 3 SB winning Cowboys of the 90s would have won those SBs without a decent rushing attack and good Oline performance? Hell no. Wake up.

 

[USArmyVet]

NO RUSHING ATTACK WHATSOEVER DURING BOTH PLAYOFF LOSSES. Do you truly believe the 3 SB winning Cowboys of the 90s would have won those SBs without a decent rushing attack and good Oline performance? Hell no. Wake up.

The game was different in the 90's wherein rushing was the priority whereas today the passing game has taken over.....but if you need to compare the game 20 years ago to somehow defend Dak then that is your choice.....but it does not absolve Dak and his INT's costing Dallas both playoff games.

You lean on no rushing attack as the reason Dallas lost both those games.....funny how KC beat the Bengals in the NFC Championship with 42 yards total rushing on 20 attempts......the difference was the QB play.

 

[Redline360]

The more I actually pay attention to AC posts the more I believe he's got to be just fn with us. No one can be that clueless about the sport

It's like debating someone who hasn't left the fantasy football world

 

[America's Cowboy]

The game was different in the 90's wherein rushing was the priority whereas today the passing game has taken over.....but if you need to compare the game 20 years ago to somehow defend Dak then that is your choice.....but it does not absolve Dak and his INT's costing Dallas both playoff games.

You lean on no rushing attack as the reason Dallas lost both those games.....funny how KC beat the Bengals in the NFC Championship with 42 yards total rushing on 20 attempts......the difference was the QB play.

You say Dak is not elite, but you expect him to carry the team with no running attack whatsoever and no receiving weapons. Make up your mind on what you truly want. There's only 1 Mahomes, but at least he has weapons to throw to, along with a very good Oline and some of the best coaches and playcallers.

 

[xwalker]

Dak is GOD we are blessed to have such a talented stud QB under center.

You're getting smarter...

 

[xwalker]

That was a proverbial "elite" game by Dak.

Sadly, his ability to play at the elite level consistently is lacking.

Or the 20022 offense in it's entirety was not consistent including the OC...

 

[xwalker]

Whats crazy is that no one thought of Dak as a world beater. Herbert got his arse whooped, no one is talking bout that, Brady got his arse whooped and no one bats na eye, and Josh Allen got his arse whooped and no one talks about that either. These qbs were supposed to be all world and Dak wasn't.

Yes, in the playoffs Josh Allen made an absurdly moronic pass that became an INT.

 

[xwalker]

You say Dak is not elite, but you expect him to carry the team with no running attack whatsoever and no receiving weapons. Make up your mind on what you truly want. There's only 1 Mahomes, but at least he has weapons to throw to, along with a very good Oline and some of the best coaches and playcallers.

@USArmyVet

Rushing vs Passing in the Modern era.

In the 2019 season the 49ers won a playoff game with their QB completing 6 passes...

They did that because their running game was dominant.

They made it to the Super Bowl with that formula.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Whats crazy is that no one thought of Dak as a world beater. Herbert got his arse whooped, no one is talking bout that, Brady got his arse whooped and no one bats na eye, and Josh Allen got his arse whooped and no one talks about that either. These qbs were supposed to be all world and Dak wasn't.

Exactly!!!

I'm sick and tired of the hypocrite, backstabbing supposed "Cowboys fans" who do nothing but attack Dak while claiming he's not elite. Yet, those other teams' QBs who they do call elite sucked just as badly or worse than Dak did, yet these Dak haters who are supposedly Cowboys fans say absolutely nothing!!!

Go find another team to follow, fake fans!

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Exactly!!!

I'm sick and tired of the hypocrite, backstabbing supposed "Cowboys fans" who do nothing but attack Dak while claiming he's not elite. Yet, those other teams' QBs who they do call elite sucked just as badly or worse than Dak did, yet these Dak haters who are supposedly Cowboys fans say absolutely nothing!!!

Go find another team to follow, fake fans!

Some of the criticism is warranted, but hating on the guy like he does absolutely nothing right is foolish. At this point I don't think Dak will ever be able yo change their minds even if he wins a SB.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

You're getting smarter...

How are they treating you these difficult days over at Dak's PR office?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

@USArmyVet

Rushing vs Passing in the Modern era.

In the 2019 season the 49ers won a playoff game with their QB completing 6 passes...

They did that because their running game was dominant.

They made it to the Super Bowl with that formula.

You Dak-stans and all we hear from you guys are words like Formulas, stats, the team, or the coaching but in the end, when facing difficult top teams all our eyes see is a TURD QB out there who is blind as a bat, and can't score if his life depended on it!
Now you keep them theories going but unfortunately, our eyes will continue to see the same turd out there in panic mouthbreathing mode throwing into double coverage or another inaccurate pass.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

NO RUSHING ATTACK WHATSOEVER DURING BOTH PLAYOFF LOSSES.

Calm down Tad, you are going to bust a blood vessel if you keep this up

 

[5Stars]

Looking for places to throw Int's.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

OK, let me make this clear:

Peyton “broke through” because the DB rules changed after 2004, when NE DBs battered his WRs. The illegal contact and PI ruled were adjusted. All contact after 5 yards was pretty strictly tightened and enforced and this gavd birth of the speedy and small WR.

Dak would probably set the record for INTs in that era, as he needs major separation for his WRs. He couldn’t work with Dez and imagine him trying to toss a ball when a WR like Michael Irvin was battling for position against DBs in the Aikman timing-based offense era.

Dak is not breaking through anything in arguably the most QB friendly era of all time.

Guys like Elway, Aikman, Fouts and Marino would absolutely annihilate this league.

Steve Young was putting up 2023 Qb numbers in 1994

4300 total yards, 42 total TDS, 7 INTs, 8.6 ypa, 112 passer rating

Could you imagine what he’d look like today if he were throwing to Deebo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk, Christian Mccaffrey, and George Kittle