Dak ranked 1 QB in passer success based on Week 1

[JD_KaPow]

Our rankings factor accuracy, passing yardage, touchdown/interception ratio and team result. They are passer ratings only and do not include a QB’s running statistics.

It is effectively a variant on the NFL’s passer rating stat

This seems really goofy. What do they mean by team result and why do they include it? Why TD/INT ratio instead of TD% and INT%? Why not include running stats or sacks? I mean, if you're not going to use passer rating, why develop something that has the same limitations as passer rating?

I'll take Football Outsiders' DYAR and DVOA over this, thanks. For the record, they had Dak 3rd in DYAR (the cumulative measure), behind Stafford and Mahomes. They had him 12th in DVOA (the rate measure), where he presumably suffers because of the dink-and-dunk nature (low YPA) of a lot of the passing on Thursday. The INT hurts too.

 

[DFWJC]

Dak wasn't good. He was great.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

This seems like the QB equivalent of getting a people's choice award instead of an Oscar.

 

[Aftershock]

Awesome. Amazing. Now go throw a Dak party.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

When did Matt Ryan enter the conversation?

Stafford put up a near-perfect game...almost flawless.
Ryan sucked
Not remotely in the same conversation.

He was awful

Stafford also played the Chicago Bears.

 

[DFWJC]

Stafford also played the Chicago Bears.

I hear you.

fwiw....They did have a higher-rated pass defense than the Bucs last year.

But the overall team is not in the same conversation

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This seems really goofy. What do they mean by team result and why do they include it? Why TD/INT ratio instead of TD% and INT%? Why not include running stats or sacks? I mean, if you're not going to use passer rating, why develop something that has the same limitations as passer rating?

I'll take Football Outsiders' DYAR and DVOA over this, thanks. For the record, they had Dak 3rd in DYAR (the cumulative measure), behind Stafford and Mahomes. They had him 12th in DVOA (the rate measure), where he presumably suffers because of the dink-and-dunk nature (low YPA) of a lot of the passing on Thursday. The INT hurts too.

I think its a stat that's to judge how a QB is PASSING the football.

 

[Rockport]

Dak obviously was the best QB in week 1. Brady right there behind him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I hear you.

fwiw....They did have a higher-rated pass defense than the Bucs last year.

But the overall team is not in the same conversation

I'm just basing it on what I saw on Sunday night. That secondary did not look good. Guys running wide open. Factor in all Stafford had to do was outscore Andy Dalton? It was a favorable matchup. I'm not taking anything away from Stafford. He looked real scary. I was one of his doubters this offseason because I think he is exactly what he's shown us which is a good but not great quarterback. But he was great Sunday night regardless of competition. But its night and day against the Buccs are far as competition goes.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak obviously was the best QB in week 1. Brady right there behind him.

And Dak didn't have the pleasure of facing the Cowboys defense lol.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I think its a stat that's to judge how a QB is PASSING the football.

I don't see anything suggesting it's better than the stat we already have that measures passing (the passer rating), and when it includes "team result," that sure sounds like it's trying to measure something more than QB passing.

Plus, in what world are sacks unrelated to QB passing? Well, he completed 4 passes for 100 yards and a TD, but also stood back there and got sacked 10 times for 100 yards and a couple fumbles, isn't he great?

And why do we want to measure only a slice of QB performance anyway, while ignoring all the other stuff?

 

[OldJarhead]

Just another silly QBR kind of rating system. He played a good game. Not perfect, not bad. The bad thing is he has a crappy OC and a poor Defense. It was a winnable ball game.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don't see anything suggesting it's better than the stat we already have that measures passing (the passer rating), and when it includes "team result," that sure sounds like it's trying to measure something more than QB passing.

Plus, in what world are sacks unrelated to QB passing? Well, he completed 4 passes for 100 yards and a TD, but also stood back there and got sacked 10 times for 100 yards and a couple fumbles, isn't he great?

And why do we want to measure only a slice of QB performance anyway, while ignoring all the other stuff?

Oh I don't think its better honestly. Well I mean I guess its somewhat better than Passer Rating.

And to most sacks are a reflection of the offensive line not the QB....I mean I guess there's a way to decipher if its the fault of the QB or the line......much harder to do though.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak obviously was the best QB in week 1. Brady right there behind him.

Kyler Murray wins the award for best Week 1 QB.

 

[ChuckA1]

Interesting. All I've heard all week is how good Herbert is.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Interesting. All I've heard all week is how good Herbert is.

Beating up a piss poor WFT team will do that lol. People want to crown him though so it is only inevitable....they will talk about how bad our defense is but if he lights it up then all of a sudden it means something more than what it was.

 

[RaZon]

Russell Wilson the best week one QB he won big on the road.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Oh I don't think its better honestly. Well I mean I guess its somewhat better than Passer Rating.

And to most sacks are a reflection of the offensive line not the QB....I mean I guess there's a way to decipher if its the fault of the QB or the line......much harder to do though.

Since I don't know how it's calculated, I have no idea if it's better than passer rating (although including "team result" really has me doubting). Sure, the OL has some responsibility for sacks, but QBs who stand back there too long are at least partially to blame. And it's not like the formula accounts for the behind-the-LOS screen pass to a running back that ends up going for an 80-yard TD. The QB is given full credit for that.

 

[ChuckA1]

Dak played lights out against the SB winning team after an 11 month hiatus. Cowboys fans should be thrilled, period.

 

[Rockport]

Just another silly QBR kind of rating system. He played a good game. Not perfect, not bad. The bad thing is he has a crappy OC and a poor Defense. It was a winnable ball game.

He played a great game.