Dak since his return

[Slick]

Ok, so all the owners are stupid and shouldn’t do it, nice. Write them a letter lol let them know how you feel.

This isn’t a Jerry thing bro everyone in the top 14 gets paid. That means take out the 4/5 elite guys there are still 9/10 non elite dudes that get paid the big bucks. SUPPLY and DEMAND.

You’re operating in a world of what should be, not what is. Shake your fist at the sky all you want, just know anyone who’s a top 14 is getting a top tier deal. It’s just how the market works. If you don’t get the QB market just say it, it’s no big deal. Like it’s not an opinion lol all top 14 QB’s get big extensions. Like literally every single one.

Sure there should be a middle class of contracts but there isn’t and won’t be. So keep shaking that fist bud, I’m sure the leagues owners will listen and the market will change.

Eventually there has to be changes. I follow F1 way more then the Cowboys and even they went to a cap system which would have been unheard of 10yrs ago.

I am not shaking at anything, I'm not that invested, but if it was me, and you can go look at all my posts, I said the Dak contract was an anchor and stupid.

 

[Reid1boys]

The only stat i look at is 3-1....need to make it 4 on turkey day. Only stat that matters. This is a team game, remember? That's what i kept hearing when Dallas loses.

sure it is a team game... but if the Chiefs had almost any other qb in th eleague last week, they lose to the Chargers.

The difference between 7-10 and 13-4 is 100% the QB.

 

[CWR]

When your run game, OL and defense are dominant the league is littered with QBs who can do what he did.

If they can all keep that level of play then they can win a title with Dak Prescott. If at any point they can't and more of the burden falls on the QB they can not win. It's that simple because he's a fraud.

Carson Wentz couldn't do it.

 

[Slick]

I majored in Economics in college. One of the cornerstone tenets of Economics is "Fair Market Value." Fair Market Value is built upon the concept that a thing is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. By definition, every playing in the NFL is worth whatever they are getting paid. Because they are getting paid it. Your assessment of what a player is worth will matter when you buy a team and start paying them. Until then, you can only speak for yourself. And like it or not, your voice doesn't matter. You're mad about Dak's contract.. that's your prerogative. I don't waste any emotional energy on another man's paycheck.

I'm not wasting any emotions on this, but there is a salary cap in place today in the NFL . That's a reality and fact.

Paychecks have to be accounted for fielding a team and has future implications. I'm not mad at Dak or his pay. I make a very good living and don't need more than I have. That's got nothing to do with it.

I personally don't think it was a smart decision, and that is my opinion which last I checked I'm entlitled to just like you are entitled to yours. Yours doesn't matter more. So to sum up, the cap is real, and ultimately impacts the product on the field. Per player FMV does have implications.

Jerry wants a super bowl, and stupid decisions overpaying certain contracts effects that.

 

[817Gill]

Eventually there has to be changes. I follow F1 way more then the Cowboys and even they went to a cap system which would have been unheard of 10yrs ago.

I am not shaking at anything, I'm not that invested, but if it was me, and you can go look at all my posts, I said the Dak contract was an anchor and stupid.

If it changes great, but just know that you’re calling the QB market stupid. Making it exclusively about Dak and the FO when this is just standard league protocol is what confuses me.

You have every right to want to see a change in how QB contracts are done. But to act like this FO did something stupid when it’s something that every other franchise does makes no sense. It’s standard operating procedure.

 

[Slick]

That seems like an extreme exaggeration. Zeke is essentially league average at this point, and Dak is well above that this season.

Even if you use the “known quantity” as you referenced you can go back to last year where he was top 10 in just about every stat out there despite playing through a leg injury the 2nd half of the year that robbed his mobility.

Starts have to be referenced to something. How are his stats against winning teams vs the NFC East?

He's played historically weak teams twice a year for most of his career, yet has one playoff win.

 

[Slick]

If it changes great, but just know that you’re calling the QB market stupid. Making it exclusively about Dak and the FO when this is just standard league protocol is what confuses me.

You have every right to want to see a change in how QB contracts are done. But to act like this FO did something stupid when it’s something that every other franchise does makes no sense. It’s standard operating procedure.

You don't think this FO is dumber than most of the others?

 

[RonnieT24]

If it changes great, but just know that you’re calling the QB market stupid. Making it exclusively about Dak and the FO when this is just standard league protocol is what confuses me.

You have every right to want to see a change in how QB contracts are done. But to act like this FO did something stupid when it’s something that every other franchise does makes no sense. It’s standard operating procedure.

Exactly.. Hell *I* want this escalating QB market to get corrected. I don't think for one second they should be making as much as they're making. Hell the only ones who should be making top dollar IMHO are Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson because they essentially are playing two positions for their teams.. QB AND RB.. Guys who just stand in the pocket and throw the ball are frankly less valuable to me because they depend more on others than Allen and Jackson do. I don't know how it gets fixed but I sincerely hope it does. You would think all these QBs would look at Brady's 7 rings, while never being the highest paid anything and see the light.. Take less money, have better teammates and win championships.. but alas that is not the way it has worked out. I don't like it either.. but I aint spendin a ton of time worrying about it.

 

[Risen Star]

Carson Wentz couldn't do it.

U mad?

 

[817Gill]

You don't think this FO is dumber than most of the others?

In certain ways, but not by paying their franchise QB lol that’s something everyone does. Unless you think Dak’s not a top 14 QB (which is objectively false) I don’t see why you would be blaming the FO for signing him to a market value deal.

Overall, we are one of the better drafting teams and are about to hit back to back 10 win seasons and playoff appearances. Recently, this has been an above average FO. From about 97-2013 this was a bottom 10 FO no doubt.

At this point the only thing they do stupider than others is maybe media and FA. If we are going by how things are going currently/in the last few years it’s definitely not dumber than most lol.

How can you be dumber than most and draft this well? That alone makes them above average. I’d say in totality they are probably a 10-14 ranked FO.

 

[817Gill]

Exactly.. Hell *I* want this escalating QB market to get corrected. I don't think for one second they should be making as much as they're making. Hell the only ones who should be making top dollar IMHO are Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson because they essentially are playing two positions for their teams.. QB AND RB.. Guys who just stand in the pocket and throw the ball are frankly less valuable to me because they depend more on others than Allen and Jackson do. I don't know how it gets fixed but I sincerely hope it does. You would think all these QBs would look at Brady's 7 rings, while never being the highest paid anything and see the light.. Take less money, have better teammates and win championships.. but alas that is not the way it has worked out. I don't like it either.. but I aint spendin a ton of time worrying about it.

Beautifully said Ronnie!

 

[cnuball21]

Starts have to be referenced to something. How are his stats against winning teams vs the NFC East?

He's played historically weak teams twice a year for most of his career, yet has one playoff win.

He’s 25-6 against the NFCE for his so not sure about winning teams but this is more of a team stat IMO.

If you think the W/L column in the playoffs is solely the QBs responsibility and not a team effort I imagine there are a lot of good QBs you think aren’t good.

 

[McKDaddy]

I also take the emotion out of it when evaluating players.

Right, it's how well the guy did his job.

 

[CWR]

U mad?

I'm not the one who claimed he's going to be the next Brady.

Your victory lap is him holding a trophy for a game he didn't come remotely close to playing in.

Point is, no one should pretend you have any ability to analyze the position. Sorry my guy, you can't sarcasm away that stench. I do enjoy the entertainment of your efforts nonetheless. TYFYS

 

[Risen Star]

I'm not the one who claimed he's going to be the next Brady.

Your victory lap is him holding a trophy for a game he didn't come remotely close to playing in.

Point is, no one should pretend you have any ability to analyze the position. Sorry my guy, you can't sarcasm away that stench. I do enjoy the entertainment of your efforts nonetheless. TYFYS

He's mad.

Prescott accepting Zeke's engagement ring just doesn't have the same impact.

 

[Cowboyny]

Dak was a hard read last year. Looked like an MVP candidate the first half of the season then after the leg injury I think he lost some of the athleticism that helps him extend plays and he wasn’t as effective.

So far so good this, hoping he can stay healthy and get hot end of season.

Last year was all about the team's inability to run the football and leading the league in penalties.

 

[Whyjerry]

Since coming back, Dak is now 7th in QB efficiency, 5th in EPA per play and the O is averaging 35 points per game.

https://rbsdm.com/stats/stats/

For reference, Dak was 14th in efficiency last year and 12th in EPA / play. Appeared fairly rusty early on but has gotten a little sharper with more snaps and appears to be returning to form.

Wait I thought Dak sucks. He doesn't suck? Lots here claim he really sucks.

 

[phildadon86]

Of course! Just like it helps all QBs in the league.

Not named Zach Wilson.

 

[cnuball21]

Right, it's how well the guy did his job.

100% agree

 

[cnuball21]

Last year was all about the team's inability to run the football and leading the league in penalties.

Yea, the OL broke down end of year and that really killed us. Especially in the playoffs.