Dak to Dez

[Proof]

Prescott today
to Bryant 6 of 11 (54.5%) 73 yd 0 td 0 int 75.2
to everybody else 15 of 20 (75.0%) 176 yd 2 td 0 int 134.5

season
to Bryant 38 of 75 (50.7%) 439 yd 4 td 2 int 75.4
to everybody else 126 of 183 (68.9%) 1363 yd 12 td 2 int 107.7

Share of 258 Targeted Attempts
Bryant 29.1%
Witten 19.0%
Williams 15.9%
Beasley 14.7%

Y’all keep doing this. If it’s not too much trouble, could you break down the other receivers pcts? I have to think one or two guys is skewing it a bit.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

A lot of the Romo-Dez chemistry was created between 2010-13; when the Cowboys' o-line was still in construction phase and Garrett and Company were still allergic to the running game.

With Dak this is a run-first team; and when they throw, it's to whoever is open. T-Will had his big game today. Next week it could be Beasley. Dez Bryant is the same guy; he's just not getting force-fed anymore. And Dak's low completion percentage to Dez is only because of all the 50-50 jump balls thrown to him. The Cowboys don't do that with any of their other receivers.

 

[WillieBeamen]

A lot of the Romo-Dez chemistry was created between 2010-13; when the Cowboys' o-line was still in construction phase and Garrett and Company were still allergic to the running game.

With Dak this is a run-first team; and when they throw, it's to whoever is open. T-Will had his big game today. Next week it could be Beasley. Dez Bryant is the same guy; he's just not getting force-fed anymore. And Dak's low completion percentage to Dez is only because of all the 50-50 jump balls thrown to him. The Cowboys don't do that with any of their other receivers.

Great Post

 

[Verdict]

You guys can say what you want. Was Dez important in the win? Yeah he caught a few big first downs.

But if you boil it down TWill was a much more important piece of the puzzle and so was Beasley. Both of them did more with less.

Dez was targeted a lot today and only caught about half of his balls.

 

[River82]

Good game by Dez, good game by pretty much everyone. Except for the brain fade at the end of the first half that was almost the perfect game of football. Couldn't be happier to be honest

 

[flosho]

You guys can say what you want. Was Dez important in the win? Yeah he caught a few big first downs.

But if you boil it down TWill was a much more important piece of the puzzle and so was Beasley. Both of them did more with less.

Dez was targeted a lot today and only caught about half of his balls.

Agreed, but Twill has been mostly non-existent thus year. So 1 decent game is.. meh.

 

[percyhoward]

Y’all keep doing this. If it’s not too much trouble, could you break down the other receivers pcts? I have to think one or two guys is skewing it a bit.

I limited it to Dak's top 6 targeted receivers, and top 3 today.

Prescott today, to...
Bryant 6 of 11 (54.5%) 73 yd 0 td 0 int 75.2
Williams 9 of 9 (100%) 141 yd 0 td 0 int 118.7
Beasley 4 of 6 (66.7%) 24 yd 2 td 0 int 113.8

Prescott this season, to...
Bryant 38 of 75 (50.7%) 439 yd 4 td 2 int 75.4
Witten 35 of 48 (72.9%) 322 yd 3 td 0 int 111.6
Williams 30 of 41 (73.2%) 357 yd 0 td 1 int 89.2
Beasley 24 of 37 (64.9%) 165 yd 4 td 1 int 99.5
Elliott 19 of 26 (73.1%) 190 yd 2 td 0 int 119.0
Butler 9 of 16 (56.3%) 215 yd 2 td 0 int 140.6

Keep in mind, the guy with the 140.6 rating only has 16 of the 258 targeted attempts. So even when you remove his targets -- and not like there's any reason to do so anyway -- you can still see the disparity between Dez's targets and the others'.

Bryant 75.4
everybody else except Butler 104.0

And I don't post this stuff as a shot at Dez, who's been one of my favorite players for a long time. I just like knowing what's really going on with the team.

I'll put it this way, if this ever gets fixed, Dak moves to the top of the list of MVP candidates. That he can have a 75 rating to the guy who gets the greatest share of his targets, and still be in the Top 10 in passer rating, is remarkable.

 

[pacboyX]

Are we ignoring the fact that Dez faces opponents best DB consistently?

 

[Proof]

I limited it to Dak's top 6 targeted receivers, and top 3 today.

Prescott today, to...
Bryant 6 of 11 (54.5%) 73 yd 0 td 0 int 75.2
Williams 9 of 9 (100%) 141 yd 0 td 0 int 118.7
Beasley 4 of 6 (66.7%) 24 yd 2 td 0 int 113.8

Prescott this season, to...
Bryant 38 of 75 (50.7%) 439 yd 4 td 2 int 75.4
Witten 35 of 48 (72.9%) 322 yd 3 td 0 int 111.6
Williams 30 of 41 (73.2%) 357 yd 0 td 1 int 89.2
Beasley 24 of 37 (64.9%) 165 yd 4 td 1 int 99.5
Elliott 19 of 26 (73.1%) 190 yd 2 td 0 int 119.0
Butler 9 of 16 (56.3%) 215 yd 2 td 0 int 140.6

Keep in mind, the guy with the 140.6 rating only has 16 of the 258 targeted attempts. So even when you remove his targets -- and not like there's any reason to do so anyway -- you can still see the disparity between Dez's targets and the others'.

Bryant 75.4
everybody else except Butler 104.0

And I don't post this stuff as a shot at Dez, who's been one of my favorite players for a long time. I just like knowing what's really going on with the team.

I'll put it this way, if this ever gets fixed, Dak moves to the top of the list of MVP candidates. That he can have a 75 rating to the guy who gets the greatest share of his targets, and still be in the Top 10 in passer rating, is remarkable.

Appreciate you taking the time to do that. Nothing to really support my thoughts so I will crawl back in my hole.

 

[waving monkey]

My vote is for Noah Brown. He's Dez's physical clone. Just needs to figure it out.

Im I correct that NBrown lacks good speed?

 

[WillieBeamen]

Are we ignoring the fact that Dez faces opponents best DB consistently?

YEP

JENKINS
PETERSON
TALIB
PETERS
JOHNSON
NORMAN

All the Cbs Dez has lined up against so far this season

 

[perrykemp]

I know you all heard what Romo was saying about the Dak to Dez chemistry. He basically was saying that Dak keeps leading Dez, when Dez wants the jump ball, and he's 100% right.

I don't see Dez really out-jumping anyone anymore -- certainly not anywhere to the extent that we saw in his prime.

Heck today he had a <kind of> high ball that he jumped for skip off his hands.

I don't think throwing Dez Bryant jump balls is the solution to anything.

 

[perrykemp]

YEP

JENKINS
PETERSON
TALIB
PETERS
JOHNSON
NORMAN

All the Cbs Dez has lined up against so far this season

Did Peters cover Dez today? It probably happened, however, I didn't notice it much.

 

[percyhoward]

Are we ignoring the fact that Dez faces opponents best DB consistently?

He's faced some very good ones in 2017, but no, it's not normal for the WR1 to have a much lower passer rating on his targets than the rest of the team. At least not this deep into a season.

 

[CWR]

We can’t have Dez and Zeke out at the same time tho.

No Dez and they will load up on the run, no Zeke and they will load up on the pass. Neither of them and absolute chaos, Garret you sly son of gun.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I know you all heard what Romo was saying about the Dak to Dez chemistry. He basically was saying that Dak keeps leading Dez, when Dez wants the jump ball, and he's 100% right. I posted a tweet with all of Dez's TDs from Romo, and they were filled with those type of throws.

Let's keep that in mind the next time you Dez haters say he runs bad routes and he sucks...

That and the numerous times that Tony pointed out how good of a route Dez ran.

Route running isn't an issue for Dez. Hasn't been in years. Hand technique on the other hand has been. Today, he dropped some passes he should have caught, but he did make some tough catches.




YR

 

[big dog cowboy]

Prescott today
to Bryant 6 of 11 (54.5%) 73 yd 0 td 0 int 75.2
to everybody else 15 of 20 (75.0%) 176 yd 2 td 0 int 134.5

season
to Bryant 38 of 75 (50.7%) 439 yd 4 td 2 int 75.4
to everybody else 126 of 183 (68.9%) 1363 yd 12 td 2 int 107.7

Share of 258 Targeted Attempts
Bryant 29.1%
Witten 19.0%
Williams 15.9%
Beasley 14.7%

Thanks for this. You always deliver.

 

[waving monkey]

I limited it to Dak's top 6 targeted receivers, and top 3 today.

Prescott today, to...
Bryant 6 of 11 (54.5%) 73 yd 0 td 0 int 75.2
Williams 9 of 9 (100%) 141 yd 0 td 0 int 118.7
Beasley 4 of 6 (66.7%) 24 yd 2 td 0 int 113.8

Prescott this season, to...
Bryant 38 of 75 (50.7%) 439 yd 4 td 2 int 75.4
Witten 35 of 48 (72.9%) 322 yd 3 td 0 int 111.6
Williams 30 of 41 (73.2%) 357 yd 0 td 1 int 89.2
Beasley 24 of 37 (64.9%) 165 yd 4 td 1 int 99.5
Elliott 19 of 26 (73.1%) 190 yd 2 td 0 int 119.0
Butler 9 of 16 (56.3%) 215 yd 2 td 0 int 140.6

Keep in mind, the guy with the 140.6 rating only has 16 of the 258 targeted attempts. So even when you remove his targets -- and not like there's any reason to do so anyway -- you can still see the disparity between Dez's targets and the others'.

Bryant 75.4
everybody else except Butler 104.0

And I don't post this stuff as a shot at Dez, who's been one of my favorite players for a long time. I just like knowing what's really going on with the team.

I'll put it this way, if this ever gets fixed, Dak moves to the top of the list of MVP candidates. That he can have a 75 rating to the guy who gets the greatest share of his targets, and still be in the Top 10 in passer rating, is remarkable.

This game has to influence the future drafting

 

[xwalker]

I know you all heard what Romo was saying about the Dak to Dez chemistry. He basically was saying that Dak keeps leading Dez, when Dez wants the jump ball, and he's 100% right. I posted a tweet with all of Dez's TDs from Romo, and they were filled with those type of throws.

Let's keep that in mind the next time you Dez haters say he runs bad routes and he sucks...

Romo raved about TWill as being very underrated. He also raved about Lee and Witten

When it came to Dez he pointed out his low catch rate despite high opportunity numbers.

 

[xwalker]

I know you all heard what Romo was saying about the Dak to Dez chemistry. He basically was saying that Dak keeps leading Dez, when Dez wants the jump ball, and he's 100% right. I posted a tweet with all of Dez's TDs from Romo, and they were filled with those type of throws.

Let's keep that in mind the next time you Dez haters say he runs bad routes and he sucks...

The offense was rolling after Dez was out.