Dak vs Goff

Aulac said:
Apples to oranges comparison. Different situation, hell different rookie situations. Goff was thrown to the wolves while Dak had the best O-line in the league.

With that said, if Goff was a Cowboys, everyone would be defending him. It just something funny to think about from all the Dak's/Goff's homer/lover. :muttley:
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Couple of years of his idiotic play and I would demand to dump him and draft the next QB. There is no denying Goff never adjusted or learned the NFL game. There is no denying he was protected by McVay who threw in the towel. In Detroit without McVay he is a 1 win QB regardless of competition.

Goff will be replaced soon...when Detroit drafts their future QB ...
 
fivetwos said:
Stafford is slightly better than Goff. The difference in price in swapping them was hysterical and the Rams will eventually pay....and dearly.

Prescott, although not great, is better than both.
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You're smoking crack if you think Prescott is better than Stafford. Could you imagine that stiff in Detroit? He'd be out of the league by now.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
Couple of years of his idiotic play and I would demand to dump him and draft the next QB. There is no denying Goff never adjusted or learned the NFL game. There is no denying he was protected by McVay who threw in the towel. In Detroit without McVay he is a 1 win QB regardless of competition.

Goff will be replaced soon...when Detroit drafts their future QB ...
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Na Goff will be the best QB Detroit has ever had. Their best chance of ever winning a playoff game in the SB era is with Goff.
 
Risen Star said:
You're smoking crack if you think Prescott is better than Stafford. Could you imagine that stiff in Detroit? He'd be out of the league by now.
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Imagine Prescott having to throw to Golladay and Jones who can't get separation and require anticipation throws LMAO. Golladay and Jones don't even look good on other teams without Stafford. It crazy just how much folks here don't seem to even watch other NFL teams/games.
 
Aulac said:
Na Goff will be the best QB Detroit has ever had. Their best chance of ever winning a playoff game in the SB era is with Goff.
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Better than Stafford? The guy who they traded for? Really....no really??

You are all over the place. No logic. You argue each comment to win that argument without using any logic to pull your comments together.

You just made Goff the GOAT based on your comments in this thread alone...

All because you hate Dak....the true reason for OP
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
Better than Stafford? The guy who they traded for? Really....no really??

You are all over the place. No logic. You argue each comment to win that argument without using any logic to pull your comments together.

You just made Goff the GOAT based on your comments in this thread alone...

All because you hate Dak....the true reason for OP
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Yes Goff > Stafford. Stafford has the better arm talent, and the better stats (so does Kirk Cousins and Dak), but Goff is the better winner. Goff is more clutch in big moments. It not just about stats. Goff doesn't care about stats, he doesn't pad his stats.

Cousins has 27 TDS to 3 PICKS and Vikings fans can't wait to get rid of him. How does someone have that stats and the Vikings are 5-7? Does that even make sense to you? That Mahomes/Rodgers territority of stats. When Goff had 32 TD to 12 PICKS, they went to the SB. Stats don't tell everything.

Goff is not the GOAT, but his ceiling is very high. He just has to put it together. The arm talent is there. Watch him put it together and by next year, teams are going to want to trade for him. Teams need to see what Goff is like without McVay.
 
Aulac said:
It make total sense, Kirk like Dak put up empty stats. Explain to me how Kurt is 27 TDs and 3 picks (Mahomes number) yet the Vikings are 5-7, and Vikings fans want to get rid of Cousins?

QB like Goff don't put up crazy stat simply because they don't care about personal glory. However Goff has constantly outplayed Cousins in their matchups. You got one playoff game to win, you want Dak/Cousins/Mayfield or Goff as your QB?

There is a reason Goff has the 2nd most wins after Brady, and it ain't all McVay.
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That's sort of gibberish. Did you read what I wrote?
 
Aulac said:
He doesn't suck. The Rams got ride of him because he was inconsistent.

But his problems can be fix by having a coach that willing to develop him, instead of micro-managing him.
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Willing to develop him?

Goff was a #1 overall pick and is in his 6th year.

The time for development is over.

He sucks.
 
Aulac said:
Jared Goff outplayed Kirk Cousins and led the Lions on a game winning drive without his #1 weapon and RB in DeAndre Swift. Goff was also without his pro-bowl center in Frank Ragnow. In fact, the Lions O-line has never been healthy together for the year. The moment Taylor Decker came back, Ragnow went out with a season ending injury.

This beg the question. Has Dak ever done what Goff did, under the most dired of situation? Has Dak ever won a game without Zeke while being the underdog? Has Dak ever won a game without a #1 or #2 receiver? Has Dak ever won a game when the Cowboys season was on the line? The answer is clearly no, because he is not capable of that.

Anthony Lynn is an awful coordinator and coach, and the Lions got their first tie and win with Dan Campbell calling the plays, and he awful himself. Goff won inspite of MCDC coaching, he carried his coach and saved his career. It's no surprise that the moment the Lions got Goff a starting receiver (#3) in Reynolds, Goff has looked like a different QB entirely. He looked like 2018 Goff, being clutch, and without McVay. And despite not having a starting reciever (prior to Reynold), Goff has gotten the Lions multiple game winning drives only for the defense to allow the other teams to get a walk-off win.

The Lions would go O-17 with Dak Prescott as their QB. Don't let Dak's stat fool you, this Cowboys team is literally carrying him. No one does less with more.

Now imagine if Goff had Cooper, Lamb, and Gallup :eek:
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Cooper Rush beat the Vikings, in Minnesota, with a game winning drive. I guess he's better than Goff and Dak.

Stupid threads abound in this place. :rolleyes:
 
kskboys said:
That's why I don't parttake. You should consider refraining yourself.
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If you think Clayton and Duper (aka the Marks/Marx Brothers) were just decent, you either know nothing about the NFL, have a terrible memory, or have some type of mental disturbance. Maybe you just hate the Dolphins. I guess only you know for sure..
 
Lol, I don’t think the OP is serious. Goff was in LA and had a whole team over there and didn’t do anything. What makes you think he’d win here? What happened when Dak was hurt last year?
 
Aulac said:
Jared Goff outplayed Kirk Cousins and led the Lions on a game winning drive without his #1 weapon and RB in DeAndre Swift. Goff was also without his pro-bowl center in Frank Ragnow. In fact, the Lions O-line has never been healthy together for the year. The moment Taylor Decker came back, Ragnow went out with a season ending injury.

This beg the question. Has Dak ever done what Goff did, under the most dired of situation? Has Dak ever won a game without Zeke while being the underdog? Has Dak ever won a game without a #1 or #2 receiver? Has Dak ever won a game when the Cowboys season was on the line? The answer is clearly no, because he is not capable of that.

Anthony Lynn is an awful coordinator and coach, and the Lions got their first tie and win with Dan Campbell calling the plays, and he awful himself. Goff won inspite of MCDC coaching, he carried his coach and saved his career. It's no surprise that the moment the Lions got Goff a starting receiver (#3) in Reynolds, Goff has looked like a different QB entirely. He looked like 2018 Goff, being clutch, and without McVay. And despite not having a starting reciever (prior to Reynold), Goff has gotten the Lions multiple game winning drives only for the defense to allow the other teams to get a walk-off win.

The Lions would go O-17 with Dak Prescott as their QB. Don't let Dak's stat fool you, this Cowboys team is literally carrying him. No one does less with more.

Now imagine if Goff had Cooper, Lamb, and Gallup :eek:
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All I know is that I have less albeit 20 seconds less useful time after reading your post. But …you are just not smart
 
Aulac said:
Imagine Prescott having to throw to Golladay and Jones who can't get separation and require anticipation throws LMAO. Golladay and Jones don't even look good on other teams without Stafford. It crazy just how much folks here don't seem to even watch other NFL teams/games.
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What exactly do you watch on Sundays?

ALL Dak does is throw into tight windows with timing.

Just bc it hasn't been perfect lately doesn't give you the right to change reality.
 
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