Dak vs. Romo The Money Stats

[jblaze2004]

It just seems that the talent around Dak has made him better whereas Romo made the talent around him better.

Yeah because having prime time Gold Jacket Witten for all of his career, some of the top offensive lines, T.O, Dez, DeMarco Murray and etc. I think one thing we have failed Dak with is a good/great reliable TE. A good TE is a security blanket for a QB and Witten was definitely that for Romo.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Dak vs. Romo?

LOL.....

The four previous "franchise" quarterbacks, Meredith, Staubach, White and Aikman each crushed their combined playoff success.

Conference championship games or pre-merger NFL championship games (equivalent)

Meredith 2
Staubach 6
White 3
Aikman 4

Dak and Romo combined 0

That is the single most important statistic when evaluating the career of a Dallas Cowboys quarterback.

Anyone wanting to defend Dak and/or Romo by pointing out the inadequacy of their teammates are simply adding the lack of leadership to their career profiles.

One note, however:

Dak's career isn't over and I didn't say he couldn't do it. I'm just saying he hasn't done it yet and time is running out.

Statistical facts ^^^^

But those teams for Meredith, Staubach, White and Aikman for loaded and so much better as well. It's important to point that out.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Romo is levels above Dak as a quarterback

There is nothing Dak does on the field better than Romo did

 

[morat1959]

Such a sad state of affairs as to where this franchise has fallen. 2 QBs with no chance of ever taking a team to the dance. We have sucked for a long time!

 

[sunalsorises]

Yeah because having prime time Gold Jacket Witten for all of his career, some of the top offensive lines, T.O, Dez, DeMarco Murray and etc. I think one thing we have failed Dak with is a good/great reliable TE. A good TE is a security blanket for a QB and Witten was definitely that for Romo.

Romo didn't have a good offensive line until near the end of his career and he never had a defense.

Jason Witten is the Greek God of the Y-option route.

I know the numbers won't bear it but Marion Barber III was better than DeMarco Murray who was good for that one season in Dallas.

Romo made Dez. He extended Terry Glenn's career. He got Miles Austin a big contract.

Did Dak kill Zeke?

 

[plasticman]

Statistical facts ^^^^

But those teams for Meredith, Staubach, White and Aikman for loaded and so much better as well. It's important to point that out.

Were they?

Were they better teams because they had superior talent to the teams of the 21st century?

What criteria are we using to determine that those teams were better?

Are we using success as the criteria? Yes, they were more successful but was it talent that made them more successful than their competitors? They drafted in the bottom third for 20 years. How were they able to achieve their success from a less talented pool of players overall?

You may want to point to the three times the Cowboys had the #1 or #2 overall pick in the draft as proof but that would be a mistake.

The Cowboys didn't get those picks for free. Twice they traded one of their #1 draft picks including the last player they drafted in the top 5 during the late 60's. The other top pick cost a handful of draft picks and players.

The recent teams have had several opportunities to succeed. Their opportunities were just as legitimate as the teams of the 70's and 90's.

There have been recent Cowboys teams that have surpassed successful 70's teams when ranked in offense, defense or both.

The Cowboys have been ranked #1 offensively in either points or yards or both in three of the last six seasons.

The Cowboys defense has been ranked #7 or higher in 5 of the last 9 seasons.

In the early 80's the Cowboys went to the conference championship game with a 17th and a 20th ranked defense.

The 90's Cowboys won two Super Bowls when their defense was ranked 9th and 10th.

Some of the most recent teams had just as many Pro Bowlers and All-Pros. They have had just as many surprise rookie free agents.

Over the past 10 seasons, the Cowboys have 40 Pro Bowls and 13 1st team All-Pros.

For the ten seasons from 1970 to 1979, during which they won 5 NFC championships and 2 Super bowls, the Cowboys had 37 Pro Bowlers and 8 1st team All-Pros.

The only difference between the three eras is the teams of the 70's and 90's got it done and 21st century teams didn't get it done. The reason is there for all to see.

The team of the 70's and 90's had a culture supported by strong management, great team leaders and coaching. These current versions are a disgrace to their legacy.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Were they?

Were they better teams because they had superior talent to the teams of the 21st century?

What criteria are we using to determine that those teams were better?

Are we using success as the criteria? Yes, they were more successful but was it talent that made them more successful than their competitors? They drafted in the bottom third for 20 years. How were they able to achieve their success from a less talented pool of players overall?

You may want to point to the three times the Cowboys had the #1 or #2 overall pick in the draft as proof but that would be a mistake.

The Cowboys didn't get those picks for free. Twice they traded one of their #1 draft picks including the last player they drafted in the top 5 during the late 60's. The other top pick cost a handful of draft picks and players.

The recent teams have had several opportunities to succeed. Their opportunities were just as legitimate as the teams of the 70's and 90's.

There have been recent Cowboys teams that have surpassed successful 70's teams when ranked in offense, defense or both.

The Cowboys have been ranked #1 offensively in either points or yards or both in three of the last six seasons.

The Cowboys defense has been ranked #7 or higher in 5 of the last 9 seasons.

In the early 80's the Cowboys went to the conference championship game with a 17th and a 20th ranked defense.

The 90's Cowboys won two Super Bowls when their defense was ranked 9th and 10th.

Some of the most recent teams had just as many Pro Bowlers and All-Pros. They have had just as many surprise rookie free agents.

Over the past 10 seasons, the Cowboys have 40 Pro Bowls and 13 1st team All-Pros.

For the ten seasons from 1970 to 1979, during which they won 5 NFC championships and 2 Super bowls, the Cowboys had 37 Pro Bowlers and 8 1st team All-Pros.

The only difference between the three eras is the teams of the 70's and 90's got it done and 21st century teams didn't get it done. The reason is there for all to see.

The team of the 70's and 90's had a culture supported by strong management, great team leaders and coaching. These current versions are a disgrace to their legacy.

List the names of Cowboys players from the 70s and 90s. Go ahead. List them.

Guaranteed those players were much better players than the ones we have had during the Romo and Dak years.

Come one. You like typing, so go ahead and List all of those 70s and 90s teams players. I am willing to bet they were by far better players than the ones from the last 18 years.

 

[plasticman]

List the names of Cowboys players from the 70s and 90s. Go ahead. List them.

Guaranteed those players were much better players than the ones we have had during the Romo and Dak years.

Come one. You like typing, so go ahead and List all of those 70s and 90s teams players. I am willing to bet they were by far better players than the ones from the last 18 years.

But think about it.....

Why do we remember them as being great?

Most of the O-line were midround draft picks in a 17-round draft.

Their greatest receivers during the first three decades was a 7th round draft pick and a free agent former college quarterback that didn't get picked in 17 rounds.

What great recent Cowboys WR wasn't drafted in the first round?

The defensive line had studs but i see our defensive line today has two 1st round draft picks and one is a perennial 1st team All-Pro.

We remember most of those players because they were part of championship teams and not because of great individual accomplishments.

There have been a couple of occasions in which the recent Cowboys were one or two plays away from being in a conference championship game.

There have been a couple of occasions in which the Cowboys of the 70's were one or two plays away from not being in a conference championship games.

One team made enough of those critical plays and the other did not. When it comes down to it, that is the only difference.

I hate typing but i love to discuss the Cowboys with folks like you. Still, I'm not doing a great job of explaining my reasoning.

In the end, I guess I am saying, yes, those players back then were much better than the ones today in several ways but I don't think actual talent is the difference.

Besides, Landry created his offenses and defense to function efficiently without superior talent. The key was strict adherence to his system which was based on reacting to the actions of the opponent.

Yeah, this is too much, but you deserve an explanation.

 

[America's Cowboy]

But think about it.....

Why do we remember them as being great?

Most of the O-line were midround draft picks in a 17-round draft.

Their greatest receivers during the first three decades was a 7th round draft pick and a free agent former college quarterback that didn't get picked in 17 rounds.

What great recent Cowboys WR wasn't drafted in the first round?

The defensive line had studs but i see our defensive line today has two 1st round draft picks and one is a perennial 1st team All-Pro.

We remember most of those players because they were part of championship teams and not because of great individual accomplishments.

There have been a couple of occasions in which the recent Cowboys were one or two plays away from being in a conference championship game.

There have been a couple of occasions in which the Cowboys of the 70's were one or two plays away from not being in a conference championship games.

One team made enough of those critical plays and the other did not. When it comes down to it, that is the only difference.

I hate typing but i love to discuss the Cowboys with folks like you. Still, I'm not doing a great job of explaining my reasoning.

In the end, I guess I am saying, yes, those players back then were much better than the ones today in several ways but I don't think actual talent is the difference.

Besides, Landry created his offenses and defense to function efficiently without superior talent. The key was strict adherence to his system which was based on reacting to the actions of the opponent.

Yeah, this is too much, but you deserve an explanation.

You fail badly at realizing what or who made those players great. Players who were not drafted in the 1st round like many of today's players are but fail to help the team get past the division round in the playoffs. That is what is missing in today's teams. You guys just concentrate or believe that drafting key players at key positions in the 1st round is going to lift this team in the playoffs, yet they keep falling short while you fail to realize what truly made those 70s and 90s players great.

 

[ATXSRT]

Romo elevated everyone around him. How many times did he take a no named WR and make him a pro-bowler? Whereas Dak needs all-pros around him to look decent at best. 2016 was our last time we had a shot. Jerrah had to ruin it because he had his new shiny toy he wanted to show off to everyone. Little did he know it was fools gold.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Romo elevated everyone around him. How many times did he take a no named WR and make him a pro-bowler? Whereas Dak needs all-pros around him to look decent at best. 2016 was our last time we had a shot. Jerrah had to ruin it because he had his new shiny toy he wanted to show off to everyone. Little did he know it was fools gold.

Not true ^^^^

Let's see...

Name those "no name" receivers whom Romo turned into a Pro-Bowler?

**tick tock ... tick tock ... tick tock**

I will help you...

Only 1: Miles Austin. And only for 1 year: 2009.

Don't believe me? Here you go...

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/lineups.htm

Same goes for Dak. Only 1 "no name" receiver did he make into a Pro-Bowler...

Jake Ferguson (2023).

As you can see, you are absolutely wrong, so please stop spreading lies and making up falsehoods.