Daks accuracy is a curse or a blessing?

and all of those slow starts are Dak's fault? nothing to do with coaches? how they call the game? our scheme? making the wrong crucial call in the games.....and to prove you wrong..here is the starts in all of our losses

Saints: Cowboys down 9-3 at half time.....wow a whole points down...how many botched calls in that game...that one is fully on coaches and their stupidity...
GB: cowboys down 17-0 at half. Yes, that was a bad start and lots of missed opportunities in the first half.
Jets: cowboys down 21-6 at half.....that was one of the worst coached games I have ever seen this staff do. offensively, defensively, special teams. you could see the frustration in players eyes by the 3rd quarter, and thinking *** are the coaches doing
Minn: down 17-14 at half time.
NE: Down 10-6 at half time....that was another badly coached game....awful awful awful...garrett should have been fired right after that game
Bills: down 13-7 half time...and in fact dallas was up 7-0 at the end of first quarter
Bears - Down 17-7 at half time, but dallas was leading 7-0 at the end of first quarter.....and that was another badly coached game. I felt so sorry for Smith, who was always caught in no man's land and was targeted all night. Richard and Marinelli should have been fired at half time
Eagles: down 10-6 at half time.....another poor game plan, offensively we had no idea what to do, making random calls, seemed like Moore and Garrett were fighting each other all game...


so this fallacy of he spots the other team 10-14 points is total BS as its obvious...but hey, that's how the spin goes.
I never spin.

No more than what you are posting.

In my posts..I never absolutely take a position I can not take back if I am convinced otherwise.

I listen to you guys...my downfall.

But after 50+ years of following this franchise thru the really good times and the bad..

I have a lengthy history to fall back on.

Like back in 1966 when we first went to the NFC Championship. We had reserved seats. Back then I was on the football team as a freshman.

I played both ways..TE and LBer. We were playing a game and this huge FB comes around end and spats me. I go down in a heap and I heard my knee pop.

They had to come get me. Football was over for me, had a knee operation.

So when the Championship game for Dallas comes along, I am in a leg cast and wheelchair and crutches.

We go to the game and they put me in the special handicap section in the endzone down on the wall.

I am maybe 20 yards from the back line. Clear view.

So the game starts and it's back and forth.. Starr and Meredith put on a QB clinic.

We fall behind with 2 minutes to play and Meredith starts the drive. We are all getting hysterical as we see them getting to our endzone.

It's 4th down and the 2 yd line.

Landry calls time out to discuss the play. People's eyes are bugging out. We are going to win and go to the 1st ever SB.

Meredith takes the snap and rolls right and is pursued by the Packer defense.

I can clearly see Meredith'a eyes panicked as he looks for a receiver.

Frank Clarke the TE runs across the back of the endzone and Dandy throws.

It's intercepted and the game ends.

What a memory. I sulked all the way back to the car listening to transistor radio we had doing the post game report.

Little did I know the Ice Bowl was coming the next year.

These were the greatest days of the Franchise.

It's very beginning.

:thumbup:

 
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I don’t generally think of either accuracy or slow starts as being particular problems for Dak. He has trouble hitting players in stride on crossing routes, and he can’t throw a decent fade. But overall, he’s plenty accurate.

He was labeled as inaccurate coming out of college, but I don’t see it in his game anymore. He makes a ton of big time throws.

I consider that part of accuracy. Deep balls are inherently low odd passes. The fact he has his receivers having to make plays on the ball short or intermediate is accuracy issue.
 
Are you telling me receivers can adjust to the ball and make the catch anyway? Even if it is a bad throw? I never knew that.

I wonder if some of these guys calling Dak inaccurate know he might be placing the ball where he's placing it, because he don't want to get his receivers killed. I wonder if they know Dak might have to throw the ball off target on purpose, because there was a defender in the throwing lane.

What I'm telling you is that to be a QB in today's NFL you must be able to toss the pigskin through a paper target at 80 yards or you simply can't play. If you can't do that you may as well spot them 10-14 points up front. I believe it's the real reason Andrew Luck retired. He like others before him couldn't cope with the demands of the NFL Skills Challenge nor the Quicken Loans SB halftime show. Fortunately along with CeeDee, Jerry bought Dak a Big Chief tablet to help improve his accuracy, and a ginger to keep his arm fresh.
 
I consider that part of accuracy. Deep balls are inherently low odd passes. The fact he has his receivers having to make plays on the ball short or intermediate is accuracy issue.

I do, too. I didn’t take the time to say it, but almost all QBs have issues with specific types of passes. So, yeah, he definitely needs to work on those throws, but they don’t make him less accurate than other QBs. On the whole, though, accuracy isn’t really an issue with Dak.
 
Dak's passes reminds me of that old saying..
.."The shortest distance between two points is a curved line."
Yeah..

They remind me of that old kids rhyme..

" The worm go in the worms go out, they never stop".

His passes where he mistimes his throw go everywhere but the receiver. In front, behind, in the ground, over their heads..

usually wide open too.

It's frustrating after guys like Aikman who would throw 20 times but complete 18.

Dak, people are just delerious if he gets his first read right. They say he is Uber and worth every penny.

Right.

:thumbup:
 
and all of those slow starts are Dak's fault? nothing to do with coaches? how they call the game? our scheme? making the wrong crucial call in the games.....and to prove you wrong..here is the starts in all of our losses

Saints: Cowboys down 9-3 at half time.....wow a whole points down...how many botched calls in that game...that one is fully on coaches and their stupidity...
GB: cowboys down 17-0 at half. Yes, that was a bad start and lots of missed opportunities in the first half.
Jets: cowboys down 21-6 at half.....that was one of the worst coached games I have ever seen this staff do. offensively, defensively, special teams. you could see the frustration in players eyes by the 3rd quarter, and thinking *** are the coaches doing
Minn: down 17-14 at half time.
NE: Down 10-6 at half time....that was another badly coached game....awful awful awful...garrett should have been fired right after that game
Bills: down 13-7 half time...and in fact dallas was up 7-0 at the end of first quarter
Bears - Down 17-7 at half time, but dallas was leading 7-0 at the end of first quarter.....and that was another badly coached game. I felt so sorry for Smith, who was always caught in no man's land and was targeted all night. Richard and Marinelli should have been fired at half time
Eagles: down 10-6 at half time.....another poor game plan, offensively we had no idea what to do, making random calls, seemed like Moore and Garrett were fighting each other all game...


so this fallacy of he spots the other team 10-14 points is total BS as its obvious...but hey, that's how the spin goes.
I think you are missing my point.

Really you said more in your rely than I actually recall.

Thanks for taking the time.

Sooo...

What is going unsaid her is..

One of the major reasons this is all going down..

Dak leading the offense is going constantly 3 and out.

The ball goes back, usually with a short field to score by the other team.

And there are holding calls and pass penalties..Dak is not in control of this stuff.

But he has to overcome it to win.
 
This stuff goes on and on and the debate flames higher.

I want to mention something I posted in another thread..

we were discussing DAKs supposed accuracy and I said..

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Remember at the pre-SB interviews?

They asked him to throw at a target to show how accurate he was.

He barely could hit the wall much less the target.

He quickly left the interview and made a complete fool of himself.

I LMAO.

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I am sure some of you saw this SB week.

Dak lovers point to his high accuracy. Haters talk about throwing in the dirt, over throws in endzones and over receiver's heads.

I see both sides.

But what really throttles me with Dak is his perpetual slow starts.

He spots the other team 10-14 pts and then the other team goes to a prevent defense and we have to throw against soft coverage just to get within 3 points..

then half the time the FG guy would botch the kick and lose.

We had 8 losses last year. Half were like that.

So whether you love or hate Dak..if he gets the praise he also has to take the blame. Change the subject if you want to Garrett or Moore is the reason.

But Dak has the ability to change the play and do something but often..

Nothing really changes.

Should we be concerned with Dak and his in-game management as well?

Ok, enough.

Go ahead, flex your fingers and take a bite.

Consider this just a preseason fan feast.

Over to you.

:grin:

Dak is a below medicore QB.

We dont need to talk about this subject anymore.
 
I think you are missing my point.

Really you said more in your rely than I actually recall.

Thanks for taking the time.

Sooo...

What is going unsaid her is..

One of the major reasons this is all going down..

Dak leading the offense is going constantly 3 and out.

The ball goes back, usually with a short field to score by the other team.

And there are holding calls and pass penalties..Dak is not in control of this stuff.

But he has to overcome it to win.
OMG, you spin spin spin...first it was we are constantly down by 10-14 points and have to come back...that was proven to be totally wrong.....just a total spin on your part

now, you are saying the offense is constantly going 3 and out....which is again your perception (spin) and completely wrong.

and in fact its been proven, due to defensive short comings and the bad special teams, the cowboys offense had the longest distance to drive for scores, which made it difficult for the cowboys offense...

wow....just wow, how dak detractors make up craap on the fly to support their perceptions....

dallas was 21st, tied with GB on total number of drives (defense not getting the ball back)
dallas ranked second...yes, second in average yards per drive!!! at almost 40 yds/drive behind onlyu Baltimore at 41.77 this alone totally shatters your 3 and out perception..
dallas ranked 4th in points per drive!!!
in contrast dallas ranked 30th in starting field position per drive!!!! this is directly attributed to defense and special teams being craaapy
and lastly, dallas was 5th in number of plays per drive!!!

so your perception and spin is totally wrong once again..

btw, it took less than 5 minutes to get all of the information in my responses.
 
Dak is a below medicore QB.

We dont need to talk about this subject anymore.
But nobody wants to discuss Wolf Hunter's wolf count on his beaver pelts he collects.

Them beaver pelts are expensive. Costs a dinner and a bunch of flowers each date.

Nobody wants to speculate on that.

Now what..?

Big Mike's diet which ain't working?
 
You lost me right here, I stopped after this.

So it is all Dak's fault?
What about coaching and the rest of the offense and play execution, play calling, Garrett being stupid.

HOWEVER, is Dak out there playing defense to give up those points?

Come on, all this Dak crap is way too old.
Almost to the point I don't even want to look in as often as I do to get any real football news.

Think I will avoid anything on the front page anymore, unless it says SIGNED and posted by a MOD.

Only a Dak hater with an agenda would even type the words "Dak spotted them points"......
Why is it so hard to understand that ALL, and I mean ALL Qb's have bad games with slow starts and missed throws?
At some point in time you have to be able to look at the complete picture and learn to be more objective or else
whatever it is your selling is spoiled before it hits the shelf.

Dak is one of the most productive Qb's to come into the NFL in a long time in his short career, but keep telling yourself
that your betty davis eyes have a clear eye view and see better than guys in this league whom think Dak is close to
becoming elite.
 

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