Dak's career records

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i'm sorry but i'm not going to have this conversation, theres not a big gap between him and Prescott.. The gap for those payers we're from the team aspect. tom brady was not a first-round quarterback. it's ridiculous that's how we're judge players by their see there's busts in the first round... there's quite a few players past the....hat turned out to be pretty damn good..

the fact is troy Aikman threw a lot of INTS both in RS and playoffs and his touchdown interception ratio is much worse then daks. somehow, we keep forgetting this is a team record, the fact is troy had a much better team and coaches and yet made more mistakes...

i think what fans forget is they cove....ith their memories of the super bowls. much like matthew stafford throwing 20 interceptions with two in the super bowl. nobody seems to care or remember bec....team was good enough to overcome them....
This is blasphemy. Troy Aikman's accuracy - in practice and in games - was gushed on by no less than John Madden. He said he might be the most accurate QB he's ever seen. Are you freaking kidding me?
 

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10’s of thousands of posts in a relatively short period of time about one man. ;)

It can’t be explained is what you’re telling me.
The fact of the matter is that Dak has led the league on multiple occasions on turnovers, whether that be fumbles or INT's, so the statement of turnovers being uncharacteristic for Dak is false as he has somewhat of a pattern.
 

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And I was simply stating a fact that your post was wrong.

I’m not acting like an emotional mess like you about it though and trying to make it personal.

You were wrong in what you said. I corrected it. That’s all.
It wasn’t wrong and you know that.

You’ve posted 10’s of thousands of times about one guy. Let’s talk about that.
 

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It wasn’t wrong and you know that.

You’ve posted 10’s of thousands of times about one guy. Let’s talk about that.
You were wrong.

The only way you could possibly be correct is if you don’t believe fumbles results in turnovers.

You’d still be wrong though.
 

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I would love to know how much the Joneses have offered Dak for an extension. I want to know how much Dak is looking for. As much as I like Dak it is intriguing to see how the Cowboys offense would be with a stronger arm and more athletic quarterback that is under a reasonable contract.
Based on past history JJ had offered Dak $32M/AAV and he refused (2019) because he wanted $35M/AAV and then JJ offered him $35M/AAV and Dak refused due to wanting $40M/AAV (2020) tells me that regardless of what JJ offers Dak in a possible extension, Dak will refuse and want more.

Best guess is Dak and his agent will argue for at least Top 3 money to eclipse the contracts of Herbert ($52.5M/AAV), Jackson ($52M/AAV), and Hurts ($51M/AAV) so for those clamoring for Dak to get extended, be careful what you wish for as Dallas would not be able to sustain their roster in the event Dak gets that kind of contract, especially with Lamb desiring Top 5 WR money ($25M+/AAV) and Parsons who will be desiring Top overall defender money ($30M+/AAV).
 

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actually his teams can't get it done in big spots. . you act like quarterbacks never make mistakes on championship teams.. and yet we've seen big name players ....their teams cover it up and win anyway. that's the problem here our team is .... to beat better teams in the playoffs...
Did you know that a raven is the only bird that will attack an eagle...no, I'm not saying he is for the birds in conversation. :muttley: I have him on ignore, myself...
 

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Based on past history JJ had offered Dak $32M/AAV and he refused (2019) because he wanted $35M/AAV and then JJ offered him $35M/AAV and Dak refused due to wanting $40M/AAV (2020) tells me that regardless of what JJ offers Dak in a possible extension, Dak will refuse and want more.

Best guess is Dak and his agent will argue for at least Top 3 money to eclipse the contracts of Herbert ($52.5M/AAV), Jackson ($52M/AAV), and Hurts ($51M/AAV) so for those clamoring for Dak to get extended, be careful what you wish for as Dallas would not be able to sustain their roster in the event Dak gets that kind of contract, especially with Lamb desiring Top 5 WR money ($25M+/AAV) and Parsons who will be desiring Top overall defender money ($30M+/AAV).
If we have another Lombardi, I won't say a word...
 

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The fact of the matter is that Dak has led the league on multiple occasions on turnovers, whether that be fumbles or INT's, so the statement of turnovers being uncharacteristic for Dak is false as he has somewhat of a pattern.
Taking for your girlfriend. That’s cute.
Parse every word or phrase I use if that makes you happy.

The point was about his uncharacteristic turnovers (and you know that or should)
—his ints—that were clearly out of character.
 

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And when he had those over simplified offenses he led the NFL in fumbles.

He’s just a turnover machine.

Imagine throwing close to 6000 attempts in 2 seasons with Moore and not evdn being close to putting up 40 TDs…. He got 37 once in 2021, 5 of them in the closet when other QBs would have sat. He was kept in a meaningless game for 3 quarters against backup Eagle players. 4 of the TDs against a Commanders team that was no longer in playoff contention and was basically meaningless as well. So 9 of his passing TDs came in 2 of his last 3 meaningless games in reality. And the one game he lost, it was against the Cardinals when he got outplayed by Kyle Murray and that team was 11-6.

Dak sure liked to show his prowess against the NFC East and in meaningless games.
 

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Taking for your girlfriend. That’s cute.
Parse every word or phrase I use if that makes you happy.

The point was about his uncharacteristic turnovers (and you know that or should)
—his ints—that were clearly out of character.
For my girlfriend? That is what you stoop to because you statement was proven false. I laugh at internet members like you that would never dare say that to my face, albeit you should stand on a box if you had the stones.
 

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The fact of the matter is that Dak has led the league on multiple occasions on turnovers, whether that be fumbles or INT's, so the statement of turnovers being uncharacteristic for Dak is false as he has somewhat of a pattern.
And since you want to chime in on his behalf you tell me how you feel about a guy that’s made 10’s of thousands of posts about one guy?
 

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Imagine throwing close to 6000 attempts in 2 seasons with Moore and not evdn being close to putting up 40 TDs…. He got 37 once in 2021, 5 of them in the closet when other QBs would have sat. He was kept in a meaningless game for 3 quarters against backup Eagle players. 4 of the TDs against a Commanders team that was no longer in playoff contention and was basically meaningless as well. So 9 of his passing TDs came in 2 of his last 3 meaningless games in reality. And the one game he lost, it was against the Cardinals when he got outplayed by Kyle Murray and that team was 11-6.

Dak sure liked to show his prowess against the NFC East and in meaningless games.
Kellen Moore literally took at lateral move to get the stick of Dak off him.

Dak was ruining his chances at becoming a head coach one day so he bounced.

Now he has a capable QB in Herbert and Moore will be a HC within 3 years.
 

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This is blasphemy. Troy Aikman's accuracy - in practice and in games - was gushed on by no less than John Madden. He said he might be the most accurate QB he's ever seen. Are you freaking kidding me?
Yeah his accuracy is so good that his completion percentage and his touchdown interception ratio is worse than Prescott.. You call it blasphemy I call it reality.. It's a fact Troy and Roger threw a lot of interceptions both in the regular season and in the playoffs....

I mean Prescott's completion percentage and touchdown interception ratio is so good and yet you're calling him inaccurate.. You know what I think it is it's over saturation of sports programs media social media breaking down every damn analytics you can think of every single hour on the hour 24 hours a day 365 days a week..

Trust me Troy would get blasted for the way he played in a lot of years.. You realize Troy 's best output what's 23 touchdowns 15 interceptions, ironic that people are calling last year Prescott's worst year and he had 23 touchdowns and 15 interceptions.. But if you try to say it well it was so many interceptions in a shortened season for him, then on the flip side it was a lot of touchdowns in a shortened season for him...

I'm sorry but the perception of Prescott is because he's under a microscope nowadays more so than they were back in the day... You just forget about it because it wasn't talked about it so much because the teams were so great.. You realize one Super Bowl year Troy had 13 touchdowns and 12 interceptions, Can you imagine in today's cowboy zone and social media how that would have went over well I mean that's tyrod Taylor numbers.. Seriously don't say it was the era cause I'm not gonna hear it those are a lot of mistakes.. How can Prescott be inaccurate when his completion percentage and his touchdown interception ratio is better? Prescott's ninth all time in NFL history and touchdown interception ratio..

roger

td 153-109 ints Playoffs 24td 19INTs(umm none of those critical LMAO) UMM OK



Troy-

165-141 playoffs 23tds-17 INts(right none critical huh?) no way jimmy would have put up with that



Dwhite

155-132 playoffs 15-17 WOW no way TL puts up with mistakes at critical time LOL



Romo

248-117 playoffs 8 tds 2 INts show me the critical INts hmm his td-int ratio is much better



Dak

166-65 playoffs 11-5ints
 

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Yeah his accuracy is so good that his completion percentage and his touchdown interception ratio is worse than Prescott.. You call it blasphemy I call it reality.. It's a fact Troy and Roger threw a lot of interceptions both in the regular season and in the playoffs....

I mean Prescott's completion percentage and touchdown interception ratio is so good and yet you're calling him inaccurate.. You know what I think it is it's over saturation of sports programs media social media breaking down every damn analytics you can think of every single hour on the hour 24 hours a day 365 days a week..

Trust me Troy would get blasted for the way he played in a lot of years.. You realize Troy 's best output what's 23 touchdowns 15 interceptions, ironic that people are calling last year Prescott's worst year and he had 23 touchdowns and 15 interceptions.. But if you try to say it well it was so many interceptions in a shortened season for him, then on the flip side it was a lot of touchdowns in a shortened season for him...

I'm sorry but the perception of Prescott is because he's under a microscope nowadays more so than they were back in the day... You just forget about it because it wasn't talked about it so much because the teams were so great.. You realize one Super Bowl year Troy had 13 touchdowns and 12 interceptions, Can you imagine in today's cowboy zone and social media how that would have went over well I mean that's tyrod Taylor numbers.. Seriously don't say it was the era cause I'm not gonna hear it those are a lot of mistakes.. How can Prescott be inaccurate when his completion percentage and his touchdown interception ratio is better? Prescott's ninth all time in NFL history and touchdown interception ratio..

roger

td 153-109 ints Playoffs 24td 19INTs(umm none of those critical LMAO) UMM OK



Troy-

165-141 playoffs 23tds-17 INts(right none critical huh?) no way jimmy would have put up with that



Dwhite

155-132 playoffs 15-17 WOW no way TL puts up with mistakes at critical time LOL



Romo

248-117 playoffs 8 tds 2 INts show me the critical INts hmm his td-int ratio is much better



Dak

166-65 playoffs 11-5ints
Dak over Dallas fans LOVE to try and bring former Cowboys QBs and champions down to prop Dak up.
 

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And since you want to chime in on his behalf you tell me how you feel about a guy that’s made 10’s of thousands of posts about one guy?
Well, unlike yourself who apparently stalks another member to where you can say confidently what he posts about throughout his time in the group, I have no feelings whatsoever about it.
 

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Well, unlike yourself who apparently stalks another member to where you can say confidently what he posts about throughout his time in the group, I have no feelings whatsoever about it.
It’s weird to be THAT upset about what another posters posts about isn’t it?

Dak fans are just too emotional.
 

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Is that some sort of threat? I respect you for your service, but that goes only so far. I’d say it to your face, but it’s childish and pointless to even go where you’re trying to take it.

You’re that offended that I used that phrase? Hmmm. Ok.
What's childish is referring to another man as another member's girlfriend simply because they offered a counter point. As for a threat, I am simply stating the obvious.
 

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Kellen Moore literally took at lateral move to get the stick of Dak off him.

Dak was ruining his chances at becoming a head coach one day so he bounced.

Now he has a capable QB in Herbert and Moore will be a HC within 3 years.

I just read the following article on changes in the Dallas offense. It doesn’t really fly with me that the problem was Moore, as it indicates very clearly that defenses were reading Dak pretty easily last year.

https://sports.yahoo.com/inside-cow...ly-one-with-a-new-set-of-rules-184350409.html

While turnover-worthy plays resulted in interceptions 77.3% of the time across the league last season, Prescott’s turnover-worthy plays were intercepted 88.9% of the time.

Dak also said this:

“I keep saying ‘aggressive nature,’ but it’s aggressive in the play calls with a great purpose in it,” Prescott told Yahoo Sports. “‘Hey, if that’s not there, you know the reads, just get down to it. Very clear and concise about getting to a play that I feel most comfortable with. If I don’t like that look, whether it’s a run play or a pass play, I have so many plays and things in my back pocket that I’m almost obligated to get to because I know what he’s looking for in his plays.

As I’ve said multiple times on this forum, Dak stares down his WRs and he’s not a good progression QB. Here he’s trying to sell the fact that if his first-read is not there, he’s suppose to go to his second. Please tell me how this was the fault of Moore? That’s standard practice of a QB.

They also seem to imply the disconnect was between WR and QB, meaning the timing was off. We all see it with Dak. What they call timing is his slow processing time.

The other point is, Dak is throwing the majority of time out of shotgun, without any drop-back from under center. He’s throwing the same way he’s been throwing his whole career, meaning it’s not Moore. Linehan had to take the traditional drop-back away from him, because his timing sucked. Moore hardly used it as well. This is a “sales pitch” to me.

I personally think the beginning of the season will be slow and Dallas play calling will have to get back to the standard Dak play-calling.
 
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