Dak's Last 2 Games

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Last 2 games - 60 dropbacks - 29 completions and 14 runs -48.3% completions on dropbacks

First 10 games - 363 dropbacks - 214 completions and 33 runs- 58.9% completions on dropbacks

Now I have not taken out designed runs from scrambles but he has had very few so I don't think it is applicable.

Is it the defense we are playing or are teams figuring out his tendencies and taking them away? He has had more difficulty finding receivers - it is noticable.
 

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Well I don't see Beasley running too many of his slants as much. I think Washington really wanted to win and defense stepped up, Minny has a great defense so could be just who we played.

I do think players do get a tad complacent as well towards end of year, that is up to the coaches to keep that in check.
 

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Last 2 games - 60 dropbacks - 29 completions and 14 runs -48.3% completions on dropbacks

First 10 games - 363 dropbacks - 214 completions and 33 runs- 58.9% completions on dropbacks

Now I have not taken out designed runs from scrambles but he has had very few so I don't think it is applicable.

Is it the defense we are playing or are teams figuring out his tendencies and taking them away? He has had more difficulty finding receivers - it is noticable.

Are these numbers purely drop backs? Are they throws to receivers and not TE's? I'm a little unsure of what the data represents.

The sample size comparison is too skewed as well.

I do see some teams really work to change up what they usually do with some exotic zone blitzes. That's a good thing...it means that teams realize they have to change things up in order to stop Dak. That's what happened to Romo in 2006.

The next step is when Dak fights thru that and the only way to beat him is to beat his supporting cast. That's what separates guys like Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Peyton from Romo (and now Dak). Once you get to that level, you're going to be elite.




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Are these numbers purely drop backs? Are they throws to receivers and not TE's? I'm a little unsure of what the data represents.

The sample size comparison is too skewed as well.

I do see some teams really work to change up what they usually do with some exotic zone blitzes. That's a good thing...it means that teams realize they have to change things up in order to stop Dak. That's what happened to Romo in 2006.

The next step is when Dak fights thru that and the only way to beat him is to beat his supporting cast. That's what separates guys like Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Peyton from Romo (and now Dak). Once you get to that level, you're going to be elite.




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It is a combination of attempts, runs and sacks. I don't think he had any designed runs in last 2 games. Sample size is based on my observations of the last 2 games and how many times he scramble which seemed to me to increase.
 

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After the Washington game, it seemed like the general consensus was that Dak was finally getting comfortable enough to actually use his legs to his advantage more frequently. I think we've all been glad he's not a run-first guy, but also felt there have been some lanes available if he just took off and ran a little more frequently.

I think some of that carried over into the Minnesota game, but I thought several other things were going on that game: a) very tough defense; b) low-scoring game, and he played very conservatively as such; c) all of the offensive penalties disrupted all offensive rhythm.
 

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3 games in 12 days. The entire team has been less effective and needed a break. In addition the competition has been better.

I think that is possible as Washington at least has always seemed to cover our receivers better than most and Minnesota is obviously a very good defense but to me it is a concern.
 

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The MIN defense has a lot to do with those numbers. And Dak's been effective in both wins. He's converting using his legs when there isn't a safe throw available, and that's basically his adjustment to the pressure and the coverage. It's a pretty effective answer to the problem.

As long as we can get the secondary play up to where it's been at times this season going into the playoffs, I feel pretty good about where we're at across the board right now. If we get beat, it'll be another team playing great and will come down to a play or two somewhere along the line. It won't be a systemic personnel limitation or QB failure in any one game.
 

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Last 2 games - 60 dropbacks - 29 completions and 14 runs -48.3% completions on dropbacks

First 10 games - 363 dropbacks - 214 completions and 33 runs- 58.9% completions on dropbacks

Now I have not taken out designed runs from scrambles but he has had very few so I don't think it is applicable.

Is it the defense we are playing or are teams figuring out his tendencies and taking them away? He has had more difficulty finding receivers - it is noticable.


Several factors for it.

I know on one of the plays he ran on our offensive coordinator thought it was a good idea to run a 2 man route on 3rd and long.


Our passing scheme has always been suspect and has caused our QB's to make plays outside of the scheme.

It's been better this year but the last couple of weeks it's reared it's ugly head.

We need to break away from our tendencies a little and keep teams on their heals.
 

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Well I don't see Beasley running too many of his slants as much. I think Washington really wanted to win and defense stepped up, Minny has a great defense so could be just who we played.

I do think players do get a tad complacent as well towards end of year, that is up to the coaches to keep that in check.

To those who actually go to the games and get to see the WHOLE picture, you might have a better take on the coverage as a whole and schemes to take away WR's
 

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Normally we see newer QBs that can start off well but really start to tank in the end. I think mostly because of their own limitations within a schemed offense AND the ability of other teams Defenses to recognize the young QBs limitations.

However with Dak it seems he is still finding ways to win and frankly I think we have Faced some really good defenses. Frankly am amazed because normally with a young QB will rely on a team that has a very good defense to pull him out of some mistakes or holes if you will. Well our Defense is not a very good defense. We are good at stopping the run (mostly because we are so bad at stopping the pass) and against points. But for the most part our Defense is not good enough to help the normal young QB win games ala like Pittsburgh was with Pig Pen in his rookie year. However Dak has done so well that he has surpassed most Rookie QBs IMO because he is actually one of the people who are helping win the games and not a young QB where the team pulls the QB out of his mistakes.

I have no clue if we go all the way. But I do know he has impressed me a great deal. And he has done it against some teams with good defenses. Couple of games you probably have seen him struggle some at first only to help change things around and pull out the win in the end. Even when the the defense is not doing great, when the run game is not working due to penalties, he still seems to make a play or two in those games that sparks the team...that gets that first down that gets them back on track.

He is not a one man gang...not trying to make him some untouchable grid iron god that needs nobody around him. But he is much better than the normal young rookie QB.

I will also say that sometimes he seems to realize that he has to take the team on his back for play or two to get things going but in doing so he does not over do it and throw some crazy up for grabs pass into triple coverage. He takes it on his back and in some cases he makes a great throw by threading the needle or he takes off running. But even when he threads the needle, it is much more calculated than most Rookie QBs would throw when they are just trying to make a spark or a play that normally winds up being a turn over.
 
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I think Dallas has faced some tough defense. While Washington weakness on defense is the run they have been a very good pass defense. Minn as well and did not help that Dallas had several penalties in this past game that puts the offense in situation that are hard to overcome vs top defenses.

One thing is easy to see Dak has remained poised and still making big plays to help his team win games. I have see nothing that has rattled Dak
 
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