Dak's Pocket Presence

[CouchCoach]

Dak is 6'2" and he doesn't have exceptionally tall receivers and some of these strip sacks look like he's unaware they're even close until they're right on top of him. He's trying to stay ready to throw and therefore doesn't have good ball security and the worst part is the D's know it.

So, how about a deeper drop to give him better field sight and awareness of the rush. To his credit, he is staying focused downfield and trying to make a play but that affects his pocket presence and he does not have that 6th sense some QB's have when the pocket is getting ready to collapse.

They need to do something because now that is game plan 1 for the D because they see how he's exposed on film.

The other thing they can do is a moving pocket, the OL seems athletic enough to do that.

Last night, 7 sacks and 2 fumbles as a result, not going to win many games against good teams with that stat.

 

[reddyuta]

The best thing Dak can do is get rid of ball ,just get rid of it if nobody is open and go on for for another play.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Getting sacked just kills drives. you know it's over when it's 2 and 20. And for heaven's sake hold onto the ball at least. Other than that Dak has been playing better the last 4 weeks. Glad to see it.

 

[TwentyOne]

He needs a one read and throw it. When there is initial preassure forget him.

All this team needs is a good QB. We would be the #1 team in the NFL and it wouldnt be no competition.

This defense yesterday. I thought it would break down in the end. But to hold the Saint to 10 points. Especially with that desastrous QB play. Man, this should be our year! I mean, come on this was frickin Drew Brees and he looked like a High School QB out there.

I didnt know what to think about our defense. But now i am.really convinced. These guys i can fall in love with. I am very proud of our team!

 

[Bobhaze]

I think Dak needs an OC that can teach better drop back, footwork and timed release skills. Passing that works best in the modern NFL now is mostly a quick 5 step drop with quick progressions and timing.

If Dak improves his release he would automatically be a better QB. I appreciate his not throwing many INTs, but sometimes his reluctance to throw gives the pass rush an advantage they wouldn’t normally have.

 

[tm1119]

Deeper drop isn’t going to do anything. That would just be more yardage lost. Move the pocket more and get Dak in space so he doesn’t have to worry about awareness of where rushers are coming from. RPO’s to freeze defenders for a second would also help.

The routes on some of these plays are also terrible. It will be like 3 and 8 and Dak will have the ball for 2+ seconds before any of his WR’s are even thinking about looking for the ball. Plays have to be designed with Dak’s limitations in mind.

 

[CATCH17]

Dak is 6'2" and he doesn't have exceptionally tall receivers and some of these strip sacks look like he's unaware they're even close until they're right on top of him. He's trying to stay ready to throw and therefore doesn't have good ball security and the worst part is the D's know it.

So, how about a deeper drop to give him better field sight and awareness of the rush. To his credit, he is staying focused downfield and trying to make a play but that affects his pocket presence and he does not have that 6th sense some QB's have when the pocket is getting ready to collapse.

They need to do something because now that is game plan 1 for the D because they see how he's exposed on film.

The other thing they can do is a moving pocket, the OL seems athletic enough to do that.

Last night, 7 sacks and 2 fumbles as a result, not going to win many games against good teams with that stat.

He just lacks natural QB instincts and he tries to be a classic pocket passer instead of doing what makes him different which is the ability to tuck the ball and run.

He needs to become much more decisive on when to take off.

 

[bayeslife]

Okay yes blame Dak for some of the sacks but keep in mind that the O line was getting walked into his lap half the time.

The reason why you can’t just “throw it away”? Look at Brees’ interception to end the game

 

[TheCoolFan]

I just don't know where he's supposed to learn this from. Kellen Moore? He may have potential as a coach with some more years of experience but right now, what could Moore possibly teach Dak? I highly doubt Garrett is in the QB room during the week with Dak as well and it doesn't appear that Linehan is either...or else he's just not effective.

It would be nice to have an experienced QB coach and/or an experienced backup QB to learn from but Dak has neither right now. Jerry is obsessed with having Cooper Rush be their new Matt Moore (because he regrets letting Moore get away from them) but does he not remember that Romo always had proven vets backing him up?

 

[beware_d-ware]

Dak definitely lacks pocket awareness, but a lot of those 7 sacks comes down to poor protection. We were playing with 3/5 backups on the offensive line, and Collins has always been a below average pass blocker to start with. Plug in Tyron for Fleming and Frederick for Joe Looney and I bet that a lot of Dak's pocket awareness issues will magically be solved.

 

[LatinMind]

Dak is 6'2" and he doesn't have exceptionally tall receivers and some of these strip sacks look like he's unaware they're even close until they're right on top of him. He's trying to stay ready to throw and therefore doesn't have good ball security and the worst part is the D's know it.

So, how about a deeper drop to give him better field sight and awareness of the rush. To his credit, he is staying focused downfield and trying to make a play but that affects his pocket presence and he does not have that 6th sense some QB's have when the pocket is getting ready to collapse.

They need to do something because now that is game plan 1 for the D because they see how he's exposed on film.

The other thing they can do is a moving pocket, the OL seems athletic enough to do that.

Last night, 7 sacks and 2 fumbles as a result, not going to win many games against good teams with that stat.

Sometimes theres just a whole bunch of bug guys surrounding him wether that be his own OL or opposing DL that dont give him anywhere to go. More then a few times on them 7 sacks guys were on top of his shortly after the snap because of protection breakdown.

Now he does have times where he just cant take a snap, but when he's in the pocket he cant just throw it away. Theres a yellow flag the refs are holding that will go flying.

 

[Blackrain]

I just don't know where he's supposed to learn this from. Kellen Moore? He may have potential as a coach with some more years of experience but right now, what could Moore possibly teach Dak? I highly doubt Garrett is in the QB room during the week with Dak as well and it doesn't appear that Linehan is either...or else he's just not effective.

It would be nice to have an experienced QB coach and/or an experienced backup QB to learn from but Dak has neither right now. Jerry is obsessed with having Cooper Rush be their new Matt Moore (because he regrets letting Moore get away from them) but does he not remember that Romo always had proven vets backing him up?

Dak needs a real QB coach badly . It is probably one of the easiest least expensive things that would have the most positive impact on the team . Look at what Kris Richard has done with the defense and what Colombo has done with our injured Oline . Coaching is what counts in todays NFL . Jerry needs to make this a priority. Dak can not fast track himself and needs some quality help pronto

 

[Kaiser]

Okay yes blame Dak for some of the sacks but keep in mind that the O line was getting walked into his lap half the time.

Exactly. Most of the sacks were plays where he had three or four seconds before getting hit, so if the first read is covered he can either throw a pick or scramble. If a mobile QB gets sacked 7 times its mostly on the OL.

Funny how he only has this problem when half his OL is out or teams blitz the middle with Frederick out.

 

[Creeper]

Dak's pocket presence was better when he was a rookie. Not sure what happened to him since then. In addition he also throws off balance or off his back foot a lot even when he can set his feet. Then again, when he has room to set his feet his throws inaccurate passes, like the overthrow of a wide open Gallup late in the game. I hope Aikman is right about Dak that he needs time to learn. In the past, QBs used to sit on the bench for a few years before starting. Now, they are thrown out there on day one. Dak is a 4th round pick, not a first rounder. He may need time to develop. He looks slightly better the last 4 weeks, but he still makes too many mistakes to go with some great plays. Losing two fumbles is as bad as throwing two interceptions. Those turnovers will cost Dallas a game at some point if he doesn;t clean that up.

 

[sideon]

6'2 is tall enough to see someone coming at you.

 

[Kaiser]

Dak's pocket presence was better when he was a rookie. Not sure what happened to him since then.

The difference last night was that Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick and Ron Leary weren't starting for Dallas. Going from Jason Witten to Blake Jarwin doesn't help either.

 

[Cowboyz88]

A REAL QB coach (read: the best money can buy) is a must.

 

[lopey]

The best thing Dak can do is get rid of ball ,just get rid of it if nobody is open and go on for for another play.

This. He needs to be ready to throw the ball away when no one is open. I think he tries to make each play a positive one, but sometimes you have to let the play die by getting rid of the ball.

 

[cern]

Dak is 6'2" and he doesn't have exceptionally tall receivers and some of these strip sacks look like he's unaware they're even close until they're right on top of him. He's trying to stay ready to throw and therefore doesn't have good ball security and the worst part is the D's know it.

So, how about a deeper drop to give him better field sight and awareness of the rush. To his credit, he is staying focused downfield and trying to make a play but that affects his pocket presence and he does not have that 6th sense some QB's have when the pocket is getting ready to collapse.

They need to do something because now that is game plan 1 for the D because they see how he's exposed on film.

The other thing they can do is a moving pocket, the OL seems athletic enough to do that.

Last night, 7 sacks and 2 fumbles as a result, not going to win many games against good teams with that stat.

to be fair, despite the 7 sacks and 2 fumbles, we did win against arguably the best team in football. sometimes his pocket awareness (or lack thereof) leads to a sack, other times he breaks out for 11 yard runs for a first down. steady as she goes.

 

[DFWJC]

Okay yes blame Dak for some of the sacks but keep in mind that the O line was getting walked into his lap half the time.

The reason why you can’t just “throw it away”? Look at Brees’ interception to end the game

I do think he holds onto the ball too long, and very often.

But you're absolutely right about "just throwing it away". Not always so easy in traffic like that.
A pick or intentional grounding are possible outcomes.