Dallas Badly Needs Kyle Wilber to Emerge

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the results at least on defense are less than mediocre:

2012: Claiborne, Crawford, Wilber, Johnson
2013: Wilcox, Webb, Holloman
2014: Lawrence, Hitchens Gardner, Smith, Dixon, Bishop, Mitchell,

Not one impact player in that bunch. Not one of the LB's runs a sub 4.6, not one of the DL's runs a sub 4.7 and not one of the db's runs a sub 4.5



Better than a historic fiasco can still be bad. I agree that those street pickups were terrible, but Selvie and Hayden eventhough they started need to be replaced. Ben Bass is still Ben Bass. Crawford is still a tweener in the 4-3. Lawrence is still and undersised DE with 4.8 speed.

Forty speed is the determining factor for success in the NFL in your opinion?

Lee ran a 4.71 and 4.6 forty. A sub 4.6 is hardly a requirement for a LB.

Holloman and Wilber are competing for SLB. The starting SLB in the Super Bowl (KJ Wright) had a slower forty time than both Holloman and Wilber.

Lawrence has been compared in style to Terrell Suggs who ran a 4.84 forty. Lawrence ran a 4.69.

Will Smith ran a 4.59 forty.

Webb 4.43
Claiborne 4.43
Dixon 4.48

Seattle had Michael Bennett (4.86) and Red Bryant (4.90) at SDE in the Super Bowl. Gardner (4.83) is projected to SDE.

Crawford ran a 4.78 which is good for either SDE or DT.

Matt Johnson and Wilcox ran 4.52 and 4.51 respectively. That's faster than 2012 1st round Safety Barron (4.54) and 2013 first round Safety Vaccaro (4.59).
 

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Forty speed is the determining factor for success in the NFL in your opinion?

Lee ran a 4.71 and 4.6 forty. A sub 4.6 is hardly a requirement for a LB.

Holloman and Wilber are competing for SLB. The starting SLB in the Super Bowl (KJ Wright) had a slower forty time than both Holloman and Wilber.

Lawrence has been compared in style to Terrell Suggs who ran a 4.84 forty. Lawrence ran a 4.69.

Will Smith ran a 4.59 forty.

Webb 4.43
Claiborne 4.43
Dixon 4.48

Seattle had Michael Bennett (4.86) and Red Bryant (4.90) at SDE in the Super Bowl. Gardner (4.83) is projected to SDE.

Crawford ran a 4.78 which is good for either SDE or DT.

Matt Johnson and Wilcox ran 4.52 and 4.51 respectively. That's faster than 2012 1st round Safety Barron (4.54) and 2013 first round Safety Vaccaro (4.59).

combine results say otherwise. Maybe you timed them going downhill. LOL. Anyway my point is that if you are going to chase RG3 or any mobile QB or want to catch a breaking away Adrian Peterson you need fast players. We need impact players on defense. Players that make a difference. Ware was one of those players, Darren Woodson was one of those players, Deion Sanders was one of those players. We dont have a single impact player on defense. We havent drafted one since Ware in 2005. You cant expect Crawford to all of the sudden turn into Gerald McCoy, Ben Bass to turn into Ndamukong Suh, or Ben Gardner into JJ Watt.
 

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Hatcher had a career year last year but he is far from a one year wonder.

Melton's never done what Hatcher did in 2013. So we should expect to regress at that position this year.

Do you want to have a legitimate discussion about it or continue applying for the team's PR department?

LOL, good zinger.

I'm just not a Hatcher guy. Teams made a lot of hay last year running at his gap. An occasional sack here and there doesn't make up for that. He certainly was never awful, but he was mostly just a guy that cranked it up his contract year.
 

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the results at least on defense are less than mediocre:

2012: Claiborne, Crawford, Wilber, Johnson
2013: Wilcox, Webb, Holloman
2014: Lawrence, Hitchens Gardner, Smith, Dixon, Bishop, Mitchell,

Not one impact player in that bunch. Not one of the LB's runs a sub 4.6, not one of the DL's runs a sub 4.7 and not one of the db's runs a sub 4.5

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Not enough time. There could be multiple impact players from that group; we just don't know yet.

It's vastly better than the 3-4 years prior.
 

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combine results say otherwise. Maybe you timed them going downhill. LOL. Anyway my point is that if you are going to chase RG3 or any mobile QB or want to catch a breaking away Adrian Peterson you need fast players. We need impact players on defense. Players that make a difference. Ware was one of those players, Darren Woodson was one of those players, Deion Sanders was one of those players. We dont have a single impact player on defense. We havent drafted one since Ware in 2005. You cant expect Crawford to all of the sudden turn into Gerald McCoy, Ben Bass to turn into Ndamukong Suh, or Ben Gardner into JJ Watt.
Forty time and draft results are separate issues.

Your post was wrong in regards to forty times being out of whack.

Suh ran a 5.03 which is good but not great. He's not a good player because of this forty time.

You named the previous star players with fast forty times but ommitted guys like Emmitt and Irvin and many others that did have wow times.
 

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Forty time and draft results are separate issues.

Your post was wrong in regards to forty times being out of whack.

Suh ran a 5.03 which is good but not great. He's not a good player because of this forty time.

You named the previous star players with fast forty times but ommitted guys like Emmitt and Irvin and many others that did have wow times.

So if Clowney had run a pedestrian 4.8 like Lawrence he would've still be the 1st overall pick? I remember Shante Carver had a 4.9 forty and played as such.

Here's a nice article on the subject.
http://www.footballperspective.com/thoughts-on-jadeveon-clowneys-40-yard-dash-time/
 

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Half the meth-heads in Philly can spell Heisenberg, but some of the most staunch Cowboys faithful aren’t yet familiar enough with this 3-year vet to spell his surname with certainty.

Funny as hell dude (clever/original)
 
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