Dallas cannot win the division in a tie

[Tuna Helper]

It is amazing how many football fans have trouble spelling the word LOSE...

Loose is the opposite of tight, not the opposite of win...

Sorry but that drives me nuts...

Add "parity" to the list. I've seen it spelled as "parody" over and over again.

 

[david_jackson]

perhaps a Venn Diagram is in order <tic>

 

[vicjagger]

It is amazing how many football fans have trouble spelling the word LOSE...

Loose is the opposite of tight, not the opposite of win...

Sorry but that drives me nuts...

Me too. I missed it on my proof-read. I know how to spell the word, this was a typo. Sorry to have ruined your day.

 

[Apluz]

We can still beat them with a tie if:

1. We beat them and Philly in our remaining two NFC East games.

2. They lose to the Eagles and Commanders in their final two NFC East games.

3. We have a better record in common games....lets hope they lose to JAX tonight.


This is a moot point IMO, as I think we finish with the better record.

I know they are banged up but I don't see them losing to both Philly and the Commanders. So we need to have a better record they lose tonight and we are will have better control.

 

[vicjagger]

perhaps a Venn Diagram is in order <tic>

I don't know what that is, but how about this:

Dal Tot Ws = NYG Tot Ws <----the definition of a tie

Total Ws = Common Ws (CWs) + Non-common Ws (NCWs)

Thus, if tied:

Dal CWs + Dal NCWs = NYG CWs + NYG NCWs

We know NYG NCWs is set at 0. Dal NCWs can only be 1 or 2. We'll use 1.

Thus, w/ substituitions,

Dal CWs + 1 = NYG CWs + 0, or

Dal CWs = NYG CWS -1

Dallas will always be at least 1 common win behind.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The way the Gints are playing, all this tie breaking stuff won't matter.

 

[Fan Since 77]

oops, wrong thread...

 

[dougonthebench]

who said anything about a tie?ther's still quite a few games left,lets wait and see what happens.

 

[bbgun]

At the risk of stating the obvious, that loss to Washington was very damaging. I don't see the Gints losing to them at FedEX. We'll see.

 

[chinch]

we just need to beat them in 2 weeks then we finish ahead by 1-2 games so tie-breakers are irrelevent. as expected the Jags gave them a beatdown like we would have if Drew hadn't started

 

[vicjagger]

who said anything about a tie?...

I am your guilty party. I was merely proposing a scenario for discussion. It's not a prediction.

 

[Verdict]

Simple verdict, Ny loses tonight and Dallas wins out. Dallas wins the division with a 12-4 record and NY wildcards it at 11-5 or worse.

Are you directing this my way, or using the term in its normal meaning. I hadn't posted in this thread when you posted this. LOL. It's all good. I'm just ribbing you a little.

 

[AdamJT13]

It'll be nearly impossible for a tiebreaker between us and the Giants to come down to common games since they'd probably win on division record. We're 1-3 in the division; they're 3-0. So they'd have to lose all three remaining division games (putting them at 9-7 AT BEST), we'd have to win our last two, AND we'd have to lose at least three of our four other games outside the division (Atlanta, Tampa Bay, New Orleans and Detroit). If the Giants lost one of their remaining non-division games and finished 8-8, we'd have to lose all four of our non-division games.

If none of that happens, common games won't matter. And we can't win the head-to-head or division record tiebreakers; the best we can do is tie.

So yes, we need to finish with a better record than the Giants in order to win the division.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Even if Dallas & New York remain tied after the 2nd tiebreaker (division record), the 3rd t/b is record in common games. The Giiants have an advantage that cannot be lost.

If 2 teams have the same record, the team with the most common game wins must also have the most non-common game losses. In non-common games, NY is 0-2 (Seattle & Chicago), while Dallas is 1-0 (Arizona), with Detroit to play.

Dallas must win the division outright.

My friend... we are NOT going for the tie of the division lead. We are going for the 1-up.

Cowboys 11-5
Giants 10-6 or 9-7