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quickccc said:
You don't believe it ? ....Don't buy it ?

https://vault.si.com/vault/1996/08/...ve-humbled-by-the-many-hard-hits-he-has-taken

Here's an usurp from former Cowboys Legendary Everson Walls on Hershel Walker.:

Dorsett, arguably the Cowboys' best running back until Smith
arrived in Dallas, was traded to the Broncos in 1988. "Going
with Herschel was the beginning of the end for [coach] Tom
Landry," says Everson Walls.

"It wasn't that anyone had anything personal against Herschel, but our chemistry was broken up." And
that was only part of the problem, according to Walls. "We could
see right away Herschel wasn't that fluid or nimble," he says.
"He couldn't turn the corner on sweeps or swing passes.

" He couldn't dictate the game the way Tony did or Emmitt does. He
was more like a big brute who could run like hell if he got
through a hole. I guess he could just run over guys in college
football or the USFL, but this was the NFL."

Publicly, Landry tried to sell the concept of a dream backfield
of Heisman winners Dorsett and Walker. Privately, he told his
coaches, "Let's try to figure out what to do with Herschel." A
shoulder injury from his college days seemed to make Walker
tentative on plunges.
He ran robotically upright and reduced his
gait to choppy steps if he sensed any traffic in the hole.
"Tippin'," the players call it. Tiptoeing.

Paul Hackett, now offensive coordinator for the Kansas City
Chiefs, served as the Cowboys' pass-offense coordinator during
Walker's three full seasons in Dallas.

After the Cowboys' 3-13 showing in 1988, a frustrated Hackett said,
"Herschel is an immense talent with dramatic speed.

But what people don't understand is that though he's supposed to be a big power runner, he's best at running and catching out in space.

The question is, How do you get him there? We were statistically
successful with him [in '88 he became the 10th player in NFL
history to amass more than 2,000 combined yards rushing and
receiving in a season] by lining him up in lots of different
places.
But we never felt he was completely committed to
winning. Every year it's: 'Well, I may want to join the FBI.'
You wonder how much football really means to him."
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Take Murray into that trade with the Vikings and see what you get..... perhaps a 5th round player and a box of tampons.
 
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quickccc said:
- And yet 3rd round pic Murray still broke all Cowboys single season rushing records ? Yet between Emmttt and Zeke, he still owns that record ?
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Emmitt still holds the Cowboys season record for rushing TDs with 25.
 
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Good list, although I might rearrange a few.

Only glaring omission is 1960s all decade team member Ralph Neely.

I’d probably put Perkins on there over Walker too.
 
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cowboysfan99 said:
Good list, although I might rearrange a few.

Only glaring omission is 1960s all decade team member Ralph Neely.

I’d probably put Perkins on there over Walker too.
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Was Don Perkins more of a full back than tail back ?
 
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QUARTERBACKS:
1) Roger Staubach
2) Troy Aikman
3) Danny White
4) Don Meredith
5) Tony Romo
6) Craig Morton
7) Eddie Lebaron
8) Steve Beuerlein
9) dak prescott
 
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Captain-Crash said:
QUARTERBACKS:
1) Roger Staubach
2) Troy Aikman
3) Danny White
4) Don Meredith
5) Tony Romo
6) Craig Morton
7) Eddie Lebaron
8) Steve Beuerlein
9) dak prescott
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at least you have Danny in a better spot, not sure he shold be ahead of Dandy but he should damn sure be ahead of Tony and Dak.
 
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RonnieT24 said:
Maybe 34-36 year old fully developed Jedi Romo .. but pre-2013 Romo? Not a chance.. Now if Dak has another 15 INT season I will change my tune but to this point Dak through 7 years has been a good deal better than Romo in his first 7 years. Even if I don't hold it against him that he couldn't even get on the field his first two season and judge him solely on 2006-2012 I would not rate that QB better than Dak. As I said from 2013 I would be willing to hold that discussion but prior to that Romo to me was a snakebit loser and a choke artist at the worst possible time who I couldn't wait to see gone from Dallas. But Romo got better in that 2013-2015 period. Years 10-12 in the league and years 8-10 as the starter. He really learned how to take care of the ball.. how to manage the game and how to win. I would probably lean towards taking THAT guy over the current version of Dak. However Dak's story is still not yet written. He is to be afforded the same chance to grow and mature in the game. So I won't judge his career against Romo's career until his career is over. Nor will I compare him coming off arguably his worst year against Romo's best years. That makes no sense to me. Romo's progression was not a straight line either. Ironically he ALSO led the NFL in INTs his 7th season as a starter with 19 in 2012. And I can never get his 3 INT performance in the season finale with playoffs on the line at RFK that year out of my head. Especially that last one late in the game that lobbed out to the flat when we were driving for the winning score.. or so I thought. I was so done with him after that game...

I do think Dak's 30-35 seasons will be better than Romo's. If for no other reason than he takes better care of his body so he's not going to be in an out of the lineup AND he will have better coaching in McCarthy. He will likely also have consistently better defenses which should afford him the opportunity to play within himself more. I think Romo always felt like he had to be Superman with some of the horrible defenses that backed him later in his career..
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-Staubach – unlike Romo and the Babe Laufenberg misleading “ 4th quarter comeback ” stats, Staubach was the true capt of the 2 minute warning winning comeback. He was his own mad scrambling, on the run improvisor but he did not bosch games with careless INTs in bunches like Romo. As efficient in the " shotgun offense " as any Cowboys QB. Late in close games, he could take matters into his own hand.

- Aikman, as a Cowboys fan,. I’m very elated he is in the Hall of Fame, ..but imo, he is not really a HOF’er. When you hear about QBs in HOF, it’s related with individual QBs with big number passing yardage, QBs who led the offense, Cowboys was based more off success of Emmitt, not Aikman, Troy was not on same level as Montana, Marino, Fouts, Warner, Elway, etc. ..imo.
But Troy was big in the playoffs, made clutch plays in clutch time that advanced his team to Super bowls

- Romo, is more known for his Jedi Knight style of mad scrambling and improvising on the move, masterful at making wow plus plays outta potential losses. It looked so pretty in live action but where was plus plays in the last 2 minute warning of games ? Where was 4th quarter comeback in the last 2 minutes ? And as creative as Romo can be, he can also very self-destructive. Turnovers can come in bunches and singlehanded killed games by himself. He was a better pure passer than Dak, but Prescott was a better leader of men, imo.

- White. I could see why some advocate White over Romo and Dak, He led club to 3 different NFC title games, which neither Romo nor Dak has done. White probably has more playoff pedigree than either two. Though he did not possess the physical talents of those two. But there was something about his demeanor and leadership that became so questionable among coaches and teammates that his job was taken by scrub QB Gary Hogeboom.

- Prescott- just the opposite of White, and even Romo- what I continue to hear about Dak is how is he is such a leader of men, coaches and teammates and even management revel are so inspired by him. He’s extraordinarily charismatic and has a personality and work ethic that draws the entire organization. His book is still being written, as he is currently stuck in that gear of can he win and advance come playoff time ?
 

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quickccc said:
-Staubach – unlike Romo and the Babe Laufenberg misleading “ 4th quarter comeback ” stats, Staubach was the true capt of the 2 minute warning winning comeback. He was his own mad scrambling, on the run improvisor but he did not bosch games with careless INTs in bunches like Romo. As efficient in the " shotgun offense " as any Cowboys QB. Late in close games, he could take matters into his own hand.

- Aikman, as a Cowboys fan,. I’m very elated he is in the Hall of Fame, ..but imo, he is not really a HOF’er. When you hear about QBs in HOF, it’s related with individual QBs with big number passing yardage, QBs who led the offense, Cowboys was based more off success of Emmitt, not Aikman, Troy was not on same level as Montana, Marino, Fouts, Warner, Elway, etc. ..imo.
But Troy was big in the playoffs, made clutch plays in clutch time that advanced his team to Super bowls

- Romo, is more known for his Jedi Knight style of mad scrambling and improvising on the move, masterful at making wow plus plays outta potential losses. It looked so pretty in live action but where was plus plays in the last 2 minute warning of games ? Where was 4th quarter comeback in the last 2 minutes ? And as creative as Romo can be, he can also very self-destructive. Turnovers can come in bunches and singlehanded killed games by himself. He was a better pure passer than Dak, but Prescott was a better leader of men, imo.

- White. I could see why some advocate White over Romo and Dak, He led club to 3 different NFC title games, which neither Romo nor Dak has done. White probably has more playoff pedigree than either two. Though he did not possess the physical talents of those two. But there was something about his demeanor and leadership that became so questionable among coaches and teammates that his job was taken by scrub QB Gary Hogeboom.

- Prescott- just the opposite of White, and even Romo- what I continue to hear about Dak is how is he is such a leader of men, coaches and teammates and even management revel are so inspired by him. He’s extraordinarily charismatic and has a personality and work ethic that draws the entire organization. His book is still being written, as he is currently stuck in that gear of can he win and advance come playoff time ?
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You simply cannot leave Meredith out. He was easily 3rd or 4th.
 
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Yes Romo played with some really bad defenses for a stretch of his career.. Especially the Ryan, Kiffen, Marinelli years, 2011-2013. But he also fell on his face with good to great defenses early in his career like the 2006-2008 defenses which were very good. .. and he wasn't any more successful with the bad defenses than Dak has been when HE has had to fight through bad defense. In fact one could argue that by running the ball and not turning it over, Dak has HELPED mask how bad some of the defenses he has played with were. Especially early in his career. The 2016-2018 defenses had decent statistical rankings largely because the offense possessed the ball and shortened the game for them. Nobody ever felt like they could stop a good opposing offense.. especially not if a team was committed to running the ball.
 
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