Dallas Cowboys sign DE Randy Gregory

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His eyes seem---glassy.

His hands seem effective.
 
I think he has concentration issues...he should be paying attention to signing the contract instead of staring at a camera.

/sarcasm off
 
Remember when the media claimed that Dez was going to hold out his rookie year because he felt he should have been drafted higher and that Dez was the FIRST draft pick to sign in the entire NFL?

I do.

Tough to take the media seriously in stuff like this.





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Frank Gore scored a 6. Quincy Carter scored a 30. Troy Aikman scored a 29. Dan Marino scored a 15. Blaine Gabbert scored a 42.

Seems to me that a high number isn't necessarily an indicator of anything.

I wonder why they do this testing if it is useless.....
 
I don't know about this. I mean, I definitely see your point but I think that in the case of a very low number, specific to certain positions, it is telling. I think the more important factor is how quickly your brain processes info to be honest.

It's an indicator of whether you have a learning disability or not.

In the case of Randy Gregory and Quincy Carter, it isn't an indicator of an ability to make sound decisions. In the case of Blaine Gabbert, it wasn't a measure of being able to avoid staring down pass rushers, and make good decisions under fire. In Dan Marino's case, it wasn't a hindrance in learning an offense that he was able to drive consistently to record performances.

It's a data point, but in the cases of guys with questionable character, it doesn't indicate anything.
 
I wonder why they do this testing if it is useless.....

It's a data point. It shows how people process information.

It doesn't tell anyone what a guy with questionable character will do when faced with a difficult decision. It doesn't tell you what a quarterback will do when facing a heavy pass rush.

In other words, it really tells you very little.
 
"Mental rigors" lol. Meanwhile back in reality....he score very high on the wonderlic.

There is more to the mental than logic and such. If he is indeed bipolar then there are few things less likely to trigger a manic episode than the event that is the NFL draft. If he has issues with mania the the risk of questionable and risky behavior increases like smoking pot as well as a myriad of concerns. If he has issues with depression then it will create it's own set of issues.

I have no idea and I am not confident in throwaway diagnosis on sports journalism hearsay but it is a reasonable concern.
 
It's not but it doesn't help you in the classroom studying plays, reading defenses or offenses, learning tendencies of other players. It's a very good indicator of how a player will be able to do those things. Claiborne scored a 6.

I go for talent over wonderlic, but if the talents the same and there's a big discrepancy in their wonderlics, im drafting the higher score guy
 
I go for talent over wonderlic, but if the talents the same and there's a big discrepancy in their wonderlics, im drafting the higher score guy

Sure, intelligence and the ability to process info is important for any candidate, whether it's from the Wonderlic or some other measurement. I think one of the reasons we had Fred rated so highly was because he got his engineering degree in 3 years, and was able to memorize 20-some pass protections - without writing them down - and then reproduce them all from memory.
 
Frank Gore scored a 6. Quincy Carter scored a 30. Troy Aikman scored a 29. Dan Marino scored a 15. Blaine Gabbert scored a 42.

Seems to me that a high number isn't necessarily an indicator of anything.

Quinthy was stupid in his off the field habits but smart by academic standard (as are most smart people btw; think about it, almost all brilliant minds experiment with mind altering substances, (alcohol/absinthe count, etc.). His southern lisp did him a disservice when people interviewed him. Doesn't mean he was meant to be a great QB however. Career backup definitely if he kept his nose and lungs clean.
 
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It's a data point. It shows how people process information.

It doesn't tell anyone what a guy with questionable character will do when faced with a difficult decision. It doesn't tell you what a quarterback will do when facing a heavy pass rush.

In other words, it really tells you very little.

I think it tells more about the people that bomb it than those that get an average score or above. It is another 'red flag' indicator.

For maybe 90% of the players it is almost meaningless, but for the other 10% it could be the deciding factor.
 
The deals we signed Collins and Gregory to are highway robbery. It's the football gods' version of karma for that bullcrap salary cap stuff the NFL pulled on us.

Don't get me started on that. I can't see penalizing Jones and Snyder just because they were smarter than the other owners in how they structure those deals.
 
It's a data point. It shows how people process information.

It doesn't tell anyone what a guy with questionable character will do when faced with a difficult decision. It doesn't tell you what a quarterback will do when facing a heavy pass rush.

In other words, it really tells you very little.

Apparently, it tells you that if you make a 4 or less, you can't play DB effectively.

Just jokes...
 

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