Dallas Cowboys sign DE Randy Gregory

[Plankton]

Apparently, it tells you that if you make a 4 or less, you can't play DB effectively.

Just jokes...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's an indicator of whether you have a learning disability or not.

In the case of Randy Gregory and Quincy Carter, it isn't an indicator of an ability to make sound decisions. In the case of Blaine Gabbert, it wasn't a measure of being able to avoid staring down pass rushers, and make good decisions under fire. In Dan Marino's case, it wasn't a hindrance in learning an offense that he was able to drive consistently to record performances.

It's a data point, but in the cases of guys with questionable character, it doesn't indicate anything.

I think the jury is still out on what it might mean for Gregory. With Carter, I think he had other issues going on and it simply got in the way of his development. Who can say what he might have become had he been able to stay out of trouble? I don't really believe that Carter would have been a great QB either way but he might have had a good career in the NFL (not great but good). We will never know for sure. I don't think you have to be a genius to play the game well. I do think that you have to have the ability to learn and understand concepts. As I mentioned earlier, certain positions require more in this area. The ability to see things and make decisions quickly is pretty key for a QB. Marino is not a mental giant but he had some very rare skills and his ability to see things on the field and translate that into action was very quick. The minute he saw something, his brain processed it and his release was lightning quick. Together with his accuracy and his arm strength, that made him great. However, his inability to understand how important the run game was to the overall team was a definite shortcoming and that, IMO, goes to the mental make up or shortcomings of his game. Aikman, just as talented IMO, and perhaps even more so, understood this and that separated them IMO. It's why I rank Troy over Marino, even though Marino has far superior numbers. I do think it was a hindrance but it's hard to make that argument because of what he was able to do on the field.

I don't know that there is any correlation to character thou. I agree with you on that. You can be really, really smart and still be a person of poor character. The reverse is also true. In the NFL, you have to be strong and I am a believe in the fact that character helps build strength. JMO.

 

[AbeBeta]

It's an indicator of whether you have a learning disability or not.

In the case of Randy Gregory and Quincy Carter, it isn't an indicator of an ability to make sound decisions. In the case of Blaine Gabbert, it wasn't a measure of being able to avoid staring down pass rushers, and make good decisions under fire. In Dan Marino's case, it wasn't a hindrance in learning an offense that he was able to drive consistently to record performances.

It's a data point, but in the cases of guys with questionable character, it doesn't indicate anything.

The Wonderlic is in no way a test of whether someone has a learning disability.

It is a test of general intelligence. It isn't a great test but it is a quick one. You wouldn't use it to say things like "someone with a 20 is clearly smarter than someone with a 12" - but extremely low scores should raise red flags. There is some validity to the measure - a guy like John Urschel who had an M.A. in Mathematics and has published several academic papers in the field, was the highest scorer last year. One of our CBs scored a 4 and claimed the test didn't mean anything - he's shown a few times that he struggles mentally (e.g., deciding to leave the team).

Gregory scoring high on this is consistent with what his coaches have said about him - he is very smart. He has admitted problems with marijuana - something that is not at all uncommon for people with anxiety disorders (his people say he does not have bipolar). That disorder drives the poor decision making, it doesn't come from being stupid

 

[TheDude]

There is more to the mental than logic and such. If he is indeed bipolar then there are few things less likely to trigger a manic episode than the event that is the NFL draft. If he has issues with mania the the risk of questionable and risky behavior increases like smoking pot as well as a myriad of concerns. If he has issues with depression then it will create it's own set of issues.

I have no idea and I am not confident in throwaway diagnosis on sports journalism hearsay but it is a reasonable concern.

Is there a waiver players sign on confidentiality? Seems like a clinical diagnosis being leaked would be against HIPPA regulation.

I would have thought player would have recourse against private medical info being publicized.

 

[TheDude]

Mr roper rules

 

[CATCH17]

Coming this Fall

Rushmen 9.4- The Sackening

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Dude needs to tie himself to the squat rack.

 

[Silver Surfer]

His eyes seem---glassy.

Here's the unedited version of that photo:
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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Is there a waiver players sign on confidentiality? Seems like a clinical diagnosis being leaked would be against HIPPA regulation.

I would have thought player would have recourse against private medical info being publicized.

Well they have to sign a waiver at some point to reveal injuries publicly. Otherwise I am guessing HIPPA would leave them open to serious liability. I don't know if there is a line on what medical info can be released.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

Here's the unedited version of that photo:
http://i636.***BLOCKED***/albums/uu87/jdjohnston1960/Gregory.jpg

Safe to assume he has a new plug in the Irving area.

 

[Fletch]

With special guest D Law

.... and featuring Tyrone Crawford.