Dallas or Philadelphia

[Cowboys1966]

He's in the same offense, but not in the same scheme. You watched the Cowboys games against the, right? First game was all passes. Drop back Tom Brady type passes. Same with the playoffs against Tampa. Just drop back QB. They're not doing that now.

It's the same thing Chicago transitioned to mid season. They went from a low or no scoring team, to a higher scoring team using the same RPO Philly uses. They just don't have the same talent.

I could swear I remember the announcers talking about them running rpo heavy stuff last year. Maybe I’m misremembering.

 

[Cowboys1966]

I could swear I remember the announcers talking about them running rpo heavy stuff last year. Maybe I’m misremembering.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelp...-2021-how-rpos-fit-nick-siriannis-offense?amp

Yea their o was rpo based last year. I think it just evolved with the qb throwing better and better talent around him.

last season they did switch from pass heavy to very run heavy mid season.

anyway I could be wrong…

 

[Flamma]

I could swear I remember the announcers talking about them running rpo heavy stuff last year. Maybe I’m misremembering.

They weren't. They ran the ball 3 times the first time we played them. Their scheme this year is totally different from last year. They run an RPO that gives them 3rd and short. That's the idea. It opens up the pass. Totally different offense this year from last year. It's basically a carbon copy of the 2019 Ravens.

 

[Cowboys1966]

They weren't. They ran the ball 3 times the first time we played them. Their scheme this year is totally different from last year. They run an RPO that gives them 3rd and short. That's the idea. It opens up the pass. Totally different offense this year from last year. It's basically a carbon copy of the 2019 Ravens.

They did run a lot of rpo last year. Article from Oct 2021.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-rpo-game-danger-because-penalties

“Throughout the first four weeks of the season, it has become very clear that the RPO game is a big part of the Eagles’ offense.”

so yeah I agree that they didn’t run a lot early on in the season, but the RPO was a key component of the offence. I think the system/scheme is very similar, but this year, with Hurts passing And awareness improvements it just looks very different.

 

[mcmvp]

Easier decisions...

lol…not really. That’s just you trying to feel better about it

 

[Typhus]

If Hurts and Dak were switched Dallas wins the division and Philly is fighting with the Giants and Commanders for 2nd place.

Hurts is simply the more talented player at this point.

there really can be no argument.

 

[Shane612]

It’s kind of tough given both teams have different offensive systems.

How do yo think they're different?
Personally, I don't think they're that different...except the Beagles have the luxury of having a more mobile/dynamic QB.

 

[tyke1doe]

Don't know. Can't know.
I just know Hurts is having an sensational year, and Dak needs to prove himself - not in the regular season - but in the playoffs.
We don't go anywhere unless coaching improves and Dak plays above himself.
Hurts, on the other hand, needs to avoid injury and hope he doesn't have to meet the 49ers in sub-freezing temperatures.
I just think the Niners defense would win if the game were played in frigid weather.

 

[Creeper]

Don't know. Can't know.
I just know Hurts is having an sensational year, and Dak needs to prove himself - not in the regular season - but in the playoffs.
We don't go anywhere unless coaching improves and Dak plays above himself.
Hurts, on the other hand, needs to avoid injury and hope he doesn't have to meet the 49ers in sub-freezing temperatures.
I just think the Niners defense would win if the game were played in frigid weather.

I don't know how but Hurts has been sacked 35 times this year already. It is shocking. I am surprised he hasn't been hurt yet. But Dak was pretty durable for a few years too before he had injury issues. Hurts runs a lot but I haven't seen him get hit really hard yet. He knows to get out of bounds or slide. Hurts looks like he has a little higher football IQ than Dak. Dak hardly runs at all anymore and when he barely outruns DTs.

 

[Flamma]

They did run a lot of rpo last year. Article from Oct 2021.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-rpo-game-danger-because-penalties

“Throughout the first four weeks of the season, it has become very clear that the RPO game is a big part of the Eagles’ offense.”

so yeah I agree that they didn’t run a lot early on in the season, but the RPO was a key component of the offence. I think the system/scheme is very similar, but this year, with Hurts passing And awareness improvements it just looks very different.

Yes. Towards the last half of the season they did run a lot more RPO. I actually forgot about that. I kind of feel dopey now. But the acquisition of AJ Brown meant a lot. It's not really Hurts getting that much better. Just like Tua didn't magically become better. The situation around these players did. At least that's what I hope.

 

[StarOfGlory]

Hurts is the beneficiary of the players around him and the system.

Quez Watkins if better than Noah Brown. Smith is better than Gallup. And AJ brown is as good as if not better than CeeDee Lamb. Goedert is better than Schultz. Lane Johnson is better than Steele. Kelce is way better than Biadasz. The only position where the Cowboys have an advantage on the OL is RG. Pollard is better than Sanders IMO.

Having said that, Hurts is playing better than Dak right now. He is not throwing interceptions and he is running for 1st downs and touch downs. Hurts has thrown 22 TDs with 5 INTs and 2 fumbles lost for 7 turnovers in 14 games. Dak has 11 INTs in 9 games. If you ask me who I would rather have as my QB right now, I would say Hurts, because he can run when our receivers aren't open.

But, I don't have the numbers for pressures and QB hits. Hurts has been sacked an incredible 35 times despite that offensive line. I had to look that up twice because I found it unbelievable. Dak has 12 sacks. Still the amount of pressure would be interesting to know since it effects a QBs efficiency.

Running QB's get sacked a lot because they can extend plays. Even the best o-line can't pass protect for 8 seconds. Michael Vick was the Barry Sanders of QB's who are runners and he got sacked a lot too.

 

[StarOfGlory]

How confident are you that the Cowboys could beat the Commanders in DC?

The real NFC East rivalry is Dallas and Washington. Washington fans hate the Cowbosys with far more passion that the Eagles.

I think Washington fans hate Dan Snyder more than anything.

 

[DandyDon52]

How do you think Hurts would do in Dallas?
How about Dak in Philadelphia?

in dallas coaches here and jerry would have hurts throwing 40 times a game and tell him not to run!
dak in philly lol they trade him for 2 first round picks!!

 

[DandyDon52]

How confident are you that the Cowboys could beat the Commanders in DC?

The real NFC East rivalry is Dallas and Washington. Washington fans hate the Cowbosys with far more passion that the Eagles.

for me that went away when wash changed their name and uniforms.
The new brown ones are ******** ! brown was never a wash color.

 

[Qcard]

Hurts get's questioned for having good players around him.

Meanwhile Dak is top level despite having a HOF O-Line his entire career, a 2 time rushing champ for his RB, and playing with multiple 1st round WR talents in Dez, Cooper, and Ceedee.

Does anyone else SEE the stupidity in these Dak Haters Post?


hOf o-Line hIs eNTiRE cArEEr....you can almost see the mouth breathing

Dak Haters are imbeciles

 

[StarOfGlory]

Does anyone else SEE the stupidity in these Dak Haters Post?


hOf o-Line hIs eNTiRE cArEEr....you can almost see the mouth breathing

Dak Haters are imbeciles

Gotta play Devil's Advocate here...he has Tyron Smith who probably will be (should be) HoF (except 2020 and 2022 injured seasons), Zack Martin who will be HoF, and had Fredbeard until his retirement, who would have more 1st team all-pros if Jason Kelce wasn't around, and was on the HoF path. It's not like Dak had utter garbage in front of him. That's one of the best o-lines the NFCE has ever seen. A lot of QB's never get that kind of talent in front of them. That's as close to a HoF line you'll get. If you want to argue Philly's today is better, I won't say no, as all of their linemen today range from good to HoF, whereas we always seem to have a weak link somewhere. Joe Burrow would cream his pants for a line like Dak had (has).

 

[Cowboys1966]

Does anyone else SEE the stupidity in these Dak Haters Post?


hOf o-Line hIs eNTiRE cArEEr....you can almost see the mouth breathing

Dak Haters are imbeciles

Dude you make little to no sense. Sorry.

 

[Blue&Silver]

Switch QBs between Chicago and Philly and Fields becomes a good NFL QB...

The scheme has made Hurts but that scheme only works with that type of QB.

I don't think the question makes sense without the offensive coaches coming with Hurts.

Fields isn't anywhere near the passer Hurts is. Watching them last week Fields ran to pass. He's more like Mike Vick in the early days where his entire game was running. Hurts is a good passer, and honestly a clone of Russell Wilson only bigger. That's my observation. Fields might develop into a good NFL quarterback but he's not there now.

 

[Jarntt]

Since Philly seems to be this teams only competition. For this year, if the QB's were switched, what would each teams record be at this point?

No coaching changes, no player change, and the culture remains.

Would Philly still be rolling?
Would Dallas be in second place in the division?
Which QB would be in the MVP race?

This post has nothing to do with anyone's pro or anti fandom. Just want to hear your thoughts.

Hurts is completely dominating Dak this year and having a way better season. It's not close on any level at all. Anyone who tries to dispute that is just blinded by homerism. That being said, the Eagles as a team are just better than the Cowboys right now and Hurts benefits greatly from that and in particular because of the OL. So if you switched up the QBs I suspect the records would be about the same. We won with Rush and we are winning with Dak. They have won with Hurts and will likely win with Minshew. It's a team game

 

[Cowboys1966]

Yes. Towards the last half of the season they did run a lot more RPO. I actually forgot about that. I kind of feel dopey now. But the acquisition of AJ Brown meant a lot. It's not really Hurts getting that much better. Just like Tua didn't magically become better. The situation around these players did. At least that's what I hope.

No worries.

I think that Hurts actually did improve quite a bit. I don’t recall him dropping dimes at all last year. The guy apparently out works everyone…I know a lot of players are talked about in that way, but in this case it seems legit. I wish he was a cowboy.