Dallas--Pick at #32 overall

[stilltheguru88]

If we select a tight end round 1 I'll be disgusted. None of those dudes can even block smh.

You could get a guy like Jeremy sprinkle from Arkansas mid round who can actually block and be fine at the position. This tight end stuff in Dallas has to stop.

 

[VACowboy]

For me it depends who's on the board. My guy is Harold Landry. If he's there at #32 I'm not screwing around. He's my pick. Other defenders who I think are realistic and I'd take before trading down are Taco Charlton, Takkarist McKinley, Adoree Jackson, Ross, who I could see falling because of size and injury concerns, and King, who could slide because of underclassmen entering the draft. Henry won't last that long and I wouldn't take any other TE in round one, but Bucky Hodges is a 6'6" receiving TE in the Novacek mold who I think would be a steal at the end of round two (doubt he lasts that long). I'm not real big on trading out of the first, but Hodges and Landry are guys I'd be looking at if trading out were the plan.

 

[CATCH17]

If we select a tight end round 1 I'll be disgusted. None of those dudes can even block smh.

You could get a guy like Jeremy sprinkle from Arkansas mid round who can actually block and be fine at the position. This tight end stuff in Dallas has to stop.

I completely disagree.

I would've agreed with you in the past but not anymore.

When we were using a power run scheme it was non-sense to draft these TE's over and over.

Now setting the edge for our zone run scheme is critical to our run game and we don't really have a guy that can stretch the middle of the field in the passing game.

I want a TE because it is critical to our current offense.

Do I want to use a 1st? Not really. I would definitely use a 2nd though. Offensive tackle is also a high priority for me as well.

 

[stilltheguru88]

I completely disagree.

I would've agreed with you in the past but not anymore.

When we were using a power run scheme it was non-sense to draft these TE's over and over.

Now setting the edge for our zone run scheme is critical to our run game and we don't really have a guy that can stretch the middle of the field in the passing game.

I want a TE because it is critical to our current offense.

Do I want to use a 1st? Not really. I would definitely use a 2nd though. Offensive tackle is also a high priority for me as well.

well agree to disagree. I'd use the 4th rounder on tight end. We looked fine with Witten and Swaim

 

[CATCH17]

well agree to disagree. I'd use the 4th rounder on tight end. We looked fine with Witten and Swaim

Yeah it was fine but Witten is going to be 37 years old next year and as good as he is he doesn't offer hardly anything except for underneath routes. He doesn't get down field and stretch the seem well.

Also his skills as a blocker are slowly diminishing.

Wittens the man but I can't imagine him playing at a high level much longer and the TE is crucial for us.

Geoff Swaim will not cut it. We need quality there. We can get by with Swaim as a backup but another TE could really be great for several parts of this offense.

 

[RandyOh]

I completely disagree.

I would've agreed with you in the past but not anymore.

When we were using a power run scheme it was non-sense to draft these TE's over and over.

Now setting the edge for our zone run scheme is critical to our run game and we don't really have a guy that can stretch the middle of the field in the passing game.

I want a TE because it is critical to our current offense.

Do I want to use a 1st? Not really. I would definitely use a 2nd though. Offensive tackle is also a high priority for me as well.

Only thing Is the Offensive Tackle class is so weak this year that I don't think we have a chance at one early in the draft.

 

[CATCH17]

Only thing Is the Offensive Tackle class is so weak this year that I don't think we have a chance at one early in the draft.

I like Chaz Green but I do not trust the guy at all to stay healthy. He's never done it.

Maybe we could squeeze another year out of Free?

I like both of the USC tackles. I haven't looked at many of the others recently though.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Yeah it was fine but Witten is going to be 37 years old next year and as good as he is he doesn't offer hardly anything except for underneath routes. He doesn't get down field and stretch the seem well.

Also his skills as a blocker are slowly diminishing.

Wittens the man but I can't imagine him playing at a high level much longer and the TE is crucial for us.

Geoff Swaim will not cut it. We need quality there. We can get by with Swaim as a backup but another TE could really be great for several parts of this offense.

RICO

 

[CATCH17]

RICO

I hope.

He looked like a fish out of water during TC but the guy is in the perfect situation to get good.

He's a scary good athlete.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'm a believer in the BPA principle. Although we can exclude the QB, RB and Center positions at this point. We could still go after a guard or a right tackle. If we go guard, we could still solidify a strength of our team and move Collins to RT, lose Leary and have Collins and Chaz Green battle out for the RT spot.

It's one of the strengths of the BPA methodology...you can shuffle players around a little and take a strength of a team and make it stronger because players are not resting on their laurels. As strong as we are on the O-Line, imagine if we had a better guard than Leary (who I like and is pretty good) and were much improved at RT. That beats trying to fill a need with a player that is much more iffy when it comes to succeeding.

The positives of drafting say #30 thru #32 is that we can fill some needs and still find the BPA. This is a good spot for a MIKE (although I can see Damien Wilson becoming the MIKE next year). This is a good spot for a SS and zone corners. This draft is also supposed to be pass rusher heavy as well, so we could find a much better quality DE here than we would in other drafts. Or we may find that replacement for Witten who may have another year or two left, but we could draft a quality TE to take over for Swaim as he recovers and put Swaim in Escobar's spot.

Lots of good possibilities as long as we don't get trade happy and stick to the gameplan that has gotten us here.






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[RandyOh]

I like Chaz Green but I do not trust the guy at all to stay healthy. He's never done it.

Maybe we could squeeze another year out of Free?

I like both of the USC tackles. I haven't looked at many of the others recently though.

I think Free plays out his contract & they continue to work with with Green hoping that he's ready to take over if Frees play falls off a cliff at any time during season. I can see a late round developmental OT though like Jon Heck out NC or Storm Norton out of Toledo being picked.

I'm hoping we are able to fix our DE situation and find a long term solution at cornerback with free agency and draft so that OT and possibly TE or WR are our top needs in 2018 Draft.

 

[The Realist]

For me it depends who's on the board. My guy is Harold Landry. If he's there at #32 I'm not screwing around. He's my pick. Other defenders who I think are realistic and I'd take before trading down are Taco Charlton, Takkarist McKinley, Adoree Jackson, Ross, who I could see falling because of size and injury concerns, and King, who could slide because of underclassmen entering the draft. Henry won't last that long and I wouldn't take any other TE in round one, but Bucky Hodges is a 6'6" receiving TE in the Novacek mold who I think would be a steal at the end of round two (doubt he lasts that long). I'm not real big on trading out of the first, but Hodges and Landry are guys I'd be looking at if trading out were the plan.

Great minds think alike. Landry is me guy at 32.

We can't take a guy who is just a receiving TE. Escobar has great hands and runs excellent routes and we have no clue how to use him. Along with Bennett and Fasano before him. I think we will resign Witten for 1-2 years which will make any TE drafted high a wasted pick. No receiving TE's will ever get the ball with Witten here. None of these TE's in the draft can block.

 

[VACowboy]

Great minds think alike. Landry is me guy at 32.

We can't take a guy who is just a receiving TE. Escobar has great hands and runs excellent routes and we have no clue how to use him. Along with Bennett and Fasano before him. I think we will resign Witten for 1-2 years which will make any TE drafted high a wasted pick. No receiving TE's will ever get the ball with Witten here. None of these TE's in the draft can block.

Escobar can't run like Hodges. Hodges is really more of a 6'6" WR than a TE.

Sprinkle is a pretty good blocker.

 

[The Realist]

Escobar can't run like Hodges. Hodges is really more of a 6'6" WR than a TE.

Sprinkle is a pretty good blocker.

Escobar is a massive mismatch in the passing game. So was Bennett. Our coaches and play caller could care less. With Witten/Swaim/Hanna any TE would be a wasted pick for 2-3 years when Witten retires. If we force a pick on the roster he either won't be able to block like Hodges or the horrendous Clemson kid. Drafting Sprinkle would be adding. Swaim blocker in the 3rd round. I don't see the point.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Escobar is a massive mismatch in the passing game. So was Bennett. Our coaches and play caller could care less. With Witten/Swaim/Hanna any TE would be a wasted pick for 2-3 years when Witten retires. If we force a pick on the roster he either won't be able to block like Hodges or the horrendous Clemson kid. Drafting Sprinkle would be adding. Swaim blocker in the 3rd round. I don't see the point.

Honestly this all depends on what Gathers looks like. We aren't privy to watch his development so............

But if he is looking capable there would be no point in drafting a tight end imo

 

[The Realist]

Honestly this all depends on what Gathers looks like. We aren't privy to watch his development so............

But if he is looking capable there would be no point in drafting a tight end imo

I'm of the opinion that Rico's best fit is OT and that he will ultimately play there ala Jeremy Parnell. He's listed at 290 now vs 275 when we drafted him and affording to Broaddus he is playing some RT on scout team. Seems like a natural and easier move given he is used to sliding his feet playing hoops on D. When he fills out to 6-7/310 he'll have great size, length and athleticism for the position. Parnell was listed at 245 pounds when he played hoops at Ole Miss.

http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/parnell_jermey00.html

 

[roughneck266]

I would target an injured player with that pick.

We really need an injured TE with a drug problem there, to truly do some good.

 

[Hardline]

If we select a tight end round 1 I'll be disgusted. None of those dudes can even block smh.

You could get a guy like Jeremy sprinkle from Arkansas mid round who can actually block and be fine at the position. This tight end stuff in Dallas has to stop.

Unless you can get Jake Butt or O.J.Howard. then you have your next pro bowl TE .

 

[stilltheguru88]

Unless you can get Jake Butt or O.J.Howard. then you have your next pro bowl TE .

Yawn. If they can't block I don't care.

 

[Hardline]

Yawn. If they can't block I don't care.

The good news is they can block.