Dallas Top 5 money players for stretch run

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I am believer in that if you get paid more than your piers - you should perform better than your piers. Here is look at top 5 paid player for Dallas to keep eye on during stretch run:

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1. Tony Romo (Avg Salary = $18 million)
2. Tyron Smith (Avg Salary = 12.2 million)
3. Brandon Carr (Avg Salary = 10 million)
4. Jason Witten (Avg Salary = 7.4 million)
5. Henry Melton (Avg Salary = 6.8 million)

** Sean Lee at $7 million is excluded because he wont be playing in this game.
 

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Carr has been a big disappointment and fully expect Dallas to have him take a cut in pay or release him. At this point I would just as soon have Scandrick and Moore as the starting CB with Carr being the 3rd
 

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I am believer in that if you get paid more than your piers - you should perform better than your piers. Here is look at top 5 paid player for Dallas to keep eye on during stretch run:

Average Salary
1. Tony Romo (Avg Salary = $18 million)
2. Tyron Smith (Avg Salary = 12.2 million)
3. Brandon Carr (Avg Salary = 10 million)
4. Jason Witten (Avg Salary = 7.4 million)
5. Henry Melton (Avg Salary = 6.8 million)

** Sean Lee at $7 million is excluded because he wont be playing in this game.

But how does a pier perform better than another pier?:oops:
 

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Carr needs to be gone next year. Even if he took a pay cut, we could get someone better than him for dirt cheap. We just need to move on. It was a bad deal.

And, as much as I like Witten, he isn't the 4th best/most valuable player on the team and he shouldn't be paid like it. You could argue that he gets in the way of guys like Escobar, Hanna, and even Beasley and Harris getting more touches. If he wants to stay with Dallas, he needs to take a pay cut to the vet minimum.

I like Melton. He provides a lot when he plays. But he plays a low number of snaps compared to other DTs. He shouldn't be the 5th highest paid guy on the team. Plus, the deal we struck with him, he should be getting paid even more next year. Either take a pay cut, or play more snaps, or find a new team.
 

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I am believer in that if you get paid more than your piers - you should perform better than your piers. Here is look at top 5 paid player for Dallas to keep eye on during stretch run:

Average Salary
1. Tony Romo (Avg Salary = $18 million)
2. Tyron Smith (Avg Salary = 12.2 million)
3. Brandon Carr (Avg Salary = 10 million)
4. Jason Witten (Avg Salary = 7.4 million)
5. Henry Melton (Avg Salary = 6.8 million)

** Sean Lee at $7 million is excluded because he wont be playing in this game.

I understand where you're coming from, but I'm a believer that if your top players aren't playing to their salary, then the player probably didn't underperform, the club probably overpaid. I know there have been instances where players' performance declined after getting a new deals, but I think there a far more instances of clubs simply overpaying. Bottom line, I don't blame a player for getting paid what they get paid any more than I blame a player for where he got drafted.
 

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Coming into his season i'd probably say those are probably our best players on this team. Only guys missing would've been Dez and Demarco who are on their rookie deals. Carr has been disappointing. Huge fan of the guy personally and you keep hoping he gets out of this rut but it doesn't seem to be working in his favor. I'll root for him his season. We need him to be the Carr he's capable of being. The guys confidence is just shot. He and Claiborne.....just not sure why these guys confidence has been shot so bad. I'm not convinced they can't play in this league. In Carr's case, he's proven it.

But even if Carr played to his capabilities and was a top 10 corner in this league....I think you'd still have to look to him taking a pay cut or being outright cut.
 

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Really a "peer group" means players of the same position.
 

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I understand where you're coming from, but I'm a believer that if your top players aren't playing to their salary, then the player probably didn't underperform, the club probably overpaid. I know there have been instances where players' performance declined after getting a new deals, but I think there a far more instances of clubs simply overpaying. Bottom line, I don't blame a player for getting paid what they get paid any more than I blame a player for where he got drafted.

That's just how the NFL is built. ITs built to overpay. In order to retain players you have to overpay. The only time you get value is when guys are on their rookie deals and contributing. When its time for them to become free agents its overpaying time. So may be we need re-think what overpaying is. What we consider overpaying is probably what the value is.
 

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But how does a pier perform better than another pier?:oops:

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That's just how the NFL is built. ITs built to overpay. In order to retain players you have to overpay. The only time you get value is when guys are on their rookie deals and contributing. When its time for them to become free agents its overpaying time. So may be we need re-think what overpaying is. What we consider overpaying is probably what the value is.

And that, my friend, is Economics 101...the law of supply and demand. In the case of the NFL, though, the equilibrium point is continually shifting.
 

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The ugly truth: Witten is overpaid

Part of me wants to agree, but Witten still is playing at a very high level in terms of his all around game, blocking especially. He just is not getting the monster 12 reception games anymore.
 

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And, as much as I like Witten, he isn't the 4th best/most valuable player on the team and he shouldn't be paid like it. You could argue that he gets in the way of guys like Escobar, Hanna, and even Beasley and Harris getting more touches. If he wants to stay with Dallas, he needs to take a pay cut to the vet minimum.

LOL. Good one bro.
 

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Nauseates me every time I read it.

Remember how excited everyone was when it happened?

Then we followed that whopper with the Morris Claiborne trade.

It reminded me of drafting Quincy Carter and then....oh yeah, you think that was bad? watch this.....taking Tony Dixon with the other 2nd round pick.

That 2012 offseason was one of the worst in the Jerry era. Huge resources absolutely wasted and I don't even think they know how flawed that philosophy was. They probably just think they targeted the wrong players.
 

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Remember how excited everyone was when it happened?

Then we followed that whopper with the Morris Claiborne trade.
Was skeptical of the Carr signing but then the full bozo with the Claiborne trade was incredible. I was even willing to concede the "market value" argument due to what Finnegan got, but doing what we did and then spending what we did to get Claiborne was simply a punch in the gut.

That 2012 offseason was one of the worst in the Jerry era. Huge resources absolutely wasted and I don't even think they know how flawed that philosophy was. They probably just think they targeted the wrong players

Actually just blame it on Rob Ryan. It is supposedly to make it easier to accept.
 

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So here is each of those players and how their salaries stack up vs their peers (other players at the same position):

Romo__8th highest salary, 14th highest cap hit
Smith__1st highest salary, 18th highest cap hit
Carr__5th highest salary, 1st highest cap hit
Witten__3rd highest salary, 1st highest cap hit
Melton__6th highest slary, > 25th highest cap hit.

The red flags are Carr and Witten.
I assumed Carr wasn't re-worked (still high cap hit) because they were dumping him after this year.
But I didn't realize they didn't re-work Witten's deal. Interesting.
Smith has the highest salary this year, but his deal is very team friendly. Unless he re-does it later, this'll be the last year his annual salary/bonus allocation is tops.
Romo's falls in line with the market...and on the filed he actually outperforms it vs his peers. But it could be argued that it was risky given his health.
 

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Remember how excited everyone was when it happened?

Then we followed that whopper with the Morris Claiborne trade.

It reminded me of drafting Quincy Carter and then....oh yeah, you think that was bad? watch this.....taking Tony Dixon with the other 2nd round pick.

That 2012 offseason was one of the worst in the Jerry era. Huge resources absolutely wasted and I don't even think they know how flawed that philosophy was. They probably just think they targeted the wrong players.
I recall how pissed you were.

Jerry had to agree to it, so he gets the ultimate blame. Or at least him and the scouts that sold him.
And for sure Rob Ryan's thumbprint was all over it as well
 

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I recall how pissed you were.

Jerry had to agree to it, so he gets the ultimate blame. Or at least him and the scouts that sold him.
And for sure Rob Ryan's thumbprint was all over it as well

It was a huge mistake that set the team back. Every time I want to feel good about the Garrett regime I think about that offseason. Everyone who agreed with that should have been immediately fired.
 
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