Dalm's way to early draft and Cowboys moves for 2022

[Dalmations202]

PFN Draft:
25. Jordan Davis DL Georgia
59. Brandon Smith LB Penn State
90. Trey McBride TE Colorado State
127. John Metchie III WR Alabama
142. Emil Ekiyor OG Alabama
169. Michael Clemons DE/OLB Texas A&M
205. Siaki Ika DT Baylor

Resign: R Gregory, J Kearse, C Watkins, Turner, Restricted Hyatt and Bernard and the deep snapper.
Let the rest go to include Vander Esch, Gallup, Schultz, C Williams, etc.

One big FA signing: Von Miller

On D:
Draft Capital spent on Jordan Davis and huge S Ika. Davis, Ika, Bohanna fight for 1T spots.
3T has Hill, Gallimore, and Osa battling it out.
Edge has Von Miller, Lawrence (who will move inside some), Gregory, Basham, Golston, and Clemons who might be able to play a Parsons type role as well. Clemons does get after the QB.
CWatkins is the guy who could play anywhere up and down the line.

Brandon Smith plays with J Cox and Parsons. Bernard back one more year for ST and to prove he belongs. You also have Neal signed for another year or resign him. (conflicting information)
Kearse, Wilson, and (I would move Neal back to play safety some as well.) Kazee and Hooker didn't do much for me this year.
Diggs, KJoseph, Brown, Lewis all signed for another year. NWright and Mukuamu are still signed and will be part of the DB's.

I think these players would allow Dallas to play any defense they wanted and still get pressure and stop the run as needed. Nickel, Dime, 3-4, 4-3, wide 9, 70 -- playmakers at each level, and definite ability to confuse as to who is coming from where while being able to anchor against the run. Miller, Lawrence, Davis/Ika, Watkins, Gregory with Parsons and Smith would leave OC's wondering who the MLB is, who is rushing vs dropping, having to get the ball out quick and pocket collapsing soon. Do Miller or Gregory have the flats or a back, or just coming? Is Lawrence and Watkins coming or dropping in the short zone to stop the quick slant? Which, if either or neither of the LB's is coming or covering zones? This would be a wonderful time to be a DC for Dallas.

Trey McBride is 260, catches well, but more importantly blocks well. He eventually replaces Jarwin altogether, but works with him till Jarwin contract runs out.
We wanted a speed guy, Metchie definitely has that, if he comes off the ACL tear, he is a steal here. WR become CeeDee and Coop starting with Metchie the #3. Simi the #4. Vasher the Red Zone specialist, and Turner the guy to activate when injuries happen. N Brown and C Wilson gone, need to churn not be content.
Ekiyor is another Alabama lineman - who very well could be starting over McGovern very shortly. Smith, McGovern, Biadaz, Martin, Collins, with Steele, Ball, Farinok and Ekiyor seems like all you could ask for. Hyatt is on his last chance. Prove you have the strength and can play or more churning next year.

QB, you have too much invested in Dak to do anything but try to upgrade your backups.
Zeke stays due to contract and Pollard is under contract another year, so no one else is really going to
get any burn here either way, so it will be another year on this one.

I think the talent is here to win the Superbowl. Not sure about coaching, determination, and discipline, but the talent would be there, IMO.

What are your thoughts?

 

[timb2]

PFN Draft:
25. Jordan Davis DL Georgia
59. Brandon Smith LB Penn State
90. Trey McBride TE Colorado State
127. John Metchie III WR Alabama
142. Emil Ekiyor OG Alabama
169. Michael Clemons DE/OLB Texas A&M
205. Siaki Ika DT Baylor

Resign: R Gregory, J Kearse, C Watkins, Turner, Restricted Hyatt and Bernard and the deep snapper.
Let the rest go to include Vander Esch, Gallup, Schultz, C Williams, etc.

One big FA signing: Von Miller

On D:
Draft Capital spent on Jordan Davis and huge S Ika. Davis, Ika, Bohanna fight for 1T spots.
3T has Hill, Gallimore, and Osa battling it out.
Edge has Von Miller, Lawrence (who will move inside some), Gregory, Basham, Golston, and Clemons who might be able to play a Parsons type role as well. Clemons does get after the QB.
CWatkins is the guy who could play anywhere up and down the line.

Brandon Smith plays with J Cox and Parsons. Bernard back one more year for ST and to prove he belongs. You also have Neal signed for another year or resign him. (conflicting information)
Kearse, Wilson, and (I would move Neal back to play safety some as well.) Kazee and Hooker didn't do much for me this year.
Diggs, KJoseph, Brown, Lewis all signed for another year. NWright and Mukuamu are still signed and will be part of the DB's.

I think these players would allow Dallas to play any defense they wanted and still get pressure and stop the run as needed. Nickel, Dime, 3-4, 4-3, wide 9, 70 -- playmakers at each level, and definite ability to confuse as to who is coming from where while being able to anchor against the run. Miller, Lawrence, Davis/Ika, Watkins, Gregory with Parsons and Smith would leave OC's wondering who the MLB is, who is rushing vs dropping, having to get the ball out quick and pocket collapsing soon. Do Miller or Gregory have the flats or a back, or just coming? Is Lawrence and Watkins coming or dropping in the short zone to stop the quick slant? Which, if either or neither of the LB's is coming or covering zones? This would be a wonderful time to be a DC for Dallas.

Trey McBride is 260, catches well, but more importantly blocks well. He eventually replaces Jarwin altogether, but works with him till Jarwin contract runs out.
We wanted a speed guy, Metchie definitely has that, if he comes off the ACL tear, he is a steal here. WR become CeeDee and Coop starting with Metchie the #3. Simi the #4. Vasher the Red Zone specialist, and Turner the guy to activate when injuries happen. N Brown and C Wilson gone, need to churn not be content.
Ekiyor is another Alabama lineman - who very well could be starting over McGovern very shortly. Smith, McGovern, Biadaz, Martin, Collins, with Steele, Ball, Farinok and Ekiyor seems like all you could ask for. Hyatt is on his last chance. Prove you have the strength and can play or more churning next year.

QB, you have too much invested in Dak to do anything but try to upgrade your backups.
Zeke stays due to contract and Pollard is under contract another year, so no one else is really going to
get any burn here either way, so it will be another year on this one.

I think the talent is here to win the Superbowl. Not sure about coaching, determination, and discipline, but the talent would be there, IMO.

What are your thoughts?

Don't think Jordan Davis will be there at #25 especially after winning the Outland Trophy

 

[Word Mofo]

Don't think Jordan Davis will be there at #25 especially after winning the Outland Trophy

Every pick in that draft is 1 round too late.

 

[Xavier187]

I'm not against anything you have wrote.


I think we need to look at a OT S and LB first three picks. DT could be the fourth.

 

[cnuball21]

You can’t draft a 2 down DT in the first 2 rounds…

 

[Dalmations202]

You can’t draft a 2 down DT in the first 2 rounds…

I can. I think eliminating the up the gut run and getting your defense to third and long (so they can get off the field) is the name of the game. If Dallas can find a 1T that truly demands a double team most downs.......you win.

You call it two down. I say if they are in there on third down and can push the pocket back, that your DE's and OLB's lives become that much easier. Vince Wilfolk played lots of 3rd downs as a true 1T and was very productive -- even though he didn't play every down. Play makers that can help the overall team are good to have and rotate in any time.

 

[Dalmations202]

I'm not against anything you have wrote.


I think we need to look at a OT S and LB first three picks. DT could be the fourth.

I can see where you are coming from, but here is my opinion.

Let's see you have Smith, Collins, Steele and Ball under contract as OT. So draft a developmental guy yes, and even if you have one that is top of your board, by all means draft him. But no, OT is not a definite need, IMO. If Smith retires, I think Collins can move left, Steele can be RT, and you tell me if Ball or even Hyatt can play -- but you have them already under contract.

Safety -- if you resign Kearse, and keep Wilson -- I am not crazy about Hooker and Kazee, but they are currently on the team. Neal can play some safety. NWright and Mukuamu might be moved there. While I don't have a problem if a S is at the top of the board, I can't see this as a huge need -- but would love to see a ballhawking FS taken high if available.

LB -- I agree here. Parsons is one LB at least part time. JCox is one. Neal is a part time one. Yes they need one more. One with ability to somewhat mimic Parsons would be perfect. One that could interchange and make teams question whether Parsons is the MLB or the other one -- that is why I chose Smith -- speed, strength, and instincts he seems to have.

IMO -- Need a LB, DT, TE and WR (if Gallup leaves) high in the draft. Need OL to develop.
Right now LB to play with Parsons is a need. DT to cause havoc and demand a double team could take this defense to another level. A TE that can block as well as have great hands and instincts would make the offense be able to run and be better in the passing game. A WR -- specifically one to replace Gallup who can take the top off, or is extremely quick/fast to play the #3 would be excellent.

OL and FS are definite things to develop and if available could be good additions -- but would need to be highest on the board for me to actually pick them.

 

[cnuball21]

I can. I think eliminating the up the gut run and getting your defense to third and long (so they can get off the field) is the name of the game. If Dallas can find a 1T that truly demands a double team most downs.......you win.

You call it two down. I say if they are in there on third down and can push the pocket back, that your DE's and OLB's lives become that much easier. Vince Wilfolk played lots of 3rd downs as a true 1T and was very productive -- even though he didn't play every down. Play makers that can help the overall team are good to have and rotate in any time.

But that’s the problem…he doesn’t push the pocket back. He doesn’t offer pass rush…Wilfork did.

I like the player, but it is terrible value spending premium draft capital on someone like him.

 

[Malhavoc]

But that’s the problem…he doesn’t push the pocket back. He doesn’t offer pass rush…Wilfork did.

I like the player, but it is terrible value spending premium draft capital on someone like him.

I agree. If he was a Vita Vea type of player it would be a different story.

 

[Thomas82]

I just can't see drafting a 26-year-old Jordan Davis, but I would definitely root for him if we did.

 

[Thomas82]

I just can't see drafting a 26-year-old Jordan Davis, but I would definitely root for him if we did.

Come to find out, Wiki has changed his age to 22.

 

[Acceptablename]

I can see where you are coming from, but here is my opinion.

Let's see you have Smith, Collins, Steele and Ball under contract as OT. So draft a developmental guy yes, and even if you have one that is top of your board, by all means draft him. But no, OT is not a definite need, IMO. If Smith retires, I think Collins can move left, Steele can be RT, and you tell me if Ball or even Hyatt can play -- but you have them already under contract.

Safety -- if you resign Kearse, and keep Wilson -- I am not crazy about Hooker and Kazee, but they are currently on the team. Neal can play some safety. NWright and Mukuamu might be moved there. While I don't have a problem if a S is at the top of the board, I can't see this as a huge need -- but would love to see a ballhawking FS taken high if available.

LB -- I agree here. Parsons is one LB at least part time. JCox is one. Neal is a part time one. Yes they need one more. One with ability to somewhat mimic Parsons would be perfect. One that could interchange and make teams question whether Parsons is the MLB or the other one -- that is why I chose Smith -- speed, strength, and instincts he seems to have.

IMO -- Need a LB, DT, TE and WR (if Gallup leaves) high in the draft. Need OL to develop.
Right now LB to play with Parsons is a need. DT to cause havoc and demand a double team could take this defense to another level. A TE that can block as well as have great hands and instincts would make the offense be able to run and be better in the passing game. A WR -- specifically one to replace Gallup who can take the top off, or is extremely quick/fast to play the #3 would be excellent.

OL and FS are definite things to develop and if available could be good additions -- but would need to be highest on the board for me to actually pick them.

Who is starting LG

 

[Dalmations202]

Who is starting LG

Collins, McGovern, Ekiyor, Farinok, Alarcon, or Hyatt. They can battle it out.

If Steele at RT and Collins is already on the left side, maybe McGovern is the guy who comes in when Smith gets hurt -- and Collins moves outside. Maybe McGovern is much better on the right side, and Martin moves to the left. Maybe Farinok is a better center and moves Biadsz to LG.

Maybe they resign CWilliams to a middling contract and he stays. I just expect him to get a bigger contract offer than Dallas is willing to pay.

Lots of options for the OL for next year.

 

[darthseinfeld]

PFN Draft:
25. Jordan Davis DL Georgia
59. Brandon Smith LB Penn State
90. Trey McBride TE Colorado State
127. John Metchie III WR Alabama
142. Emil Ekiyor OG Alabama
169. Michael Clemons DE/OLB Texas A&M
205. Siaki Ika DT Baylor

Resign: R Gregory, J Kearse, C Watkins, Turner, Restricted Hyatt and Bernard and the deep snapper.
Let the rest go to include Vander Esch, Gallup, Schultz, C Williams, etc.

One big FA signing: Von Miller

On D:
Draft Capital spent on Jordan Davis and huge S Ika. Davis, Ika, Bohanna fight for 1T spots.
3T has Hill, Gallimore, and Osa battling it out.
Edge has Von Miller, Lawrence (who will move inside some), Gregory, Basham, Golston, and Clemons who might be able to play a Parsons type role as well. Clemons does get after the QB.
CWatkins is the guy who could play anywhere up and down the line.

Brandon Smith plays with J Cox and Parsons. Bernard back one more year for ST and to prove he belongs. You also have Neal signed for another year or resign him. (conflicting information)
Kearse, Wilson, and (I would move Neal back to play safety some as well.) Kazee and Hooker didn't do much for me this year.
Diggs, KJoseph, Brown, Lewis all signed for another year. NWright and Mukuamu are still signed and will be part of the DB's.

I think these players would allow Dallas to play any defense they wanted and still get pressure and stop the run as needed. Nickel, Dime, 3-4, 4-3, wide 9, 70 -- playmakers at each level, and definite ability to confuse as to who is coming from where while being able to anchor against the run. Miller, Lawrence, Davis/Ika, Watkins, Gregory with Parsons and Smith would leave OC's wondering who the MLB is, who is rushing vs dropping, having to get the ball out quick and pocket collapsing soon. Do Miller or Gregory have the flats or a back, or just coming? Is Lawrence and Watkins coming or dropping in the short zone to stop the quick slant? Which, if either or neither of the LB's is coming or covering zones? This would be a wonderful time to be a DC for Dallas.

Trey McBride is 260, catches well, but more importantly blocks well. He eventually replaces Jarwin altogether, but works with him till Jarwin contract runs out.
We wanted a speed guy, Metchie definitely has that, if he comes off the ACL tear, he is a steal here. WR become CeeDee and Coop starting with Metchie the #3. Simi the #4. Vasher the Red Zone specialist, and Turner the guy to activate when injuries happen. N Brown and C Wilson gone, need to churn not be content.
Ekiyor is another Alabama lineman - who very well could be starting over McGovern very shortly. Smith, McGovern, Biadaz, Martin, Collins, with Steele, Ball, Farinok and Ekiyor seems like all you could ask for. Hyatt is on his last chance. Prove you have the strength and can play or more churning next year.

QB, you have too much invested in Dak to do anything but try to upgrade your backups.
Zeke stays due to contract and Pollard is under contract another year, so no one else is really going to
get any burn here either way, so it will be another year on this one.

I think the talent is here to win the Superbowl. Not sure about coaching, determination, and discipline, but the talent would be there, IMO.

What are your thoughts?

If Davis is battling Bohanna for anything, then he is already a wasted pick

 

[darthseinfeld]

But that’s the problem…he doesn’t push the pocket back. He doesn’t offer pass rush…Wilfork did.

I like the player, but it is terrible value spending premium draft capital on someone like him.

Long term Mathis might even be a better big DT. I dont necessarily trust the high sack count this year(See Davis, Raekwan 2017 ). However he offers more potential as a legit 3 down big DT in the Hankins, Tomlimson or Payne mold. And he is probably a day 2 guy. Maybe even a 3rd rounder

 

[Dalmations202]

If Davis is battling Bohanna for anything, then he is already a wasted pick

Didn't say it would be much of a battle, but often times linemen are much better year 2 or 3 as their muscles harden with age getting them up closer to 25.

JDavis is just bigger and faster than Mathis according what what I have read. But if Mathis has the better work ethic, I wouldn't be against him on Dallas D.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Didn't say it would be much of a battle, but often times linemen are much better year 2 or 3 as their muscles harden with age getting them up closer to 25.

JDavis is just bigger and faster than Mathis according what what I have read. But if Mathis has the better work ethic, I wouldn't be against him on Dallas D.

Mathis actually has pass rush production. Pass rush ability is alot more than just size and speed.

Davis is probably a guy that plays 40% snaps in the NFL. Thats about how much guys with his skill set play. In Dallas he will get replaced by Gallimore, Odighizuwa or Hill on passing downs. You dont spend a 1st round pick on a guy who is only going to be on the field 40% of the time

 

[Dalmations202]

Mathis actually has pass rush production. Pass rush ability is alot more than just size and speed.

Davis is probably a guy that plays 40% snaps in the NFL. Thats about how much guys with his skill set play. In Dallas he will get replaced by Gallimore, Odighizuwa or Hill on passing downs. You dont spend a 1st round pick on a guy who is only going to be on the field 40% of the time

If he is BPA on my board, and I don't have a LB or TE available that would be able to start. I take him in a heartbeat.
Defenses have changed for years. Wilfolk didn't come off the field on 3rd downs -- he shoved 2 guys backwards usually destroying the pocket and making the QB not be able to step up so the DE's got there, or made two guys block him allowing for LB to come and all the other OL to be manned up. I have huge respect for the big guys that do much of the work for no glory. Drive a guard into the tackle and see if the DE can loop inside (Vea is great at this one). Sacks happen, they just aren't given to the guy who made the lane for the quick guy to get the sack. Your 3T who is singled up because of the 1T demanding the double team is the one who needs all the pass rush skills.

If you have the guy who is a playmaker, and can do the dirty work that doesn't see the stat lines --- and I am NOT saying Davis is that guy -- then you are at a huge advantage when it comes to designing and playing the D. I haven't watched Davis but one time and he was very good that game. I just know he is rated highly and a trophy winner.

 

[darthseinfeld]

If he is BPA on my board, and I don't have a LB or TE available that would be able to start. I take him in a heartbeat.
Defenses have changed for years. Wilfolk didn't come off the field on 3rd downs -- he shoved 2 guys backwards usually destroying the pocket and making the QB not be able to step up so the DE's got there, or made two guys block him allowing for LB to come and all the other OL to be manned up. I have huge respect for the big guys that do much of the work for no glory. Drive a guard into the tackle and see if the DE can loop inside (Vea is great at this one). Sacks happen, they just aren't given to the guy who made the lane for the quick guy to get the sack. Your 3T who is singled up because of the 1T demanding the double team is the one who needs all the pass rush skills.

If you have the guy who is a playmaker, and can do the dirty work that doesn't see the stat lines --- and I am NOT saying Davis is that guy -- then you are at a huge advantage when it comes to designing and playing the D. I haven't watched Davis but one time and he was very good that game. I just know he is rated highly and a trophy winner.

Teams dont rush 1T's often anymore, they play two 3T's on passing downs. And thats if they dont kick a DE inside.

Wilfork was relevant a decade ago. There are a few big guys that play every down. Vea is a planet player, who is a 340 lb player that has the ability to play a 1T or a 3T spot. Payne is probably the next best 3 down big DT and he plays on a bad defense surrounded by talent. The Jordan Davis type isnt what it was. Definitely not a key part to a legitimately good defense

 

[Dalmations202]

Teams dont rush 1T's often anymore, they play two 3T's on passing downs. And thats if they dont kick a DE inside.

Wilfork was relevant a decade ago. There are a few big guys that play every down. Vea is a planet player, who is a 340 lb player that has the ability to play a 1T or a 3T spot. Payne is probably the next best 3 down big DT and he plays on a bad defense surrounded by talent. The Jordan Davis type isnt what it was. Definitely not a key part to a legitimately good defense

The league is a copy cat league --- as long as you can get the talent. On offense it was whether big linemen or athletic zone blockers -- all of them work if you have the best talent and coaching.

Defenses will change as well.