Dan Quinn and Kellen Moore are one win from the NFCCG

[Loso86]

The scary thing is it could take 2-3 years to compete for the division again.
** All the Eagles elites are locked up for another 1-2 years
** Commanders are cooking with a rookie QB and $100M + cap space in 2025. BTW....remember reports earlier in the season that lots of free agents were telling their agents they wanted to play for the Commanders? Pure speculation here but I'm expecting Quinn to trade for either Garrett or Crosby.

Maybe we always play them good though even when we're are struggling

 

[Cowboys5217]

Not sure the point of posts like these (on Twitter, not here). Quinn had a much better team than us, with Daniels and a bunch of FAs to fill holes. But they're still going to get curb stomped by Detroit next week.

And Kellen is on an incredibly talented team. We didn't have these posts last year when he was doing nothing at the Chargers.

He took over a perennial loser that went 4-13 last year.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The turn around in Washington had much more to do with getting rid of their version of Jerry Jones. Team turned around immediately from 4-13 to winning a playoff game.

The same thing would happen for Dallas if we could get rid of Jones.

Snyder was terrible, but the new owners wouldn't be winning playoff games if they were still starting Sam Howell.

 

[dstew60105]

For divisional rivalry teams......let that sink in
*Quinn's first year as the Commander's head coach ( rookie QB )
* Kellen's first year as the Eagles OC ( RB with over 2000 yards rushing )
* Cowboys are struggling to reach 500 ( with the highest-paid player/QB in the league)

The point is ........Quinn and Kellen were never the problems

You overlooked a boatload of injuries, including Dak.

 

[CowboysRule]

The Cowboys have been a dysfunctional organization for a long time and it’s not going to change anytime soon no matter what any other organizations do or don’t do. ALL hope is gone and there’s no light at the end of the tunnel. A turn around will only begin when the idiot is removed from the equation OR a generational QB is drafted. We’ll never know because dumb and dumber never invest in that position.

Come on now. They never invest in the QB position? We have the highest paid QB in history. Was it a bad investment? Yes. But an investment all the same.

 

[charron]

Crazy what can happen when front offices are proactive and are active in free agency to bring in more talent combined with good coaching staffs.

 

[Blackspider214]

Kellen Moore reared its ugly head yesterday. Eagles were fortunate GB's offense was atrocious and they handed them 3 turnovers. He was absolutely a problem here and was yesterday but it didn't matter in the end. Kellen did nothing yesterday he hadn't already did here, win a wild card game against an inferior opponent. Eagles winning yesterday doesn't change that fact.

Dan Quinn's defense was a huge issue come playoff time, too here. Yesterday doesn't erase any of that.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Snyder was terrible, but the new owners wouldn't be winning playoff games if they were still starting Sam Howell.

Maybe, maybe not, but Daniels averaged 7.7 yards per throw and 2.8 yards per carry last night for an offense that put up 23 points. Good young player, but lets not pretend like Jayden Daniels has been a one man wrecking crew all year. At times he has, but hes also had his rookie struggles as well. Washington actually went out and proactively filled holes on both sides of the football.

Plus Washington has taken multiple 1st round QBs under the previous ownership and had Kirk Cousins mixed in there and still didn't win much. Bad organizations seem to struggle to develop their talent and why Baker Mayfields and Sam Darnolds can be playoff caliber QBs after looking like busts in Cleveland/New York.

 

[Diehardblues]

The turn around in Washington had much more to do with getting rid of their version of Jerry Jones. Team turned around immediately from 4-13 to winning a playoff game.

The same thing would happen for Dallas if we could get rid of Jones.

That’s assuming we brought in the right talent and coaching.

Greater ownership provides the opportunity for more success, it doesn’t guarantee it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Correct. Anyone can solo or collectively create a list of ALL the problems Dallas has had for decades per season. Jerry Jones should start off any list. Listing any coach (even Dave Campo) above him or omitting Jones altogether invalidates the entire process.

The only way to overcome a dysfunctional owner like Jethro is to have the best overall talent . Which it still cost us a championship in 1994.

 

[Diehardblues]

Maybe, maybe not, but Daniels averaged 7.7 yards per throw and 2.8 yards per carry last night for an offense that put up 23 points. Good young player, but lets not pretend like Jayden Daniels has been a one man wrecking crew all year. At times he has, but hes also had his rookie struggles as well. Washington actually went out and proactively filled holes on both sides of the football.

Plus Washington has taken multiple 1st round QBs under the previous ownership and had Kirk Cousins mixed in there and still didn't win much. Bad organizations seem to struggle to develop their talent and why Baker Mayfields and Sam Darnolds can be playoff caliber QBs after looking like busts in Cleveland/New York.

It takes all of the above. Great FO, coaching and talent .

NFL is a talent driven league. And why some coaches haven’t had as much success without it.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It seems to me that we are all saying the same thing. Quinn and Kellen haven't suddenly become quality coaches. They were always proven coaches. The difference is that they are both on teams that give them 100% support. They didn't have that here.......so as stated, they were never the problem.

 

[Diehardblues]

He took over a perennial loser that went 4-13 last year.

Yes, but this isn’t same roster thank went 4-13. Added a bunch of talent in FA, draft including 2nd overall pick on a QB.

Good coaching helps of course but couldn’t have done it without the addition of talent .

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It takes all of the above. Great FO, coaching and talent .

NFL is a talent driven league. And why some coaches haven’t had as much success without it.

100%.......it's called support. Is your owner/GM giving you all the support needed?

 

[Diehardblues]

It seems to me that we are all saying the same thing. Quinn and Kellen haven't suddenly become quality coaches. They were always proven coaches. The difference is that they are both on teams that give them 100% support. They didn't have that here.......so as stated, they were never the problem.

I’m not sure why anyone would argue DQ was a problem. It turned our defense into top 5. He was part of what success we had.

And Moore had a top 10 offense here . He was a scapegoat in Dallas.

Cowboys issues are more deeply rooted than coaching.

 

[Diehardblues]

100%.......it's called support. Is your owner/GM giving you all the support needed?

Of course not. He’s actually taking away from it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Cowboys issues has been lack of greater talent in key areas.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Of course not. He’s actually taking away from it.

Exactly.......Dez says it best here

 

[Diehardblues]

Exactly.......Dez says it best here

Not sure anyone is arguing what our core issue is in dysfunctional ownership.

But that doesn’t relinquish we also have weaknesses in talent at key positions.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I’m not sure why anyone would argue DQ was a problem. It turned our defense into top 5. He was part of what success we had.

And Moore had a top 10 offense here . He was a scapegoat in Dallas.

Cowboys issues are more deeply rooted than coaching.

Completely agree. DQs defense had its flaws in Dallas, but he was also creating a defense to help minimize the holes from Jerry not supplementing the roster. I don't think its any coincidence that as soon as DQ gets out of Dallas he goes and signs two of the top LBs from that free agent class. He understood the importance of the position, it was the GM who wanted to roll the dice on an high injury risk LVE and Damone Clark because it saved a few bucks.