Dan Reeves

[lostinomiya]

was supposed to be joinng in an advisory capacity but it all went belly up.

In retrospect (I know, I know..everything is easy in retrospect)....do you think he would be useful to have around valley ranch right now?

 

[Hostile]

was supposed to be joinng in an advisory capacity but it all went belly up.

In retrospect (I know, I know..everything is easy in retrospect)....do you think he would be useful to have around valley ranch right now?

Yes sir, I do. Reeves is no nonsense, old school, and discipline oriented.

Jerry flat out screwed up.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

of course

he would definitely give garrett a clue on how to run a offense

people are bashing wade but he has that defense playing solid right now

hes holding up his end so far this season it is the offense that has cost us with both bad play calling and turnovers.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Yes sir, I do. Reeves is no nonsense, old school, and discipline oriented.

Jerry flat out screwed up.

How can you say that Jerry screwed up by not bringing in Reeves, when you're the one who thinks Garrett is so wonderous that he should be more than the leagues highest paid assistant/offensive coordinator -- that he should be the next head coach? The fact is, Garret is not only the leagues most overrated assistant/offensive coordinator, he clearly could have benefited form Reeves saving him this season, just like Sporano did for him 2 years ago -- which was to actually coordinate and call the offensse to a 13-3 record.

 

[iceberg]

Yes sir, I do. Reeves is no nonsense, old school, and discipline oriented.

Jerry flat out screwed up.

so what was the reason he didn't stay again?

he didn't want to put in as many hours as the coaches is the last rumor i heard.

 

[Hostile]

so what was the reason he didn't stay again?

he didn't want to put in as many hours as the coaches is the last rumor i heard.

I honestly don't know the answer to that. Reeves did not want an hours clause in his contract. Jerry insists on them, all his people have them.

All I know is, they did not make it work and should have. IMO.

 

[iceberg]

I honestly don't know the answer to that. Reeves did not want an hours clause in his contract. Jerry insists on them, all his people have them.

All I know is, they did not make it work and should have. IMO.

devil in the details, huh?

if reeves didn't want to guarantee his hours, is he really old school as we'd like? or did he only want to work a lesser schedule and truly "advise"? both are good arguments.

dan wanted to put in a 20 hour week, jones wanted 40.

i don't know the answer either but i don't think it's because jones screwed up in as much as they had different ideas about the position.

 

[Hostile]

devil in the details, huh?

if reeves didn't want to guarantee his hours, is he really old school as we'd like? or did he only want to work a lesser schedule and truly "advise"? both are good arguments.

dan wanted to put in a 20 hour week, jones wanted 40.

i don't know the answer either but i don't think it's because jones screwed up in as much as they had different ideas about the position.

I think Reeves would have exceeded the hours clause, he just did not want it in the contract.

Jerry screwed up because the team needed an image boost. Reeves could have provided that.

 

[iceberg]

I think Reeves would have exceeded the hours clause, he just did not want it in the contract.

Jerry screwed up because the team needed an image boost. Reeves could have provided that.

probably. but then why make it an issue? both seem petty here yet the blame falls to jones alone.

they could have worked it out, *they* chose not to.

 

[Hostile]

probably. but then why make it an issue? both seem petty here yet the blame falls to jones alone.

they could have worked it out, *they* chose not to.

It is petty on both sides, but Jerry is trying to turn around the franchise. Reeves was merely trying to be part of that turnaround. Jerry's the one who says the buck stops with him. In this case that is exactly where it should start.

 

[iceberg]

It is petty on both sides, but Jerry is trying to turn around the franchise. Reeves was merely trying to be part of that turnaround. Jerry's the one who says the buck stops with him. In this case that is exactly where it should start.

but if reeves is old school and would likely work "more" hours, why did that become the issue?

it's a petty issue one side seems to get the blame for.

 

[Hostile]

but if reeves is old school and would likely work "more" hours, why did that become the issue?

it's a petty issue one side seems to get the blame for.

Well, then I am petty. Jerry has the power, Reeves didn't. He could have made it work and chose not to. Color me petty. I'll wear it.

 

[iceberg]

Well, then I am petty. Jerry has the power, Reeves didn't. He could have mad eit work and chose not to. Color me petty. I'll wear it.

sure. i don't disagree jones could quit being an idiot.

but if reeves working more hours than the coaches wasn't an issue, why did reeves make it one? if *they* can't get along there any hope of future success is not possible.

and by "petty" i mean the issue itself over who works how many hours is just like a line item in a contract both sides gave too much life to. if that is the case then it's likely that in itself was NOT the issue, just the blame.

 

[Hostile]

sure. i don't disagree jones could quit being an idiot.

but if reeves working more hours than the coaches wasn't an issue, why did reeves make it one? if *they* can't get along there any hope of future success is not possible.

I can't answer for Dan Reeves or his motives. I still put 10% on him and 90% on Jerry because Jerry calls the shots. If he wanted Reeves bad enough he could have made that clause go away. So all he did was get my hopes up and then trash them.

 

[iceberg]

I can't answer for Dan Reeves or his motives. I still put 10% on him and 90% on Jerry because Jerry calls the shots. If he wanted Reeves bad enough he could have made that clause go away. So all he did was get my hopes up and then trash them.

i put it 50/50.

jones said "i need you to committ to a stupid goal"
and reeves said "i'll easily meet that goal but i won't committ out of principle."

neither side had a reason to get hung up here, but they did. you can go on believing THIS was the issue or - to me, it went a lot deeper but this was the "excuse" they both chose to go by.

both men are smart. this is stupid.

it can't be why it didn't work, only what we were told.

 

[JonJon]

i put it 50/50.

jones said "i need you to committ to a stupid goal"
and reeves said "i'll easily meet that goal but i won't committ out of principle."

neither side had a reason to get hung up here, but they did. you can go on believing THIS was the issue or - to me, it went a lot deeper but this was the "excuse" they both chose to go by.

both men are smart. this is stupid.

it can't be why it didn't work, only what we were told.

Well whatever went on behind those closed doors, I bet it was grumpy old men-quality comedy in that office. Probably was a lot to do about nothing.

 

[CowboyManDan]

I was super dissappointed something didn't work out with Reeves. I thought it would have been good for our team then and think it would be good now.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

According to Star Mag, the clause said that Reeves had to work at least as many hours as Phillips and Garrett. Reeves didn't go for it.

 

[ndanger]

Well, then I am petty. Jerry has the power, Reeves didn't. He could have mad eit work and chose not to. Color me petty. I'll wear it.

You look petty in pink.....:

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The problem with the hours clause is it meant Reeves could be fired immediately if for even for one day, say, Jason Garrett was at the office longer than he was. It's a ludicrous clause and one Reeves had never had in 30 years of coaching. Reeves has a rep as a workaholic, not as a slacker, so this was an insult.

Jerry just threw a monkey wrench in the deal at the end. Maybe he didn't want any more dead money if he had to clean house next year (although I don't remember that Reeves was getting a multi-year deal). I still suspect Garrett didn't want an alpha male type like Reeves "helping" him.