Dane Brugler Updated Mock 02/01/16

[Dodger12]

I wouldn't call a player rated 7th a reach at #4, not in this draft at least, if that answers your question. I would have no problem taking Tunsil if he falls though.

If Tunsil falls and you don't want a QB, that's a perfect trade down scenario. OL is the least of our worries.

 

[texbumthelife]

The number is significant in the sense that we don't even sniff the QB position in any round. In addition, you've spent high picks for Lee and Carter.

In any event, to answer your question specifically, if I'm Cleavland, I pick QB every year until I got it right. The position is just that important. All other positions are meaningless unless you find a QB.

Damn Bruce Carter... That guy defies every argument. He's not good but he's not bad. It wasn't a bad pick but it wasn't good. He's an enigma wrapped in a paradox!

 

[texbumthelife]

If Tunsil falls and you don't want a QB, that's a perfect trade down scenario. OL is the least of our worries.

Every year people throw around "trade down" on this board like its a foregone conclusion that you're going to trade down and get value. It's not about addressing worries. Do that in free agency. It's about getting the best player in the draft at #4 and making a strength even stronger.

 

[pjtoadie]

I like Goff. I like Wentz. Give me either and I am not complaining.

This!

 

[waving monkey]

I wouldn't bother trying to get cute and trade back. Just take Goff or Lynch at #4, whoever you like more. Moving back risks teams like Philly or LA moving up past you. Just pick your guy and get ready for round 2.

correct plus Goff ain't chop liver
Goff will go high no sweat it's always QB's at the top

 

[Dodger12]

Every year people throw around "trade down" on this board like its a foregone conclusion that you're going to trade down and get value. It's not about addressing worries. Do that in free agency. It's about getting the best player in the draft at #4 and making a strength even stronger.

So you take a LT when we already have a franchise LT? That really doesn't make any sense. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should trade down with the obvious needs we have, especially at QB. But no way I take an OL with our pick. Having said that, we've done better recently trading down than we have trading up.

 

[texbumthelife]

So you take a LT when we already have a franchise LT? That really doesn't make any sense. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should trade down with the obvious needs we have, especially at QB. But no way I take an OL with our pick. Having said that, we've done better recently trading down than we have trading up.

Both players can play right tackle. This right tackle verus left tackle argument isn't what it used to be. You need guys who can protect the passer on both sides. It also opens up the same running plays to both sides of the formation when you've got great talent on both sides.

I'd take Tunsil and put him at right tackle and be the happiest kid on the block.

Let me also say, I don't think QB is this obvious glaring need that so many people her to. I fully expect three more years of Romo. I would be more than happy getting a good back-up in free agency and drafting a kid in the middle rounds.

 

[waving monkey]

If you like the QB, take him. Trading back and potentially having another team sneak in and crab him from underneath you would feel awful!

thats my fear. any other position you play your board but QB is the wild card at the top

 

[Rogerthat12]

Both players can play right tackle. This right tackle verus left tackle argument isn't what it used to be. You need guys who can protect the passer on both sides. It also opens up the same running plays to both sides of the formation when you've got great talent on both sides.

I'd take Tunsil and put him at right tackle and be the happiest kid on the block.

Let me also say, I don't think QB is this obvious glaring need that so many people her to. I fully expect three more years of Romo. I would be more than happy getting a good back-up in free agency and drafting a kid in the middle rounds.

Tunsil is considered number one for a reason, cleanest player in the draft.

I would take him and not think twice if he fell.

 

[waving monkey]

I'm not sure why the lost love for Goff all of a sudden?
Goff played damn good and in the Bowl game he showed what he'll rise to the occasion.
His stock will rise after the combine. Sure i rather have Wentz.
I'm not sure the Brown wont take Goff anyway. His more ready then Wentz
and they need that way more then we do.

 

[Dodger12]

Let me also say, I don't think QB is this obvious glaring need that so many people her to. I fully expect three more years of Romo. I would be more than happy getting a good back-up in free agency and drafting a kid in the middle rounds.

I got that from your posts. We'll obviously disagree but let me add that we also spent a relatively high pick last year on a swing tackle that folks thought could replace Free. And Collins could move to RT as well and Leary can be resigned.

I just disagree on the need for a QB. I've seen what this season was like with FA back-ups and how fragile Romo can be. That's not a knock on Romo but I don't want to hold my breath every time he's sacked or lands wrong.

 

[texbumthelife]

I got that from your posts. We'll obviously disagree but let me add that we also spent a relatively high pick last year on a swing tackle that folks thought could replace Free. And Collins could move to RT as well and Leary can be resigned.

I just disagree on the need for a QB. I've seen what this season was like with FA back-ups and how fragile Romo can be. That's not a knock on Romo but I don't want to hold my breath every time he's sacked or lands wrong.

Romo hasn't missed more than one game, before 2015, since 2011. He's not suddenly injury prone just because he broke his collar bone and then rushed back before he was ready. I won't even call the second time he got hurt a re-injury, because he wasn't healed to begin with. He should have never been out there. Clearly where we differ is not just in the urgency of needing a QB, but on the evaluation of the top QB's this year. The fact that a guy with only a season and a half of FCS football is penciled in as the number two, if not number one, QB prospect, tells me all I need to know.

Even if they draft one of these kids, none of them are near ready to play so you would still need Moore or another free agent. So if Romo gets injured next year, you're likely going to see exactly the same thing from the team until the real issue (coaching) is fixed.

Tunsil is not Green. Green would still be our swing tackle of the future. Tunsil would be taking Free's starting job. Moving Collins simply creates yet another hole.

I respect yours and everyone else's opinion, we clearly feel very differently though.

 

[Beast_from_East]

If I am taking a LB in the top 5, he dam well better be Brain Urlacher 2.0

Is Myles Jack really that good?

 

[KB1122]

You end up in questions like, would you trade La'el Collins and a third to move up to No. 1 and take Wentz? Tough call.

 

[MikeT22]

Dane's mock sucks. That is all.

 

[KB1122]

I hope Carson Wentz tells Cleveland straight up that he is not interested in going there and to pass on him.

If I were him, I'd show up drunk to the interview.

 

[vicjagger]

I would rather trade back in this scenario and pick up Goff or Lynch. After our pick, there are no other qB hungry teams until 13 and the eagles pick.

49ers?

 

[texbumthelife]

I'm not sure why the lost love for Goff all of a sudden?
Goff played damn good and in the Bowl game he showed what he'll rise to the occasion.
His stock will rise after the combine. Sure i rather have Wentz.
I'm not sure the Brown wont take Goff anyway. His more ready then Wentz
and they need that way more then we do.

I don't get all these people saying the Browns need someone who can start now. They have another QB under contract for 2016 and could very easily sign another veteran. They're definitely not in win now mode. They could draft and stash Wentz just as easily as we could. They simply wouldn't be as good in the meantime as we would be.

 

[btcutter]

If I am taking a LB in the top 5, he dam well better be Brain Urlacher 2.0

Is Myles Jack really that good?

But no one knew Urlacher was going to be Urlacher nor Ray Lewis be Ray Lewis. It's the draft.

Honestly if we are not taking QB and Spence checks out. I would SERIOUSLY consider Spence over Bosa.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

49ers?

I think Chip will roll with Kap. He actually fits his O more than any QB he has had in the NFL. I guess any team could take a QB, I just don't think SF will, Not sure the eagles will either, depending on what they do with Bradford.