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Daniel Snyder Does Not Like Vanilla Ice Cream, So Says Mike Nolan
By Larry Brown | August 1, 2007

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I had been meaning to write this story for quite some time, but it wasn’t until this morning when I linked to a post about Daniel Snyder that I was reminded to share it. I’m finishing up John Feinstein’s book, Next Man Up, which is a behind the scenes account of the 2004 Baltimore Ravens. That season, Mike Nolan was the defensive coordinator with Baltimore, his last year with the team prior to accepting a head coaching position with the 49ers. Well, Nolan shared a story from his days with the Commanders. Apparently he and owner Daniel Snyder did not get along.
Early that season, after a Commanders loss, Snyder told Nolan that his defensive calls were “too vanilla.” Like the other coaches, Nolan had figured out by then that trying to explain football to Snyder was pointless, since he already had the game figured out. A few days later a gallon of 31 Flavors ice cream showed up on Nolan’s desk with a note that said, “This is what I like. Not vanilla.”

Nolan laughed and sent Snyder a note: “Thanks for the ice cream. My kids enjoyed it.”

“The first time it was actually kind of funny,” Nolan said. “I didn’t mind it at all.”

The next time wasn’t as funny.

The Commanders lost on the road to Dallas, and Nolan went into his office late Sunday night to start looking at game tape. When he arrived, there were three giant canisters of melting 31 Flavors ice cream on his desk with another note: “I wasn’t joking. I do not like vanilla.”
Feinstein had the story confirmed by other sources around the league. How great is that one? Leave it to Snyder to take a fun figure of speech and turn it into literal meaning. If anyone wants to find out why the Commanders suck so much, you don’t have to look any further than the top. Now, whenever the Niners and Commanders meet, you know whose side to wager on.​
 

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nolan was the worst D coordinator the skins had over at least the last 25 years. and that includes ron lynn.
 

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That is solid gold. SOLID gold.

Great find, TB. I'll be expecting leotis to weigh in on this.
 

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Yes, and an older wiser owner just yells at his DC during drills.
 

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By Larry Brown | August 1, 2007​


Posted in Category: Pro Pigskin


I had been meaning to write this story for quite some time, but it wasn’t until this morning when I linked to a post about Daniel Snyder that I was reminded to share it. I’m finishing up John Feinstein’s book, Next Man Up, which is a behind the scenes account of the 2004 Baltimore Ravens. That season, Mike Nolan was the defensive coordinator with Baltimore, his last year with the team prior to accepting a head coaching position with the 49ers. Well, Nolan shared a story from his days with the Commanders. Apparently he and owner Daniel Snyder did not get along.
Early that season, after a Commanders loss, Snyder told Nolan that his defensive calls were “too vanilla.” Like the other coaches, Nolan had figured out by then that trying to explain football to Snyder was pointless, since he already had the game figured out. A few days later a gallon of 31 Flavors ice cream showed up on Nolan’s desk with a note that said, “This is what I like. Not vanilla.”


Nolan laughed and sent Snyder a note: “Thanks for the ice cream. My kids enjoyed it.”


“The first time it was actually kind of funny,” Nolan said. “I didn’t mind it at all.”


The next time wasn’t as funny.


The Commanders lost on the road to Dallas, and Nolan went into his office late Sunday night to start looking at game tape. When he arrived, there were three giant canisters of melting 31 Flavors ice cream on his desk with another note: “I wasn’t joking. I do not like vanilla.”
Feinstein had the story confirmed by other sources around the league. How great is that one? Leave it to Snyder to take a fun figure of speech and turn it into literal meaning. If anyone wants to find out why the Commanders suck so much, you don’t have to look any further than the top. Now, whenever the Niners and Commanders meet, you know whose side to wager on.
The next time a Cowboy fan thinks that it's pathetic for Jerry Jones to be standing around on the sidelines during games, they should re-read this story to gain a better perspective of the word...
 

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riggo;1571673 said:
nolan was the worst D coordinator the skins had over at least the last 25 years. and that includes ron lynn.

Yeah, he was so bad that he is now a head coach in the NFL and building a team much better than the Skins.

Yep, he ruined his career.
 

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DallasEast;1571686 said:
The next time a Cowboy fan thinks that it's pathetic for Jerry Jones to be standing around on the sidelines during games, they should re-read this story to gain a better perspective of the word...


i wouldnt blame jones if he something like this. nolan sucked. if he didnt suck, snyder wouldnt have sent him vanilla ice cream. somehow nolan forgets that fact.
 

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Cajuncowboy;1571689 said:
Yeah, he was so bad that he is now a head coach in the NFL and building a team much better than the Skins.

Yep, he ruined his career.

you mean he did a good job with the skins?

btw- norv turner keeps getting chances too. doesnt mean he was a good HC.
 

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riggo;1571691 said:
you mean he did a good job with the skins?

btw- norv turner keeps getting chances too. doesnt mean he was a good HC.
No, he was/is a great coordinator, which is why he keeps getting chances.
 

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riggo;1571690 said:
i wouldnt blame jones if he something like this. nolan sucked. if he didnt suck, snyder wouldnt have sent him vanilla ice cream. somehow nolan forgets that fact.

My guess if that you polled 32 GM's throughout the leauge and asked them who knew more about defense, Nolan or Snyder....
 

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Jarv;1571694 said:
My guess if that you polled 32 GM's throughout the leauge and asked them who knew more about defense, Nolan or Snyder....

It would be 31-1. ;)
 

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riggo;1571690 said:
i wouldnt blame jones if he something like this.
Jones may be many things, but he is always man enough to tell you what he thinks to your face. Ice cream dialogue is Snyder's thang.

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nolan sucked.
So you say.

riggo;1571690 said:
if he didnt suck, snyder wouldnt have sent him vanilla ice cream. somehow nolan forgets that fact.
If Snyder doesn't understand the complexities of football, how would he know that "Nolan sucked?" :confused:
 

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riggo;1571691 said:
you mean he did a good job with the skins?

btw- norv turner keeps getting chances too. doesnt mean he was a good HC.

Well, what is the one constant in your scenarios?

Dan Snyder.

Not to be confrontational (I guess I was before but) I have a friend who is a typical Skins fan. He is a die hard, homer, they can do nothing wrong Skins fan. I have told him for years that as long as Snyder owns the team they will never win a Super Bowl. He argued with me and I told him he would have to wait and see.

I talked to him last week and he finally admitted that I may be right. (Something I knew all along).

The problem is that the Skins go after big name players past their prime and give them too much money for the antisipated production. Then when the team falls short, they blame the coaches. Even Gibbs is getting heat for not being able to get the job done. And The one constant in the whole mess is Danny.

Like I said, The Skins will never win a championship while Snyder owns them.

Here's to a long life of Skins ownership for Danny. :toast2:
 

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riggo;1571690 said:
i wouldnt blame jones if he something like this. nolan sucked. if he didnt suck, snyder wouldnt have sent him vanilla ice cream. somehow nolan forgets that fact.

Maybe the players on the skins just sucked and Nolan had no other choice... seems to have done alright everywhere else.
 

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Nolan's players were too slow from eating too much ice cream :)
 

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that's a pretty funny story. i think danny boy over did it the second time though
 

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Cowboy4ever;1571703 said:
Maybe the players on the skins just sucked and Nolan had no other choice... seems to have done alright everywhere else.

the skins added deion (he was not great, but not bad that year) bruce smith (same) and a forgettable mark carrier. ray rhodes took them from 29th in the league out of 31 teams to 4th.

like i said, nolan was not good in DC.
 

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trickblue;1571666 said:
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By Larry Brown | August 1, 2007​


Posted in Category: Pro Pigskin


I had been meaning to write this story for quite some time, but it wasn’t until this morning when I linked to a post about Daniel Snyder that I was reminded to share it. I’m finishing up John Feinstein’s book, Next Man Up, which is a behind the scenes account of the 2004 Baltimore Ravens. That season, Mike Nolan was the defensive coordinator with Baltimore, his last year with the team prior to accepting a head coaching position with the 49ers. Well, Nolan shared a story from his days with the Commanders. Apparently he and owner Daniel Snyder did not get along.
Early that season, after a Commanders loss, Snyder told Nolan that his defensive calls were “too vanilla.” Like the other coaches, Nolan had figured out by then that trying to explain football to Snyder was pointless, since he already had the game figured out. A few days later a gallon of 31 Flavors ice cream showed up on Nolan’s desk with a note that said, “This is what I like. Not vanilla.”


Nolan laughed and sent Snyder a note: “Thanks for the ice cream. My kids enjoyed it.”


“The first time it was actually kind of funny,” Nolan said. “I didn’t mind it at all.”


The next time wasn’t as funny.


The Commanders lost on the road to Dallas, and Nolan went into his office late Sunday night to start looking at game tape. When he arrived, there were three giant canisters of melting 31 Flavors ice cream on his desk with another note: “I wasn’t joking. I do not like vanilla.”
Feinstein had the story confirmed by other sources around the league. How great is that one? Leave it to Snyder to take a fun figure of speech and turn it into literal meaning. If anyone wants to find out why the Commanders suck so much, you don’t have to look any further than the top. Now, whenever the Niners and Commanders meet, you know whose side to wager on.
This is greatness. Flat out one of the best things ever posted on this forum. Suddenly I am a much bigger Mike Nolan fan.
 

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superpunk;1571677 said:
That is solid gold. SOLID gold.

Great find, TB. I'll be expecting leotis to weigh in on this.
We need to bookmark it in case Leotis doesn't see it.

Only his commentary could improve on this.
 
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