Darrell Russell or Corey Simon...

mperfection

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do we give either of them a look-see? Russell could be had for the vet minimum. Sign Simon to a 1-year deal and reevaluate after the season for long-term deal?
Next year is the final year of Glover's deal and Simon could easily supplant Leo Carson as a backup DT, with a view towards moving into a more prominent role next year or thereafter.
 

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um, no.

Neither are nose tackles, we run a 3-4, remember?
 

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Simon refused to sign a 1 year $5million offer with Philly, what makes you think he's coming here for a 1 year deal? And at that, for less than $5million
 

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Billy Bullocks said:
Simon refused to sign a 1 year $5million offer with Philly, what makes you think he's coming here for a 1 year deal? And at that, for less than $5million
Ever stop to think that, at such a late date, his options with "desirable" teams may not be at a premium?
 

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ever stop to think that the Dline is the least of our problems?
 

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mperfection said:
Ever stop to think that, at such a late date, his options with "desirable" teams may not be at a premium?

your logic is amazing. Philly put the offer out, he didnt sign it, they just released him. Obviously he doesnt want a 1 year deal. The guy will definately be signed by friday. Bank on it. And it will be more than just a 1 year deal.

Explain why we would need Simon as well..I'm interested to hear it. We're already working hard to get Fergy and Glover out there enough since they are both good. 3-4 relies on 1 DT, so where do we need 3 starting quality ones. If this is 1993 and we have the chance, I say, do it, but this is salary cap era...
 

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HardHittin'Witten said:
I bet BP doesn't even know that either one is available. That's how much he doesn't care.
Maybe he should at least care. Just like he probably should have cared that the same guy who returned a 102 yard kickoff against us last night for a TD was once a player for this same team and could have easily been had for a 1-year deal this past offseason (before he was grabbed by his current team for the same deal) at a position of need.

Can you honestly say that we have anyone on our team who is nearly as accomplished at returns as Reggie Swinton? I think not. Perhaps he could have replaced Copper as the 5th WR.
 

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Billy Bullocks said:
your logic is amazing. Philly put the offer out, he didnt sign it, they just released him. Obviously he doesnt want a 1 year deal. The guy will definately be signed by friday. Bank on it. And it will be more than just a 1 year deal.

Explain why we would need Simon as well..I'm interested to hear it. We're already working hard to get Fergy and Glover out there enough since they are both good. 3-4 relies on 1 DT, so where do we need 3 starting quality ones. If this is 1993 and we have the chance, I say, do it, but this is salary cap era...
Whoa Cowboy...don't burst a blood vessel over a simple post.
He didn't sign his 1-year deal because he supposedly wanted a long-term deal. The problem is, Einstein, that because of the CBA (that's "C-O-L-L-E-C-T-I-V-E B-A-R-G-A-I-N-I-N-G A-G-R-E-E-M-E-N-T", in case you were wondering) once a player is issued a 1-year deal, his team CANNOT enter into long-term contract negotiations until the player signs the 1-year deal. From the player's perspective, once he signs the tender offer he has no guarantee that his team will begin long-term negotiations and therefore he is bound to his contract. Evidently Simon felt snubbed that Filthy would even tender him a 1-year deal, based on his past performance, and that it should have offered him a long-term deal from the get-go. His refusal to sign the deal placed him at the mercy of the iggles because they still had the Franchise tag on him, which they could continue to use against him by simply not releasing him earlier in the offseason when the big bucks of free agency were still flowing freely. Apparently, the Eagles tried to work out a trade with the Ravens but the deal fell through because Simon and the Ravens could not agree on a LONG-TERM deal.

If Simon could not reach agreement on a long-term deal with one of the marqee defensive teams in the NFL, what makes him think he can easily reach another deal with a team of his choice? Which leads to my point - he may have to sign for cheaper money than he originally wanted. Which is ONE reason why I think the Cowboys may want to at least think about him.

A second reason the Cowboys may want to take a look-see at him is because Fergy's health is in question, Glover will be in the final year of his contract next year, which will make the DT position a position of need once again, and Leo Carson could easily be supplanted by Simon. We would have 3 solid DT's where we now only have 2. Heck, without Simon, the iggles are already 5 deep at DT. With Fergy's health in question, the only sure DT we have is Glover. At the beginning of training camp, DT was a position of strength. Now, apparently, it may be a position of weakness.

Thanks for the compliment on my "logic". ;)
 

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Russell has no chance with his drug history.

And Simon would be too expensive, and Ive heard he isn't the ideal team player.

Just because we're going to run the 3-4 doesn't mean we wouldnt want someone like him though. we're still going to run the 4-3 and a base 4 nickel. Having Ware, Simon, Glover, and Ellis would give us a better defensive line than Philadelphia ever enjoyed. Still it won't happen.
 

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Darrell, as long as he has been out of the league, is a risk, unless your name is Gruden. I wouldn't touch him myself.

My feeling about Simon is that he's a good tackle, but if Dan Snyder could even get a few dimes of cap space, he'll be all over this guy. The Chiefs, too, could be interested. I would be hesitant into getting into a bidding war with a fellow who refused $5 million/year.

David.
 

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I would love to have Simon in Dallas, but like dwmyers said, there will be alot of teams willing to ante up some big bucks for his services.....he is still a very good player.
 

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mperfection said:
do we give either of them a look-see? Russell could be had for the vet minimum. Sign Simon to a 1-year deal and reevaluate after the season for long-term deal?
Next year is the final year of Glover's deal and Simon could easily supplant Leo Carson as a backup DT, with a view towards moving into a more prominent role next year or thereafter.


I'd rather have rookie Thomas "Pepper" Johnson....we are already STACKED on the D-line and niether of those guys are extremely motivated.


Glover and Ferguson are extreme players.
 

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I never thought I would say it but our D-Line has enough depth. Remember if we sign a big contract that is taking money away from signing Witten
 

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P.S. My second viewing of the game TIVO shows an excellent late game performance from Leo Carson and genuine affection from BP after he played Fullback on the TT touchdown.

I think Carson stays as third tackle.
 
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