David Carr on what keeps us as an also-ran

khiladi

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So basically this video actually makes Dak the PRIMARY CULPRIT of the horrible plays and even where the Dak-Stan’s can point to a play call (2 which are arguable not even that bad), Carr still mentions Dak’s bad play.

So how does this absolve Dak? It actually makes him as bad as the Dak haters say or even possible worse at times..
 

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Wrote this to Sturm in another forum but Kellen's offense is build to counter any defense.
It is supposed to be balanced and have answers for Zone. Man and blitzes.
It is why Dak looks good in the huddle making adjustments.
it is basic counter based offense. you see the defensive look and counter it.

This can be really good but the issue comes in where you need to be balanced in talent too.
If the team is giving you the outside run and cant take advantage that becomes an issue.
If the team is giving up the deep fly but you dont have deep fly WRs that is an issue.

Forcing tight window throws to Noah Brown and Michael Gallup is an issue.
But so is forcing MANY tight window throws to CeeDee or Schultz.
Tams know what they give you and are preparing to slam that door closed at the snap.

Mike is more a take what I want guy. He will focus on what Dak does best and who his best players are.
He wants to get mismatches for his best guys and score big rather than a methodical pounding down the field.

Both these offenses are just fine.
But you do need talent and they will meet defenses who are equipped to stop them.

As I wrote Sturm, so much of the analysis is derived around losing to a really good SF defense.
Sometimes the guys on the other side of the ball are just better athletes, better players.
 

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Please define “also ran”. Not making the Championship game? Then all of the league is an also ran but four. 25 wins in two years? Disappointment not also ran. The lack of football knowledge on this board is Breathtaking and you guys think you could do something better. Get better at your job or take a pay cut and be consistent
So much this!!!
Fans have just stupid expectations.
Dallas was not a title favorite this year.
They didn't sell out to win it all as they were rather restructuring on the fly.

A tough regular season schedule but they still fared well and then won a road playoff game to retire Brady.
All this insane talk as is they were some 9-7 team that got lucky to make the playoffs or missed it altogether is just goofy.
They lost on the road to a 2 seed.
 

GimmeTheBall!

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How many OCs have to be fired before Dak jock sniffers like you will wake up?

At least one more I guess

Great guy
Talks well
Looks good in a suit
Average at QB

He’s the Jason Garrett of QBs
A hell of a good grill master and dominos player.
 

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This video supports everything I have said the past 2+ weeks and for the past 2+ seasons. People wonder why I'm still defending Dak? This video and breakdown by David Carr fully explains why. It's not all on Dak. Dak has had no chance for quite some time playing under Kellen Moore as his O-Coordinator and this ownership's personnel and coaching decisions. What a joke.

This is why the O-Coordinator, Oline coach, QBs coach and RBs coach are no longer here. Exactly why they were all fired recently. I wonder why the WRs coach has not been fired yet? What a total mess this Offense has been from the ground up, especially with player personnel and especially play designs/concepts. Absolutely gave your QB no help whatsoever.

I'll wait for the apologies for being attacked the past 2+ weeks for defending Dak and stating over and over It's not all on Dak, but I know I won't get them. Hope people better understand now what the issue has been. Lots of problems with this Offense.
I'm 9 minutes in and I only watched because of your post. So far everything he has said is on Dak. I'll keep going.
 

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Dak had plenty of blame, but that offense design is brutal. Four curls at the sticks is why Moore is gone. It's been the same for years. Linehan had the same problem. It will never work unless you have the best running game in the NFL.
 

America's Cowboy

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Career loser? Carr? Very bad summation. Carr was a quality QB who got majorly screwed by Houston.
It's ironic how David Carr is saying Dak looked late or needed to get the ball out quicker, etc, yet he failed from the same exact things.
 

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It's ironic how David Carr is saying Dak looked late or needed to get the ball out quicker, etc, yet he failed from the same exact things.
You are incorrect. He failed at the Texans putting an OLine in front of him, that is all he failed at.
 

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How many OCs have to be fired before Dak jock sniffers like you will wake up?

At least one more I guess

Great guy
Talks well
Looks good in a suit
Average at QB

He’s the Jason Garrett of QBs
Dak hasn’t had any OC’s fired. They got rid of Lenny right after arguably his best year. Since then he’s had Moore. Moores offense sucks and I’m glad it’s history. As Carr pointed out, the scheme sucks. I’m just glad they finally realized it
 

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The only thing keeping Prescott on the team is his contract. He will have two years more at the helm. In 2025 Dallas will go in another direction.
I’m a huge Dak fan, but I won’t disagree with this. If these coaches and players can’t get it done in the next couple years, I’d blow it all up, not just the QB.
 

America's Cowboy

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You are incorrect. He failed at the Texans putting an OLine in front of him, that is all he failed at.
No, you are incorrect. For a #1 overall draft pick, David Carr never had a winning season throughout all of his career, had more INTs than TDs and never was able to make his teammates better.

David Carr Among 8 Most Overrated Houston Texans in Franchise History

No. 2: David Carr, QB
David Carr was the first overall pick of the 2002 NFL draft. He was also the first pick in the history of the franchise, excluding the expansion draft.

Carr was expected to be the franchise quarterback, the guy who would lead the Texans offense for many years.

However, due to an extremely ineffective offensive line and Carr's own shortcomings as QB in the NFL, he was never successful. He never lead the Texans to a winning record, although this cannot be solely blamed on him, and he threw more interceptions (65) than touchdowns (59) as a starting quarterback for the Texans.

Carr was supposed to be the guy who would lead the expansion Texans to a bright future, but instead, he was the guy that gave them a dark, dark past.

https://syndication.bleacherreport....-houston-texans-in-franchise-history.amp.html

David Carr was ranked by NFL.com as #38 out of the 52 No. 1 Draft Picks in the common NFL era. That's pretty bad.

https://www.nfl.com/photos/ranking-all-52-no-1-picks-of-the-nfl-s-common-draft-era-0ap3000000797366

David Carr was also picked among the worst draft picks in Texans history.

https://www.nfl.com/news/houston-texans-best-and-worst-draft-picks-0ap1000000162231

David Carr's career record was 22 - 53, albeit not helped with a better Oline and better talent around him, but he was let go by the Texans after his 5th year. David Carr spent the rest of his career as a backup QB for 4 other teams. Horrible for a #1 overall draft pick.
 

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It's ironic how David Carr is saying Dak looked late or needed to get the ball out quicker, etc, yet he failed from the same exact things.
I guess you finally got around to the part of the video (more or less all of it) that doesn't support everything you've said the past 2+ weeks and 2+ seasons.
 

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I guess you finally got around to the part of the video (more or less all of it) that doesn't support everything you've said the past 2+ weeks and 2+ seasons.
I agree with most of what David Carr said, but I find it ironic he's strange how he critics Dak when David Carr himself had the same problems when he played. I guess being a #1 overall pick draft bust for so long helped him acknowledge his own faults?
 

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Again, next play in the run calls out Dak for not being able to see, after running the same play for 6 yards, but this time the 49er defense had the proper defense which Carr says they should have recognize at the line. The problem is, Dak is again under center and he even saw the play as “he knew there was trouble” per Carr’s words, so it never even should have been snapped.

The next play he says that they are just running vertical routes, but then admits he could have thrown it to Zeke in the flat. The fact is they weren’t really running a 7 man blocking scheme with the backs as Zeke actually leaks pretty early.

Dak basically is keying on the left side, and his pocket presence is horrible as he starts drifting right into the pressure on the RIGHT SIDE and basically runs into his lineman then has to try and bail. If he stood tall or took 1 step up, he would have seen Zeke or he could have actually broke pocket to run left in all that open space instead of running into the back of the defender. Zeke also actually has at least 15 yards easy down the sideline.

Again, not sure how Dakazoids think this film absolves Dak in any way.

Then he laughs at Dak’s almost safety for not throwing the ball. And we can add that to another 2 points, besides the dropped pick 6 that Dak should have given to the 49ers, but in the stats it adds to his rushing “stats”.
Hi khiladi!!!........maybe Carr needs an interview as OC.
 

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We scored 40 on Philly. I assume you think they are lesser. 40 on Vikings. Lesser. Lots on Giants. Lesser I guess. 28 on Packers. Bad defense I guess. Over 30 on Tampa in the playoffs. Lesser I guess in your mind. 49ers is the only good team we were not effective except the first game
Context is important. It was a nothing game to Philly and they had a backup at QB. The Vikings were smashed in several games. Tampa were there for the taking. A banged up o-line, banged up receivers and a 400 year old QB lacking in mobility to counteract the lack of time to throw from the pocket. Anyone that watched Arizona outplay Tampa with a guy off the street at QB a few weeks earlier could see what was on the cards in this game.

The game that matters was against the 49ers. Defense showed up but the offense led by #4 fell flat on their face in a big way - again.

How many points did Philly put on the same 49ers defense a week later? You would think Hurts played a blinder yet he didn't even need to get out of first gear. Context matters. I.e., Dak sucks when it actually matters.
 
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