David Irving Instagram post

[Philmonroe]

Seriously? Do we need to "talk to everybody that works for the Cowboys" to know that this isn't anything that will help David Irving with the team? Do you not have the sense to know this for yourself?

I know a guy who works in the organization, should I reach out to him for verification that Irving didn't help himself?

No of course not. I was just saying you didn't so you shouldn't use that as part of your explanation that's all. I don't know how it will hurt Irving with the team. Guess I don't have the sense if having sense means agreeing with you on this issue. Now that we've established I don't have sense according to you what does it mean if in every measurable way my lack of sense hasn't stop me from doing exactly what most people wish their lives could be?

I know Dak and I could ask him but it don't prove nothing whether he agrees with me or you because like I told you before you can always find one person that agrees with just about anything. Go ask your guy doesn't change my view on this.

 

[Philmonroe]

Haha...I know you are buddy and whether we agree or not I appreciate the fact you’re always respectful about it. I got some people coming over in awhile and it’s about beer:30 so I’ll let ya have this one

Have a great weekend friend!

Awesome have fun with your people and have a great weekend yourself my man.

 

[Stash]

No of course not. I was just saying you didn't so you shouldn't use that as part of your explanation that's all. I don't know how it will hurt Irving with the team. Guess I don't have the sense if having sense means agreeing with you on this issue. Now that we've established I don't have sense according to you what does it mean if in every measurable way my lack of sense hasn't stop me from doing exactly what most people wish their lives could be?

I know Dak and I could ask him but it don't prove nothing whether he agrees with me or you because like I told you before you can always find one person that agrees with just about anything. Go ask your guy doesn't change my view on this.

Keep your view. We're all entitled to an opinion.

The fact is that Irving's past decisions cost him millions in draft position. An undeniable fact.

And his current actions are mentioned as the reason why he'd get a 2nd round tender rather than a 1st. Another difference of $1 million. But if you want to blind yourself to these facts, again, have "your view".

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

I'll go out on a limb and say it's all a joke. He probably gets a kick out of ruffling everyone's feathers.

 

[Philmonroe]

SPeak for yourself about objectifying women. Im just saying, there are a lot of womens groups out there that will take offense or already have taken offense to yet another NFL player being an idiot.

Nah I'm going to speak for you and everybody else too. You can lie if you want to but you don't pick the person you are with based on nothing but personality. Where are these imaginary women's groups at for this one? I didn't hear nothing about the stuff until I came on here and if this was some big story sports wise I would've heard about it by now. You have a way bigger nba player making valentines jokes about a bell that had a certain job written on it but this is going to be a bigger story? Ok.

 

[Philmonroe]

Keep your view. We're all entitled to an opinion.

The fact is that Irving's past decisions cost him millions in draft position. An undeniable fact.

And his current actions are mentioned as the reason why he'd get a 2nd round tender rather than a 1st. Another difference of $1 million. But if you want to blind yourself to these facts, again, have "your view".

The fact is we aren't talking about his past decisions from college. We are talking about this one right here so don't include undeniable facts from things that weren't in the original discussion just to aid your point.

Show me where it says his IG post is why he'd get a 2nd rd tender than a 1st. I'm not blind you just like making up stuff with no proof and when you get called out have nothing to say but excuses.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's not a moral question moron.

Then what is it when the only thing you are bringing up is the moral aspect of it? As if the Cowboys care about morality......

Enlighten everyone to "far worse". I know Gronkowski hasn't already cost himself millions in the draft like Irving has, let's go from there.

If you have to ask then I just don't know what to say.........

 

[Philmonroe]

Yes lashing out at his fans is impacting him, who pays his bills? Jerry, who pays Jerrys bills. The fans. Am I missing something?

No its not because people "lash" out at fans all the time and nothing has happened yet. Most fans aren't even on ig or twitter to "speak" to him for him to lash out in the first place. Can't believe you're taking this small sample size and trying to make that the majority of fans. Again most people don't know this is going on and as long as he gets sacks don't care either. Fool yourself if you so choose

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

For a rich athlete it is a lifestyle that is is conducive to accusations of abuse or wrongdoing which may be real or created for a financial gain. Either way you are gambling and if you lose you get suspended or worse.

I checked it out myself out of curiousity. It's still up and has not been removed.

Oddly enough he is now getting in an instagram war with people telling him is s bad idea/they don't like it. I don't think he cares about any possible down side to him personally which tells you a lot about his personality/thought process.

What downside? He had a 3some. He isn't the first and definitely won't be the last.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

A valentine gift is usually bought and paid for. So is he saying his wife bought and paid for this woman as a gift? Human trafficking is a huge problem right now, and most women in prostitution are right in the middle of it. Yes I know, this is a stretch, but it's on purpose because this is the type of things people say and think. . This is the type of judgment that shouldn't be shown right now when youre in a contract Moment.

Human trafficking? Haha. I don't think you know what that term means.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Show me the post where I said or insinuated that if he got suspended it wouldn't hurt the team. As far as the other stupid questions that follow lets just keep it to stuff I actually posted not some made up in your head junk. As far as these groups they don't really care about people like Irving. They care about big names not people only football fans know about.

I agree with the people that say y'all are jealous and or people that get kicks by showing how much more moral you are than the next person. I'm sure they think y'all are being just as lazy to talk about some picture that hasn't made any national waves and doubt it will as this big distraction. It goes both ways. Yep we don't agree and of course its cool.

Here is what you said:

I think people like you are fibbing under the guise of winning because winning has jack to do with who people are sleeping with straight, gay, one person or more. That's my point and if you disagree that's cool we won't agree on everything.

Now, I have continually said, throughout this thread, that it's not about who he is sleeping with or whatever. If you missed that, that's your failure and that's your fault. What I, and many other, have issue with, is that fact that this does no good. It's stupid to do this on it's surface. If you can't see why it could end up hurting the team, then I am telling you that it's been spelled out for you. Nobody knows what might come of this but certainly, nobody in their right mind is going to say that Irving posting this was in the interests of the team. Find one poster who is willing to support that idea.

You were better off just leaving it at cool, we won't agree.

 

[Pants]

DOPE (Irving)

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

He could, but there's a difference in benching a player who is accused of domestic abuse and one who brags about having sex with two women with his wife's consent. What is he "protecting the image of the NFL" from? Is he saying having sex with two women is inappropriate? Is he saying an NFL player on his own social media platform talking about having sex with two women is inappropriate?

I agree with what's being said about Goodell being able to do what he wants under the guise of conduct detrimental to the league, but he is driven in that regard by public opinion. If there's no public outcry about what Irving did, which isn't illegal, then why would he want to possibly incur a backlash?

I don't see it, but of course, many things that Goodell does don't make sense to me.

Even Goodie Goodell does not have the hubris to go after consensual 3 somes

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He could, but there's a difference in benching a player who is accused of domestic abuse and one who brags about having sex with two women with his wife's consent. What is he "protecting the image of the NFL" from? Is he saying having sex with two women is inappropriate? Is he saying an NFL player on his own social media platform talking about having sex with two women is inappropriate?

I agree with what's being said about Goodell being able to do what he wants under the guise of conduct detrimental to the league, but he is driven in that regard by public opinion. If there's no public outcry about what Irving did, which isn't illegal, then why would he want to possibly incur a backlash?

I don't see it, but of course, many things that Goodell does don't make sense to me.

Of course there is. I don't believe that anybody in this thread is suggesting that those things are equivalent. However, it doesn't change the fact that this was dumb. It is my observation that the NFL tends to sway with the winds of public opinion. You think that it's an accident that the NFL puts on league sponsored parties for the players and, somehow, doesn't know what or how players act? Of course not, they know exactly how it is. Do you think that the NFL was unaware of a great many things specific to players and owners actions? Of course they do. However, it never seems to be a major deal until public opinion weighs in.

Now, there in, lies the rub. You can't know what that's going to be, from week to week. If it's a slow news day, guess what, writers write pieces about former Cowboys or current Cowboys behaving in ways that will generate discord. That's how public opinion happens. That's how a stupid move like what Irving did, becomes a big deal. That's how a season gets derailed before it ever starts.

You gotta be smarter then that.

 

[Stash]

The fact is we aren't talking about his past decisions from college. We are talking about this one right here so don't include undeniable facts from things that weren't in the original discussion just to aid your point.

Show me where it says his IG post is why he'd get a 2nd rd tender than a 1st. I'm not blind you just like making up stuff with no proof and when you get called out have nothing to say but excuses.

It's a history of bad decisions. This is simply the most recent. But you know that.

 

[coult44]

It can be whatever y'all want it to be don't mean it have to agree just like y'all don't have to agree with me. Who dude is or isn't sleeping with doesn't help or hurt the effort to win as long as its legal are you kidding me?

People are looking at it like y'all are judgmental or jealous because this is a case of that being so. Of course y'all are going to disagree but that's how I see it. I can see more with Zeke because his stuff was actually costing games but this right now nah.

Believe it or not who said everybody did want to have relations with two women? Again what does who someone loves have to do with winning? If someone like Gronk did the same thing what would the excuse be then? I think people like you are fibbing under the guise of winning because winning has jack to do with who people are sleeping with straight, gay, one person or more. That's my point and if you disagree that's cool we won't agree on everything.

How do you know it was legal? Perhaps his wife bought him some high priced prostitute that she didn't know was part of a huge human trafficking ring. We don't know. She could just as well be their best friend swinging partner. Again, we don't know. But this brings me back to my original point. Bad judgement. Put it anyway you want, how many of these type distractions have helped this crappy franchise for the past 1/4 century remain crappy? Tooooo many. He's not good enough to be worth it.

 

[dagreat1_87]

I don't see the big deal about this. Some of you are reacting as if he posted a sextape of him and Charlotte Jones getting it on

 

[Stash]

Then what is it when the only thing you are bringing up is the moral aspect of it? As if the Cowboys care about morality......

No, I'm sure immorality is a positive for them...

If you have to ask then I just don't know what to say.........

If you think that's worse, then it's me who doesn't know what to say.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The fact is we aren't talking about his past decisions from college. We are talking about this one right here so don't include undeniable facts from things that weren't in the original discussion just to aid your point.

Show me where it says his IG post is why he'd get a 2nd rd tender than a 1st. I'm not blind you just like making up stuff with no proof and when you get called out have nothing to say but excuses.

Why is that? There is no rule about bringing up his past. That's crazy to me.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't see the big deal about this. Some of you are reacting as if he posted a sextape of him and Charlotte Jones getting it on

It's the Off Season. This is how it is in the Off Season..........