CFZ Day 2 Thoughts about Diggs season ending injury

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I was concerned in camp that this team needed to add more depth at the cornerback position as we were 1 injury away from last year happening all over again. Sure enough, Diggs goes down after 2 weeks into the season. Now we have to rely on our 3 starters, one being 33 years old for the rest of the season. Huge step back after these three, as we have the likes of Noah Igbin who was a 1st rd bust, along with the likes of Nashon Wright/Eric Scott. Muku is more of a hybrid. Perfect world, they trade for a veteran corner, but that will be difficult, perhaps they trade for a corner who is on his last year of his contract from a team that looks to rebuilding. Here are some names to consider:

-CJ Henderson Carolina-with Horn down for multiple weeks, they won't be trading another top corner.
-Saq Griffen Houston-many remember him as the former Seahawk corner.
-Marcus Peters Las Vegas
-K. Fulton Tenn-he has a better chance of being resigned then traded.

Corners are like offensive lineman, you never have enough and teams throughout the league lack quality depth.

As for Diggs, since he had this injury so early, there is a chance he could be ready at the start of next year's camp. Keeping Gilmore beyond this year makes some sense, but it is time to draft another future starting corner.
 

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This team will not many any moves

Gilmore, bland and Lewis are your 3.

Goodwin moves to the 53. Noah and Scott are not active along with Thomas and Muk.

Wright will be back in two weeks if they stink. I still wish they’d bring in Casey Heyward who is 33 but drafted by McCarthy. Let him be on the PS for a few weeks.
 

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I think trading for a CB is going to have to be closer to the trade deadline when teams are out of the hunt. As you mentioned there is simply not enough depth around the league at the position.

I think being patient is the right approach too. It's not like the CB group goes to total garbage after the loss of Diggs, I actually think the bigger piece to the puzzle is how the aggressive DQ keeps the defense. This team played a lot of man coverage on the outside the first two weeks letting Diggs/Gilmore basically shut down their guys and that let your safeties focus more on the middle of the field. Now with bland on one side and Gilmore on the other you probably see a lot more cover 2/3 and when in man Hooker is going to have to stay deep. Not that that is a bad thing, it actually plays to the strength of Hooker, the issue is the Cowboys secondary becomes more predictable as you stop leaving both outside CBs on an island.
 

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This team will not many any moves

Gilmore, bland and Lewis are your 3.

Goodwin moves to the 53. Noah and Scott are not active along with Thomas and Muk.

Wright will be back in two weeks if they stink. I still wish they’d bring in Casey Heyward who is 33 but drafted by McCarthy. Let him be on the PS for a few weeks.
Plus they have that dude I can't pronounce his name from Miami that we traded for KJ,,, I agree they won't bring anybody right now but I believe they'll be looking just in case because if we lose another starter then we gotta start being concerned..
 

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I was concerned in camp that this team needed to add more depth at the cornerback position as we were 1 injury away from last year happening all over again. Sure enough, Diggs goes down after 2 weeks into the season. Now we have to rely on our 3 starters, one being 33 years old for the rest of the season. Huge step back after these three, as we have the likes of Noah Igbin who was a 1st rd bust, along with the likes of Nashon Wright/Eric Scott. Muku is more of a hybrid. Perfect world, they trade for a veteran corner, but that will be difficult, perhaps they trade for a corner who is on his last year of his contract from a team that looks to rebuilding. Here are some names to consider:

-CJ Henderson Carolina-with Horn down for multiple weeks, they won't be trading another top corner.
-Saq Griffen Houston-many remember him as the former Seahawk corner.
-Marcus Peters Las Vegas
-K. Fulton Tenn-he has a better chance of being resigned then traded.

Corners are like offensive lineman, you never have enough and teams throughout the league lack quality depth.

As for Diggs, since he had this injury so early, there is a chance he could be ready at the start of next year's camp. Keeping Gilmore beyond this year makes some sense, but it is time to draft another future starting corner.
You are panicking way to much. Not one of the corners you suggested are any good. The Cowboys lost an All Pro cornerback, no replacement to be found unless Bland steps up to play better then he already has. Injuries happen. The Cowboys secondary is deep as any in the league. Lots of matchup pieces especially with the 5 safeties we have.
 

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I think trading for a CB is going to have to be closer to the trade deadline when teams are out of the hunt. As you mentioned there is simply not enough depth around the league at the position.

I think being patient is the right approach too. It's not like the CB group goes to total garbage after the loss of Diggs, I actually think the bigger piece to the puzzle is how the aggressive DQ keeps the defense. This team played a lot of man coverage on the outside the first two weeks letting Diggs/Gilmore basically shut down their guys and that let your safeties focus more on the middle of the field. Now with bland on one side and Gilmore on the other you probably see a lot more cover 2/3 and when in man Hooker is going to have to stay deep. Not that that is a bad thing, it actually plays to the strength of Hooker, the issue is the Cowboys secondary becomes more predictable as you stop leaving both outside CBs on an island.

Yup, or you have to overpay if you want one now. Seeing how this FO has operated, I think they will give the young/green guys a chance before getting serious on making a trade
 

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They need a man to man corner who can run.

I don’t know who that is but that’s what they need.

Marcus Peters has always been a head Case but the guy is a good football player.
 

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Plus they have that dude I can't pronounce his name from Miami that we traded for KJ,,, I agree they won't bring anybody right now but I believe they'll be looking just in case because if we lose another starter then we gotta start being concerned..
We will miss diggs, but we won’t miss him to the point of will lose games. Just might not get the turnovers.
 

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We will miss diggs, but we won’t miss him to the point of will lose games. Just might not get the turnovers.
As much as I agree with your statement don't underestimate the pass rush.. By the way Diggs was not the same person last year with the turnovers... I mean what do you have two interceptions last year? Also don't underestimate the fact that bland is pretty much a very similar player now I don't know how he's gonna be on the outside but we also have Gilmore and Lewis and that pass rush and we're getting Donovan Wilson back, keep the pressure on, TOs will come... I think Dan Quinn will know how to do that,
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I mean that is part of it we protect that back end with the pass rush but yet we still have really good players back there this isn't last year where we lose Lewis and brown and then cover him up with dudes who are worse than Lewis and brown which was really going off the deep end for talent... That is not the same situation this time..
 

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I was concerned in camp that this team needed to add more depth at the cornerback position as we were 1 injury away from last year happening all over again. Sure enough, Diggs goes down after 2 weeks into the season. Now we have to rely on our 3 starters, one being 33 years old for the rest of the season. Huge step back after these three, as we have the likes of Noah Igbin who was a 1st rd bust, along with the likes of Nashon Wright/Eric Scott. Muku is more of a hybrid. Perfect world, they trade for a veteran corner, but that will be difficult, perhaps they trade for a corner who is on his last year of his contract from a team that looks to rebuilding. Here are some names to consider:

-CJ Henderson Carolina-with Horn down for multiple weeks, they won't be trading another top corner.
-Saq Griffen Houston-many remember him as the former Seahawk corner.
-Marcus Peters Las Vegas
-K. Fulton Tenn-he has a better chance of being resigned then traded.

Corners are like offensive lineman, you never have enough and teams throughout the league lack quality depth.

As for Diggs, since he had this injury so early, there is a chance he could be ready at the start of next year's camp. Keeping Gilmore beyond this year makes some sense, but it is time to draft another future starting corner.
Good post.

Too early. Even 0-2 teams still think they have a shot.
- Hopefully by the time the picture is clear on good/bad teams, DaRon Bland will have proven himself at outside CB and J. Lewis will have shown that he is still a good Nickel CB.

Shaquill Griffin is likely the type of CB they might get for a 5th. He is 28 and on the final year of his contract.

Marcus Peters is in the same situation. He is 30 and on the last year of his contract.
- The Raiders are tied for 1st in their division at 1-1.
- Will McClay does seem to trade with the Raiders morer than any other team...
 

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As much as I agree with your statement don't underestimate the pass rush.. By the way Diggs was not the same person last year with the turnovers... I mean what do you have two interceptions last year? Also don't underestimate the fact that bland is pretty much a very similar player now I don't know how he's gonna be on the outside but we also have Gilmore and Lewis and that pass rush and we're getting Donovan Wilson back, keep the pressure on, TOs will come... I think Dan Quinn will know how to do that,
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I mean that is part of it we protect that back end with the pass rush but yet we still have really good players back there this isn't last year where we lose Lewis and brown and then cover him up with dudes who are worse than Lewis and brown which was really going off the deep end for talent... That is not the same situation this time..
Looks like he was doing ok this year. He already had 2 int's in (1 against the gnats and one against the Jets). He will be missed. Our DL is wreaking some havoc in the opponents backfield which I am sure his aiding in the secondary getting turnovers.
 

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I think trading for a CB is going to have to be closer to the trade deadline when teams are out of the hunt. As you mentioned there is simply not enough depth around the league at the position.

I think being patient is the right approach too. It's not like the CB group goes to total garbage after the loss of Diggs, I actually think the bigger piece to the puzzle is how the aggressive DQ keeps the defense. This team played a lot of man coverage on the outside the first two weeks letting Diggs/Gilmore basically shut down their guys and that let your safeties focus more on the middle of the field. Now with bland on one side and Gilmore on the other you probably see a lot more cover 2/3 and when in man Hooker is going to have to stay deep. Not that that is a bad thing, it actually plays to the strength of Hooker, the issue is the Cowboys secondary becomes more predictable as you stop leaving both outside CBs on an island.
I agree, probably cannot be as aggressive.
 

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The Marcus Peters suggestion is actually not that bad. He was Diggs before Diggs. LOL. All or nothing on the turnovers.

But he’s a blocker for Bland. So would only get him if Jordan‘s injury is still causing performances issues.

Because if Jordan is healthy, by all accounts, he’s one of the dawgs and a leader in the locker room.

So Peters and these other guys are really just if you don’t trust #4-#5 on the depth, or more injuries occur.
 

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Looks like he was doing ok this year. He already had 2 int's in (1 against the gnats and one against the Jets). He will be missed. Our DL is wreaking some havoc in the opponents backfield which I am sure his aiding in the secondary getting turnovers.
he only has the one from the jets game, but his hit caused one in the giants game
 

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Looks like he was doing ok this year. He already had 2 int's in (1 against the gnats and one against the Jets). He will be missed. Our DL is wreaking some havoc in the opponents backfield which I am sure his aiding in the secondary getting turnovers.
I realize that but I think maybe you're missing the point a lot of those were because they were forced throws by bad quarterbacks they bounced up in the air most of them he didn't really jump the route and just really take something that .... pass rush is creating a lot of havoc.. I'm not trying to diminish the loss I'm just saying it wasn't like he had the 11 interceptions like the year before...
 
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