Day one ready to start OLBs

[tm1119]

guys. It is real simple. We MUST have another pass rusher that can balance Ware. Spencer is clearly not that guy. Nor is anyone else on the team now. So we have to get one. Either a DE or a OLB. There does not appear to be a 3-4 DE coming out that is another Seymour, which is very rare anyway. So we have to get a OLB that will do better then Spencer at rushing the passer from the OLB. IT is BS that we need to have a guy there that does more coverage; the Steelers do not; the Pats in their best days did not; so a coverage or play the run well guy is NOT all important.

The #1 way to beat a team in todays NFL that passes all over the place is PRESSURE. SACKS.

Have fun getting torches with quick passes and draws/screens. Our corners suck as it is and Lee is our only LB that can cover. If u want to throw another pure edge pass rusher like Ware on the other side its going to make our team worse. It amazes me that people are basing Spencers play purely on his # of sacks. Im not saying he's great but I don't see a better replacement in FA or the draft. There may be equals, but that is just pointless waste of the #14 pick. This team has bigger issues at OG and CB(once Newman gets cut) than Shotgun Spencer.

 

[dallasfaniac]

LaMarr Woodley was drafted 2nd round the same year as Spencer. They both play the same position and while Woodley has played in 6 fewer games, he has more than doubled the number of sacks as Spencer 48 to 21 and has more interceptions and passes defensed as well. I don't care if Spencer stops the run better, our offense puts us in the lead and forces the other teams to pass to get back in the game. Having said that, none of the OLB do anything for me that early in the draft.

 

[jnday]

There are few positions that you'd draft a player in the 2nd round knowing they'd be a starter so I fail to see your point. There are a bunch of players drafted in later rounds that could have started if they had been handed over the reins, it's just rarely done. When people say that they are letting Spencer walk, it doesn't have to mean that they are then drafting in the 2nd/3rd round for a starting position, it could mean that they are promoting Butler and drafting his backup who could potentially take over the starting position down the road. For the record, I'm not thrilled with any of the OLB in the early rounds of the draft and would probably take a chance on Vontaze making the transition to OLB before I would draft any of them.

I agree with this post . I would draft someone like Curry in the second and let him share snaps with Butler until he is ready to start in a year or two .

 

[Doomsday101]

If he ask for too much , let him walk . My point is that you don't burn the 14th pick to replace him if the value isn't there .

I agree. I don't reach for players in the draft. Having said that I do disagree that about the players who likely will fall around the 14th spot such as Ingram or Upshaw.

 

[jnday]

I agree. I don't reach for players in the draft. Having said that I do disagree that about the players who likely will fall around the 14th spot such as Ingram or Upshaw.

Do you think either of these players would be enough of an improvement to use the 14th pick on them ? I don't , but I have been wrong before . I guess the question that I really want answered is what do these players offer that would improve the position ?

 

[Doomsday101]

Do you think either of these players would be enough of an improvement to use the 14th pick on them ? I don't , but I have been wrong before . I guess the question that I really want answered is what do these players offer that would improve the position ?

I can't say any of these guys who will get drafted are sure things. I know both guys are very tough physical players and leaders. They are disaplined in their play and smart in being able to read and react.

Can I say for sure no but then I don't think there any sure things.

 

[visionary]

i would be OK re-signing spencer as long as we do a couple of things:

1) get a true NT
2) get a 3-4 DE that can pressure the QB not just stop the run

i think these 2 are do-able in FA and draft this year

if we just re-sign spencer and upgrade secondary but dont upgrade the front 7, we are in for a long season

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Whether we resign Spencer or not, we need to draft a OLB. IMO it needs to be a high pick as well. Player stock is gonna rise and fall tremendously after the combine, but right now i'm riding the Curry train baby. If we could land him in the second I would be thrilled.

 

[burmafrd]

Have fun getting torches with quick passes and draws/screens. Our corners suck as it is and Lee is our only LB that can cover. If u want to throw another pure edge pass rusher like Ware on the other side its going to make our team worse. It amazes me that people are basing Spencers play purely on his # of sacks. Im not saying he's great but I don't see a better replacement in FA or the draft. There may be equals, but that is just pointless waste of the #14 pick. This team has bigger issues at OG and CB(once Newman gets cut) than Shotgun Spencer.

there is a reason he is called ALMOST ANTHONY

 

[RoyTheHammer]

there is a reason he is called ALMOST ANTHONY

Who calls him that?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Looks like Dont'a Hightower didn't declare yet, so he may stay in school this year.

 

[jnday]

Whether we resign Spencer or not, we need to draft a OLB. IMO it needs to be a high pick as well. Player stock is gonna rise and fall tremendously after the combine, but right now i'm riding the Curry train baby. If we could land him in the second I would be thrilled.

As things stand now , I would like Curry in the second . 2 or 3 years from now , he could prove to be the best pass rusher in this class .

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Just watched the championship game.. i think Dont'a made a good decision staying in school another year. Didn't impress me that much in that game.

I think if Upshaw is there at 14, you have to strongly consider him. It'll be a tough decision for sure what we do with our first round pick, depending on if we resign Spencer. If we can't get Spencer back for a reasonable price though, i'd say Upshaw could step right in and be a force for us. He looked explosive in the game. Reminded me of Cameron Heyward last year, another guy i really wanted in the draft. Two guys who just dominate and have relentless motors. These are the type of guys we need to be drafting. Guys who never stop.

 

[NeonNinja]

Just watched the championship game.. i think Dont'a made a good decision staying in school another year. Didn't impress me that much in that game.

I think if Upshaw is there at 14, you have to strongly consider him. It'll be a tough decision for sure what we do with our first round pick, depending on if we resign Spencer. If we can't get Spencer back for a reasonable price though, i'd say Upshaw could step right in and be a force for us. He looked explosive in the game. Reminded me of Cameron Heyward last year, another guy i really wanted in the draft. Two guys who just dominate and have relentless motors. These are the type of guys we need to be drafting. Guys who never stop.

I thought I heard he declared to go pro after Kirk and Trent did?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I thought I heard he declared to go pro after Kirk and Trent did?

Not that i've heard?

If so, i hope we get somebody from that D, whether it be at 14, later in the first or in the second round.

 

[BAT]

OK but he wasn't a day one starter. Thats one player that you said he could have been, but the truth is that he wasn't.

Unrealistic argument. This is the NFL not many rooks are day one starters, regardless of position.

That said Clay Matthews, Ryan Kerrigan and Von Miller are recent SOLB who started their rookie seasons.