DC.COM: Blog: Newman Still Listed As Limited

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JohnnyMac;2251231 said:
#1 - he's not a Great player - very good - yes : Great? NO. He does not change games - he doesn't pick enough balls off. Deion was great, Lester Hayes, Mel Renfro, Darell Green etc

#2 - no matter how much you like him, he's undeniable soft.


1. Newman is the closest thing to a shut down corner that the league has now, if you can't see that is GREAT you got something wrong with you. FYI a guy not getting his side thrown to more than a few times changes the game whether you know it or not.

2. facts completely dismiss your OPINION as false.
 

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JohnnyMac;2251231 said:
#1 - he's not a Great player - very good - yes : Great? NO. He does not change games - he doesn't pick enough balls off. Deion was great, Lester Hayes, Mel Renfro, Darell Green etc

#2 - no matter how much you like him, he's undeniable soft.
#1-Deion and Green type players are very rare. It's ridiculous to say about all our CB's that "there no Deion." We shouldn't expect them to be. Newman is one of the Top 5 CB's in the league and is worth every penny.He changes the game because defenses have to plan with him in mind. ANd I can think of two key INTs. The first Commander game and the Bills game. 2 wins = Game changing.

#2- How can you say he's udeniably soft?!?!?!? Being slightly injury prone doesn't mean he's soft. He's only missed about 4 games in his career. Your argument is ridiculous.
 

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stealth;2251246 said:
1. Newman is the closest thing to a shut down corner that the league has now, if you can't see that is GREAT you got something wrong with you. FYI a guy not getting his side thrown to more than a few times changes the game whether you know it or not.

2. facts completely dismiss your OPINION as false.

how much has he shut down Plaxico?
 

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JohnnyMac;2251231 said:
#1 - he's not a Great player - very good - yes : Great? NO. He does not change games - he doesn't pick enough balls off. Deion was great, Lester Hayes, Mel Renfro, Darell Green etc

#2 - no matter how much you like him, he's undeniable soft.


Deion Sanders
1995 Dallas Cowboys 2int
1996 Dallas Cowboys 2int
1997 Dallas Cowboys 2int
1998 Dallas Cowboys 5int
1999 Dallas Cowboys 3int
5yr career with Cowboys total 14int

Terence Newman
2003 Dallas Cowboys 4int
2004 Dallas Cowboys 4int
2005 Dallas Cowboys 3int
2006 Dallas Cowboys 1int
2007 Dallas Cowboys 4int
5yr career with Cowboys total 16int


*Try looking up how many games Deion missed due to injury.
 

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JohnnyMac;2251260 said:
how much has he shut down Plaxico?


I don't have stats and I am not researching to argue with you, but assuming that plax always owns newman its utterly stupid to point to one player our of how ever many as proof that newman isn't great. And since you don't seem to know, we don't really move our corners around to cover specific people. We do put newman in the slot at times but I don't consider that specifically asking him to cover one guy all the time.

And just to pound my point into the ground, there is not a single reciever in the league that would consistanly beat newman 3 times out of 10 in a one on one situation. You grossly underestimate the calibre of player Newman is.
 
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I hope Newman can play Monday because the Eagles throw the ball more than any other team in the NFL basically.
 

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JohnnyMac;2251231 said:
#1 - he's not a Great player - very good - yes : Great? NO. He does not change games - he doesn't pick enough balls off. Deion was great, Lester Hayes, Mel Renfro, Darell Green etc

#2 - no matter how much you like him, he's undeniable soft.


Did he change the game when he picked off Jason Campbell last year?

Did he change the game when he picked off Edwards last year?

Did he ice the game on Thanksgiving last year?

Terence Newman is the best slot defender in the NFL, and I dare you to name one who is better. Newman gave up two TDs in two years (2005-2006), and he didn't give up one last year. So, that is two TDs in three years. In 2005 and 2007, he diidn't give up one TD. In 2006, he gave up 2. He helps win games by preventing throws and big plays, and in Phillips' defense last year, the big play opportunites started to come a little more for him. It isn't like he doesn't get some interceptions. Plus, Newman isn't targeted very often. He doesn't get the opportunites that some other players get.

Who has checked Steve Smith all over the field and shut him down, not once, but twice during this decade. It isn't all about interceptions. Anthony Henry was thrown at over 100 times in 2006. That led the NFL. Why do they target him so much? Henry is a good player.

Who has done it?

Newman can beat you and excells in zone, man, press man, off man... It doesn't matter.

Ask Plaxico Burress about his 1 catch for 5 yards in the second Giants game last year and compare that game with his first game against Dallas. Albert Breer wrote about Newman's stellar play against Burress that day (Plus, I saw it with my own eyes.) and about him playing a key role in shutting him down. Ask Dallas Clark about his 1 for 5 yards when the Colts played in Dallas. Clark lived in the slot. I saw him torch Champ Bailey last year out of the slot when Denver tried to match Bailey up with him.

When you play a lot of man coverage, like Newman did under Parcells, your back is to the quarterback. Playing with your back to the QB, can limit pick opportunities. Wade Phillips has talked about this fact.

The numbers and his play on the field say you are wrong.
 

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stealth;2251216 said:
I have seen you post more than once that newman was soft and made of glass, that isn't a "tad" injury prone. He has played hurt a ton, you just don't rememeber that, fixate on the few games he has missed and pretend to have a valid point.

I am not flaming you, I don't think you are a troll, and I kinda like you, but dude you haven't been at all rational about T.New.

ok I wont say he is soft,but like u said he has played hurt a ton.You must admit he is hurt a lot.
 

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That dude from the raiders,not Hall but the african named dude,lol,is lockdown just as much as Newman.Teams dont throw at that dude much either.
 

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Just in case you might have missed it most NFL players are dinged up most seasons. And they still play. Just about everyone plays hurt at one time or another.
 

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juckie;2251430 said:
That dude from the raiders,not Hall but the african named dude,lol,is lockdown just as much as Newman.Teams dont throw at that dude much either.

Okay do go on I fail to see what this has to do with any point you are trying to make however I would love to see you try to bring this full circle.
 

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speedkilz88;2251274 said:
Deion Sanders
1995 Dallas Cowboys 2int
1996 Dallas Cowboys 2int
1997 Dallas Cowboys 2int
1998 Dallas Cowboys 5int
1999 Dallas Cowboys 3int
5yr career with Cowboys total 14int

Terence Newman
2003 Dallas Cowboys 4int
2004 Dallas Cowboys 4int
2005 Dallas Cowboys 3int
2006 Dallas Cowboys 1int
2007 Dallas Cowboys 4int
5yr career with Cowboys total 16int


*Try looking up how many games Deion missed due to injury.

Thank you for saving me the work. Seriously. Anyone that thinks Newman is overrated is, well, not very bright. Or a troll. Or both.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2251517 said:
Okay do go on I fail to see what this has to do with any point you are trying to make however I would love to see you try to bring this full circle.

you fail to see a lot more than just his point
 
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