DC.COM Blog; Phillips: Vrabel TD Was A Blown Assignment...Ware's fault?

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So the Dallas media has turned to the Gestapo now. Querying insiders to find out who's at fault on plays after the facts.

Well, maybe Wade's habit of not attributing culpability is the impetus for this
 

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dwarecwby311;3012959 said:
absolutely not

In that situation Ware has to cover or stand up Vrabel at the line.If you allow Vrabel a free release it's like taking candy from a baby,which is what happened.As far as having Ware pin his ears back and rush on that particular play,well all I can say to that is that you better strap a jet pack to his butt in order for him to get to the quarterback.Everthing happens real quick at the goal line and it's extremely hard to sack a quarterback with the ball coming out so quick.

Craig
 

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Isn't there some rule about ineligible receivers having to leave the field for at least one play after they've reported as eligible receivers?

If that rule is still there, it was also a mistake by the refs.
 

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zeroburrito;3012984 said:
do you take the time to type out your name after every post or is there some setting?


Just a habit I picked up somewhere along the way.So yes I type it in to answer your question.

Craig
 

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theogt;3012942 said:
Surprise, linebackers have to cover tight ends.

Are you new to football?

I agree with dwarecwby311 on this one.

Of course linebackers have to cover tight ends sometimes. But that's usually when they're lined up as linebackers, not as down linemen.

Look at the play. We had a five-man line, with the two safeties on the outside edges, three linebackers in the box and one cornerback following the tight end in motion.

The five eligible receivers are the two down tight ends, the tight end in motion and the two backs. You've got six guys in the defensive backfield -- three linebackers, two safeties and a cornerback. That's more than enough to have one assigned to each eligible receiver. And if you "know" Vrabel is going to get the ball, you might even have enough to double-team him. But you're going to assign one of the defensive ends to cover the tight end in the flat? (And he's your best pass-rusher?) WHY? Who are the safeties there to cover? Why not have Ware jam Vrabel, then have Watkins or Brooking cover him?

And if, for whatever reason, you're going to have your defensive end responsible for covering the tight end in the right flat (from the defense's perspective), why in the world would you shift your entire defensive line to the left and have your DE play inside the tight end, giving him an easier release to the outside? And least play him head-up, if not on his outside shoulder.
 

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hairic;3012983 said:
Isn't there some rule about ineligible receivers having to leave the field for at least one play after they've reported as eligible receivers?

If that rule is still there, it was also a mistake by the refs.
I don't know about that, but the first play Vrabel was in there the ref did announce he was eligible.
 

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theogt;3012942 said:
Surprise, linebackers have to cover tight ends.

Are you new to football?

Surprise! The Safety should have been covering the TE. But instead they want to assign Ware to him who is the best pass rusher in the game.

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And we saw Watkins do nada on the play even though he has a 329 foot wing span.

Ware has a hand down. Why give him the job of taking on Vrabel and then determing if he's staying in the block or going out on a route?

Just let the man go blow up the backfield and let Watkins cover 10 yards of ground against a LB playing TE.

This is where Wade is an idiot in my opinion.
 

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newnationcb;3012968 said:
So the Dallas media has turned to the Gestapo now. Querying insiders to find out who's at fault on plays after the facts.

Well, maybe Wade's habit of not attributing culpability is the impetus for this

Uh...

It's their job to be information finder outers.

:lmao:
 

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AdamJT13;3013008 said:
I agree with dwarecwby311 on this one.

Of course linebackers have to cover tight ends sometimes. But that's usually when they're lined up as linebackers, not as down linemen.

Look at the play. We had a five-man line, with the two safeties on the outside edges, three linebackers in the box and one cornerback following the tight end in motion.

The five eligible receivers are the two down tight ends, the tight end in motion and the two backs. You've got six guys in the defensive backfield -- three linebackers, two safeties and a cornerback. That's more than enough to have one assigned to each eligible receiver. And if you "know" Vrabel is going to get the ball, you might even have enough to double-team him. But you're going to assign one of the defensive ends to cover the tight end in the flat? (And he's your best pass-rusher?) WHY? Who are the safeties there to cover? Why not have Ware jam Vrabel, then have Watkins or Brooking cover him?

And if, for whatever reason, you're going to have your defensive end responsible for covering the tight end in the right flat (from the defense's perspective), why in the world would you shift your entire defensive line to the left and have your DE play inside the tight end, giving him an easier release to the outside? And least play him head-up, if not on his outside shoulder.

A first.

We agree 150% on this one.
 

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zeroburrito;3012984 said:
do you take the time to type out your name after every post or is there some setting?

craig71;3012989 said:
Just a habit I picked up somewhere along the way.So yes I type it in to answer your question.

Craig

AdamJT13;3013009 said:

craig71;3013019 said:
I don't think so,but i'm starting to wonder when I started doing it though.

Craig


:lmao2: :lmao:

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I dunno. Don't really see where Wade is the idiot for the design of the play.

If it were a run, Ware could easily hold his ground against Vrabel. Since it was a pass, my guess is Ware was supposed to stand Vrabel up and not let him go anywhere or ride him down the line at the very least.

Anyone actually think Watkins could do either? He gives almost 50 LBs. Might as well have asked Calista Flockhart to give it a shot.
 

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I'm really beginning to wonder if Ware has some lingering effects from his concussion earlier.

cowboyjoe;3012365 said:
"We worked on the exact play, but we should've worked on it more, obviously."

I have been saying that the past 2 years, that wade isnt spending enough time in practice on plays;

he didnt do it last year with special teams
now on defense

he didnt do it enough with blitz defense on runs in training camp, then he had to fix the run defense after the tampa bay game, then he had to work on the pass defense after the giant game

when is wade going to get into his thick head just talking about it and lightly covering it with the players is enough? YOU have to drill in players heads over and over on plays.

even dave wandastedt a very good defensive coordinator said, you have to run plays over and over at least 70 times for just one play for players to get down

its about time this defensive coordinator guru wade understands that

you cant treat these players like professionals, you have to work them;
over and over and over

NO MORE EXCUSES WADE, DO YOUR JOB!
 

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Players are making too many mistakes...

The practiced this play and then go out and fail to execute it...

Its on the players.....they have to be accountable to know their keys...

Million dollar players have to be accountable for someting....limit your mistakes...make plays....know you role.....study film...etc.....

Ware supposely messed up....we have to limit those mistakes...
 

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It was Bobby Carpenter, because he shouldn't even be in the game.
 

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Funxva;3013199 said:
I'm really beginning to wonder if Ware has some lingering effects from his concussion earlier.

I'm starting to wonder why he was let back into the game. He was knocked out. When your body goes limp, you have no business going back in with a concussion.
 
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