DC: Mailbag: Need For Upgrade At WR? Ignoring Positions Of Depth?

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Mailbag: Need For Upgrade At WR? Ignoring Positions Of Depth?
Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:13 AM CST

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FRED LONDON
MORRISTOWN, NJ
Although, Terrance Williams had a career game in the final week of the season, it doesn't appear that it has had any effect on the perceived need to upgrade the position. Is it more a question of Williams' consistency rather than his ability in light of the fact that his potential has been highly touted since he came to the team?

Bryan: I am going to take the approach that Williams’ game against the Commanders will be one of those moments where we look back and say that was a turning point for him. His routes were outstanding, he worked hard every snap and he attacked the football. I thought he did a much better job of handling the situation with Dez Bryant being out than he did earlier in the season. As much as I would like to see this club add Laquon Treadwell, Michael Thomas or Will Fuller I am willing to bet that we see a different Terrance Williams next season.

David: I think it’s absolutely fair to point toward consistency – go look at his game logs. Only a few times in his career hasTerrance Williams put together two or three good games in a row. He has also completely disappeared for long stretches in each of the past two seasons. Obviously he’s got the excuse of bad quarterback play this past year. But for me, the bottom line is that he’s been a good player – but not so good that he can’t be upgraded.


BRIAN CERENTANO
LINCOLN, IL
I might be asking the obvious but, I'll ask anyway. Does the policy of drafting the best player available come with an unspoken caveat of 'unless we don't need him'? There's too much talent in the first three, maybe four, rounds (and too many needs) to be adding players that would only be adding depth (e.g. OL).

Bryan: My old boss in Green Bay, Ron Wolf use to say if you think you are set at a position go ahead and add another player to the group. You owe it to yourself to set your board up in a way to take the best player in every round. Where you get in trouble is if you window dress your board. As you draft there are two things you are trying to accomplish – get the best player and eliminate your mistakes. When you start to jump players on your board even one time – you are setting yourself up for failures down the road. Put players where you are comfortable taking them regardless of the position.

David: I think in some extreme circumstances, you might see that strategy come into play – but not for the most part. Injuries define the way this league plays out – as Cowboys fans are no doubt aware after 2015. Depth shouldn’t stop you from addressing a position if you truly think that’s your best play. If a guy as talented as Laremy Tunsil falls to Dallas at No. 4, they’d have to be crazy not to consider him – even if he does play a position of strength.

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I would add to the position but would not look to the 1st rd. not with Dez and the contract he pulled off
 

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I'm going to use a combination of distant mind meld and Jedi mind tricks to convince the Cowboys to acquire Alshon. I've never attempted this before at around 5000 miles but it's worth a shot. Long as I don't get a terminal nose bleed.
 

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I'm going to use a combination of distant mind meld and Jedi mind tricks to convince the Cowboys to acquire Alshon. I've never attempted this before at around 5000 miles but it's worth a shot. Long as I don't get a terminal nose bleed.

I'm definitely on board for bringing in a veteran. Someone to push Williams and depth
 

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I would add to the position but would not look to the 1st rd. not with Dez and the contract he pulled off

If Treadwill was the best player available, I would select him. He would be an upgrade at the position and by the time he would approach his next contract; Dez should be winding down on his current deal. Think how difficult it would be to defend them. Talk about spreading out a defence! Williams is the last year of his contract. I'm also assuming Jerry will be Jerry and sign Johnny Boy.
 

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I'm going to use a combination of distant mind meld and Jedi mind tricks to convince the Cowboys to acquire Alshon. I've never attempted this before at around 5000 miles but it's worth a shot. Long as I don't get a terminal nose bleed.

Oh, just take one for the team. ;)
 

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On the topic of adding a WR, what do you guys think about Dolphins' WR Rishard Matthews? He's a free agent unlikely to be back there given their recent investments, and he's coming off of a very good year. He looks like a player just hitting his stride. He's on my wish list as a possible addition.
 

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On the topic of adding a WR, what do you guys think about Dolphins' WR Rishard Matthews? He's a free agent unlikely to be back there given their recent investments, and he's coming off of a very good year. He looks like a player just hitting his stride. He's on my wish list as a possible addition.

I'd rather have Street although I think Matthews is a tad better now. I like Streets's size. Neither one make me warm and fuzzy.
 

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I'm going to use a combination of distant mind meld and Jedi mind tricks to convince the Cowboys to acquire Alshon. I've never attempted this before at around 5000 miles but it's worth a shot. Long as I don't get a terminal nose bleed.

Alshon may well make more money than Dez.

That's really a no go.

What people miss is that you need 3 or 4 WRs. You can draft a guy at 4 (better at 7 to 10 after a trade down) and play him as the #2 but realize he has #1 upside. If Dez doesn't return to health you can release him in a year otr two and you have a #1 on campus with experience. WR is not punter where you use 1. It's not even QB where back ups seldom get snaps. A good #2 here would the #1 on as much as 25% of the offensive plays anyways. You don't ask guys to run 40 yards, line up and do that 5 more times. Especially not 230 pound WRs.

WR is hardly the only place I look but it is arguably our worst skill position and the one where a top talent would make the biggest difference after QB.
If Romo is healthy next year and Dez are healthy next year and you do sign Lamar Miller... give me Treadwell PLEASE. That offense behind this OL... what a difference from Weeden/Cassell to TWill/Street.
 

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Alshon may well make more money than Dez.

That's really a no go.
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What people miss is that you need 3 or 4 WRs. You can draft a guy at 4 (better at 7 to 10 after a trade down) and play him as the #2 but realize he has #1 upside. If Dez doesn't return to health you can release him in a year otr two and you have a #1 on campus with experience. WR is not punter where you use 1. It's not even QB where back ups seldom get snaps. A good #2 here would the #1 on as much as 25% of the offensive plays anyways. You don't ask guys to run 40 yards, line up and do that 5 more times. Especially not 230 pound WRs.

WR is hardly the only place I look but it is arguably our worst skill position and the one where a top talent would make the biggest difference after QB.
If Romo is healthy next year and Dez are healthy next year and you do sign Lamar Miller... give me Treadwell PLEASE. That offense behind this OL... what a difference from Weeden/Cassell to TWill/Street.

I agree. You always want as much talent as possible. I just love big receivers. I know how hard they are to cover. While I would have no problem with a WR in the 2nd or 3rd I'd not be happy with a first right now. I see a vet FA as being a great place to pick up some useful talent at WR without waiting a year or two.

Williams will be a better player next year.

I don't like having tunnel vision on positions at the draft but I've alwyas espoused the BPA at a position of need. Right now I'd put S, CB, 3, 5, edge rusher and LB ahead of WR. I'd personally put T above it.
 

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I agree. You always want as much talent as possible. I just love big receivers. I know how hard they are to cover. While I would have no problem with a WR in the 2nd or 3rd I'd not be happy with a first right now. I see a vet FA as being a great place to pick up some useful talent at WR without waiting a year or two.

Williams will be a better player next year.

I don't like having tunnel vision on positions at the draft but I've alwyas espoused the BPA at a position of need. Right now I'd put S, CB, 3, 5, edge rusher and LB ahead of WR. I'd personally put T above it.

I don't know if Williams can get better. If you remember, he promised that he was going to be a much better player this last preseason. It really didn't happen.
 

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I'm definitely on board for bringing in a veteran. Someone to push Williams and depth

Twil had his opportunity to show he could be a #1 WR....it didn't work out...the position needs upgraded, either in the draft or FA.....Getting a Treadwell or Fuller in the 1st Rnd and a big power back in the second or 3rd and this offense could be lights out.....
 

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We need someone with speed at WR. A real deep threat. Not crazy about spending a high pick at WR but not sure we can get that from a vet. Loved what we saw from Butler and think he will be solid for us. Dez, TWill, Butler and Beas is solid but Street can be replaced.
 

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The GM is garbage at drafting skill positions. He's terrible at evaluating the current talent level at those skill positions as well. TE, WR, SS, FS, CB, RB, QB.

Romo was a god send, he said it himself. Worst GM in sports hands down.
 

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I was pointing to WR BEFORE the season saying after Dez we are a dumpster fire. I got plenty wrong but that was 100% accurate.
Beasley is a mediocre slot but he is easily the best of what we have after Dez. Once Dez was injured we were one of the worst WR corps in football which is why we were so very, very bad.
TWill may well get better but you are going to have to pay that kid. Right now you can't trust him to catch the football or get open unless you give him a 5-7 step drop route.

Compared to other spots....
CB -- arguably even. Have a legit 1 in OScan for sure. After that it's what the other starters cost you to keep versus what you can draft. CB is a legit need.
Rush End -- No team has too many good pass rushers but Dallas has DLaw and Gregory queued up and already developing. They also have Hardy in the building if they want to keep him. If they feel a pass rusher is worth 4, I will definitely not complain. But I am not sure I love any of the rush ends this year. I'm actually a bigger fan of the bigger DTs that we won't draft because of scheme.
LB --The need is just not as great as WR. We have Sean Lee, Hitchens, drafted Wilson last year. Could resign Ro and or Wilber. LB is a very useful position but I am not using a top 5 pick there. Not when these guys are one good tackle away from a 2 or 3 week concusion protocol rest. I'd look rounds 3 and 4 at LB every year. We go through them quickly.
Tackle: That's an absolute non-starter for me. Free will be back one last season and we have Chaz Green to battle for the spot. You could also consider Martin or Collins out there at some point. This team CAN NOT spend 5-7m on a RT the next 5 years. Not as those other guys come up for free agent deals. Dallas has to have a draftee on that OL. Because Martin is going to break OG pay and Fredbeard is going to get top OC pay. We will easily have the highest paid OL in football WITH a cheap rookie RT.

All in all I'd put QB/DE/DT/CB/S/WR on my list at 4. Knowing what's out there DT drops off unless we really trade down and Pass rush become show do you feel about Bosa. Is he too much a DLaw clone and SDE guy?
QB is my preference but I only truly love one guy, Goff. My 2nd fave, Wentz, has played lower level and played sparingly. And I'm not sure he can handle an NFL seaosn as he can't stay healthy in lower level football. But his upside is insane. I'd truly love thta kid to make our pick at R2. After that Jalen Ramsay to me is a cocky, tough CB we could use. But man I just think Mo might be better next year or even the next two years. Hargreaves is gonna be good but not sure he's worth 4. Not a ball hawk type. A lot like Mo as a turn and run with you guy. Can be out-sized. So it just kinda makes it easy to tlak mysel finto Treadwell. I think he is heinously underrated and will rise mightily as we hit the combine. People are judging him on Freshman film and on coming off serious injury. His work late this year has been truly special.
 
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