de tyrone crawford

[silverbear]

So that's 54 with them, 65 with the Cowboys scouting department, 73 or thereabouts with Mayock. So we did well.

And I think Wes Bunting had him at 85... so his average draft rating was a hair over 69... we picked him at 81...

Nope, value is not an issue with this pick... production and fit are...

 

[TheCount]

I like the prospect, just not sure how he'll fit on a D that needs guys now.

 

[theogt]

I like the prospect, just not sure how he'll fit on a D that needs guys now.

You're saying we "need" a 3-4 DE right now? This was a luxury pick in my opinion. We don't need a pass rushing 3-4 DE. Not now. But you have to think about it this way -- in this guy's prime, we won't have Ware, or at least not the guy we know today.

 

[jjktkk]

I like the prospect, just not sure how he'll fit on a D that needs guys now.

The D-line needs depth. Crawford provides it. I see Lissemore and to a lesser degree, Brent, being impact players on the D-line, with Lissemore competing for a starting job. So I'm alittle confused with your comment here.

 

[Afigueroa22]

What were you expecting for a 3rd rounder? A pro bowler in his rookie year?

Murray could have been had he stayed healthy and started day 1.

 

[TheCount]

You're saying we "need" a 3-4 DE right now? This was a luxury pick in my opinion. We don't need a pass rushing 3-4 DE. Not now. But you have to think about it this way -- in this guy's prime, we won't have Ware, or at least not the guy we know today.

Ugh, that's like telling me my puppy is gonna die someday.

The D-line needs depth. Crawford provides it. I see Lissemore and to a lesser degree, Brent, being impact players on the D-line, with Lissemore competing for a starting job. So I'm alittle confused with your comment here.

We've actually got some depth but we took a step back when we lost Bowen for sure. What I really mean though is that I was hoping for an every down, can't take him off the field, DE. Crawford seems more like a project guy, and we already bring our DE's along slowly.

If we already had that every down DE, I'd be doing cartwheels with this pick. As it is, I'm happy, but feeling greedy. I wish he was ready to start now.

 

[Woods]

We can put Crawford in our 4 man fronts, nickel defense, and rotate him a bit in our base defense as well pretty quickly I'd imagine.

 

[Woods]

His combine numbers are very similar to Fletcher Cox:

Cox:
Height: 6-4 Wieght:295
40 yd dash: 4.79
10 yd split: 1.63
Bench: 30 reps
vertical: 26
Broad jump: 8-7
Arm length: 34 1/2

Crawford:
Height: 6-4 Weight: 280
40 yd dash: 4.81
10 yd split: 1.62
Bench: 28 reps
vertical: 33
broad jump: 9-5
Arm length: 33 3/4

When you watch his highlights, you can tell Crawford is athletic as well. He moves really well for a guy his size, imo.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Great pick.

Happy to see the Cowboys going away from the plodding 300lb at DE who has no burst.

This guy may actually threaten an offensive tackle a little with his pass rush ability.

I think the guy could see a lot of snaps in passing situations this coming season.

Add another 10lbs, build up his strength a little more, get use to the Cowboy defense and he could be a starter in 2013.

 

[Bluestang]

Great pick.

Happy to see the Cowboys going away from the plodding 300lb at DE who has no burst.

This guy may actually threaten an offensive tackle a little with his pass rush ability.

I think the guy could see a lot of snaps in passing situations this coming season.

Add another 10lbs, build up his strength a little more, get use to the Cowboy defense and he could be a starter in 2013.

More importantly we can run more base 4-3 and help the rush or coverage depending on the play call.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

His combine numbers are very similar to Fletcher Cox:

Cox:
Height: 6-4 Wieght:295
40 yd dash: 4.79
10 yd split: 1.63
Bench: 30 reps
vertical: 26
Broad jump: 8-7
Arm length: 34 1/2

Crawford:
Height: 6-4 Weight: 280
40 yd dash: 4.81
10 yd split: 1.62
Bench: 28 reps
vertical: 33
broad jump: 9-5
Arm length: 33 3/4

Actually, their weights at the combine were 298 and 275, respectively, so these numbers should take into account that Cox is 20 pounds heavier and also Crawford ran a 4.89 there.

I do believe alot here overrated Cox, he could turn out to be a good player with all those players around him on the line in Philly, but Cox and Crawford do have similar production numbers though. Cox also has problems anchoring against the run, which is supposed to be less of a problem with Crawford although he is at a lighter weight.

Cox is more ready right now, but in 2 years I would like to revisit it although Cox will have more opportunities playing as a 3 tech than Crawford will have as a 5 tech.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

More importantly we can run more base 4-3 and help the rush or coverage depending on the play call.

True.

The kid can be a 4-3 DE.

 

[JBell]

I knew he had a reputation for being a great athlete, but I didn't know he was running a 7.09 3 cone at 280 lbs. Man, that's impressive.

Dude's 3 cone drill is almost as good Claiborne's.

The potential is there. All reports point to Crawford having a strong work ethic and being a good kid, so that eliminates a little bit of the risk involved. If he fails, it won't be because he didn't work hard enough.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

He will get 30-40 snaps right off the bat and knock someone, preferably Coleman, off the roster.

 

[Risen Star]

All I know is that he was not in Kiper's top 10 available

He is 71st overall on Kiper's board. He thinks a lot of Crawford.

McShay likes him too. Said he wouldn't have a problem with a team using a late 2nd on him.

 

[Risen Star]

He's 80th overall on Scouts Inc.'s board.

When you read the reviews after the draft, I doubt anyone is going to knock this pick.

 

[Bluestang]

He's 80th overall on Scouts Inc.'s board.

When you read the reviews after the draft, I doubt anyone is going to knock this pick.

The Cowboys said he was the top rated 3rd rounder on their board. Much like Butler he should get pass rush snaps on a steady rotation.

 

[Woods]

Great pick.

Happy to see the Cowboys going away from the plodding 300lb at DE who has no burst.

This guy may actually threaten an offensive tackle a little with his pass rush ability.

I think the guy could see a lot of snaps in passing situations this coming season.

Add another 10lbs, build up his strength a little more, get use to the Cowboy defense and he could be a starter in 2013.

I like the Crawford pick better than drafting Brockers from a pass rushing perspective.

 

[Woods]

Here is Crawford's measureables. For reference, I included the data from some 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE types that had slower agility times than the 5-tech Crawford.

That's a very good cone time.

Nice vertical and 10 yard split as well.

 

[SMCowboy]

We heard the same on Hatcher and we are still waiting....

While Jason Hatcher hasn't played to his upside yet. If you look at all the players drafted after Hatchers, till the Cowboys picked again in the 4th round, only 14 players are still in the NFL, and of those 14, only 8 of them are regular starters.
Stephen Tulloch
Stephen Gostkowski
Brandon Marshall
Domata Peko
Barry Cofield
Owen Daniels
Jahri Evans
Eric Smith

While Hatcher has not turned out to be a great pick, he certainly has not been near as bad of a pick as many want to pretend that he has been.