'Deadly Conduct' warrrant issued for Deon Anderson

[CowboyMcCoy]

A round was chambered???



Sorry, but he has to go now. No way in hell I keep him on the team now, he pointed a loaded gun at somebody and that is just inexcusable. He could have freaking killed the guy!!!!!.

See, he did not point a gun at anyone. But you couldn't wait until the facts surfaced. My oh my, this has been fun.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

On a related note: Does anyone else find it a tad bit odd that a "Deadly Conduct" charge is only a misdemeanor?

 

[Hoofbite]

See, he did not point a gun at anyone. But you couldn't wait until the facts surfaced. My oh my, this has been fun.

You distinguish that much between retrieving a loaded gun and pointing it at someone?

He still went to his car to get the gun.

Unless of course its all a frame job by the valet. I'm sure he was just licking his chops for a late round draft pick to come rolling in so he could milk that cash cow. Why wait for a real celebrity with a ton of money?

 

[CF74]

On a related note: Does anyone else find it a tad bit odd that a "Deadly Conduct" charge is only a misdemeanor?

Well he only implied to use the gun but he didn't actually point it at the guy.

Picture this:

Cricket: Hey fool whatcha doing to my ride???
Valet Guy: *Giggles nervously*
Cricket: *Reaches into car and slides his piece under his belt to intimidate valet wisenheimer*
Valet Guy: *Runs like a ***** and calls the 5-0*

 

[zrinkill]

That Dallas Cowboy over there pulled a gun on me.

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[Bob Sacamano]

Deon Anderson 4 Life!!

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

That Dallas Cowboy over there pulled a gun on me.

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[CowboyMcCoy]

You distinguish that much between retrieving a loaded gun and pointing it at someone?

He still went to his car to get the gun.

Unless of course its all a frame job by the valet. I'm sure he was just licking his chops for a late round draft pick to come rolling in so he could milk that cash cow. Why wait for a real celebrity with a ton of money?

Well, now that it's been cleared up that he didn't point it at anyone and the he was sober, we're still condemning him for wrong doing based of a valets statements to the police.... The valet is entitled to feel or perceive things as he wants, and he's entitled to make statements to the police. The question is was his perception reality? And was his statement warranted?

As V-twin said, what if he took it out to make sure the valet didn't steal it? What if he took it out to secure it b/c his car was going to be left over night? What if he took it out bc he called a tow truck and wanted to be safe?

You're still not getting this, are you?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

What kind of crap question is this? I never said that. Even though many pro athletes have committed crimes, it doesn't mean this one has just yet.

That's my point exactly. You are trying to live on a double standard here. Deon couldn't possibly have done it but that cop he's dirty cause others are.

You're attempting to use what other cops have done to lable this particular cop but then wanting to act like there is no way that Anderson could possibly have done anything wrong. Which hopefully he didn't.


But you're too trigger happy to just wait for all the facts to come in.

No, again, I'm not. I just didn't immediately decide, right of the bat, that there was no shot this was true simply based off the fact that Deon is a Cowboy and all cops and valets are dirty people. That's the assumption you made.


Maybe not all cops, but you seem to be putting a lot of faith in this one.

I am putting no faith, at all, in anyone in this. I have no stake in this. I have nothing to lose from whatever shakes out of this. I just don't believe in deciding, right from the start, that all cops are corrupt just because there are cops who are corrupt.

There are plenty of people who are drug dealers in this world so should I just assume you or Hos or everyone else on these forums are drug dealers simply because there are drug dealers in the world?

Just a silly way to look at each individual person.


For a moment, I thought you were the guy posting as Beast from the East. My mistake. That's a fact. Even I make mistakes.


No harm no foul. It happens.


It's not an assumption, rhetoric aside. Rather, I'm just painting the picture of reasonable doubt that this cop and/or valet could be dirty.

What if they were Eagles fans? That would have to count for something, right?

I guess it could to some. I wouldn't assume that all Eagles fans are out to be pieces of crap. In fact I've got a few Eagles fans who I know for fact wouldn't fit that bill at all.


The picture in my mind says that's because most of them aren't, imo. I'm not saying this holds true for all cops, but rather the majority. I would venture to say most who have been around long enough have lied in a court of law to protect themselves from a bad arrest or lied in and arrest report simply because of something they didn't like. Cops make these sorts of assumptions all the time. Ever heard of DWB? Meaning: Driving while black.

And you of course have proof, some actual factual evidence to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that most cops are dishonest. Right? I mean you're not just throwing out another assumption based off of your own person bias toward police, right? You actually have some factual evidence where you can definately point out that most of all the cops in the world are corrupt. If you don't then your stance and argument are weak, at best, when it comes to such a statement.

What you're doing there is no different then any racist person deciding that a black person driving a nice car, in a nice neighborhood, has to be a thief who stole the car and is there to steal from people in that area.

Two wrongs don't make it right. You pissing on all cops cause you;ve seen some dirties ones isn't any different, and certainly makes you no better a person, then the stupid ones deciding that all blacks are thugs or trouble makers.


Cops tend to be the most prejudiced kind amongst us all. Few are honorable or honest, imo. But, hey, that's just me. At least I admit it.

And it's as silly an assumption as any moron out there who assumes all Mexicans are lazy thieves or all blacks are gang banging, thugish, trouble makers.

That kind of thinking is just as flawed, just as scary, and quite frankly just as big a part of the problem as the other.


If you want to see the worst assumptions, look no further than those made by the police.

All assumptions of what a person is, or isn't, based off their job, race, sex, religion, hair color, eye color, height, weight, etc is ignorant beyond belief.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

As V-twin said, what if he took it out to make sure the valet didn't steal it? What if he took it out to secure it b/c his car was going to be left over night? What if he took it out bc he called a tow truck and wanted to be safe?

All three of these scenarios are a violation of handgun laws in their own right.

 

[Hoofbite]

Well, now that it's been cleared up that he didn't point it at anyone and the he was sober, we're still condemning him for wrong doing based of a valets statements to the police.... The valet is entitled to feel or perceive things as he wants, and he's entitled to make statements to the police. The question is was his perception reality? And was his statement warranted?

As V-twin said, what if he took it out to make sure the valet didn't steal it? What if he took it out to secure it b/c his car was going to be left over night? What if he took it out bc he called a tow truck and wanted to be safe?

You're still not getting this, are you?

What if, what if.

Why was it in the bushes?

Find me a "what if" that rationally explains him ditching the gun in the shrubs.

 

[CF74]

What if, what if.

Why was it in the bushes?

Find me a "what if" that rationally explains him ditching the gun in the shrubs.

Only one of two people put that gun in the bushes, the valet guy or cricket himself.

It's very possible but unlikely that since the valet had the keys to Crickets car he could have very easily swiped it and hid it in the bushes to retrieve later. We don't know all the facts because Crickets lawyers haven't released an official statement yet...

 

[Hoofbite]

Only one of two people put that gun in the bushes, the valet guy or cricket himself.

It's very possible but unlikely that since the valet had the keys to Crickets car he could have very easily swiped it and hid it in the bushes to retrieve later. We don't know all the facts because Crickets lawyers haven't released an official statement yet...

Could have been Deon's brother who was later arrested for public intoxication.

 

[CF74]

Could have been Deon's brother who was later arrested for public intoxication.

That would be the best scapegoat in this scenario unless he's a brainiac with a future. Cricket can foot the attorney bill....

 

[Venger]

We might as well burn the Constitution

Oh Destiny! We had might as well go and destroy the Constitution rather than post our comments in an internet forum! What constitutional principle is at risk in a Dallas Cowboys forum again? It's this sort of ridiculous over the top rhetoric that makes everyone wonder what leads someone to cash in reality in order to live in a sports-team related fantasy.

If someone is accused, then by gosh they must be guilty.

So you make NEW accusations, insinuating that the valet made up the accusation or might have planted the gun, or the cops might be untrustworthy - you'll push the valet and police under the bus with ZERO evidence, while contorting yourself like an Escher drawing to find a set of circumstances that reveals Anderson in an innocent light. Leprechauns and unicorns, ANYTHING other than Deon doing what he's accused of...

The fact is, no facts are known to us other than these are allegations. Why that's so hard to get for you and others is beyond me.

Here you are arguing for arguing's sake - what are we to discuss other than the facts as we know them? Since we didn't witness them, anything might have happened? Again, back to leprechauns and unicorns for you, since you can't REALLY know the facts, can you?

You'd think you'd be pulling for the guy. He hasn't done anything to hurt our team and it isn't like he's been a trouble maker here or elsewhere.

What does "pulling for the guy" have to do with the truth? THIS is the motivation for your cognitive dissonance - you want him to be innocent, and there's no length you won't go to insinuate everyone else is involved but Deon. There is hope, when things are unknown, and there is desperation, which is hope against evidence. You're working with the latter.

Looky here, the media is clearing up the "facts that are known" as we speak.

As more facts are revealed, a rational person analyzes them and reevaluates conclusions. But you're not really dealing in facts, just rationalizations.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Oh Destiny! We had might as well go and destroy the Constitution rather than post our comments in an internet forum! What constitutional principle is at risk in a Dallas Cowboys forum again? It's this sort of ridiculous over the top rhetoric that makes everyone wonder what leads someone to cash in reality in order to live in a sports-team related fantasy.

It wasn't meant to be taken literally.

So you make NEW accusations, insinuating that the valet made up the accusation or might have planted the gun, or the cops might be untrustworthy - you'll push the valet and police under the bus with ZERO evidence, while contorting yourself like an Escher drawing to find a set of circumstances that reveals Anderson in an innocent light. Leprechauns and unicorns, ANYTHING other than Deon doing what he's accused of...

It's not an accusation; it's a theory of what else may have happened.

Here you are arguing for arguing's sake - what are we to discuss other than the facts as we know them? Since we didn't witness them, anything might have happened? Again, back to leprechauns and unicorns for you, since you can't REALLY know the facts, can you?

Really, you believe it every time someone makes an allegation? And what facts do you know other than there was a complaint made and a warrant filed for deadly conduct.

What does "pulling for the guy" have to do with the truth? THIS is the motivation for your cognitive dissonance - you want him to be innocent, and there's no length you won't go to insinuate everyone else is involved but Deon. There is hope, when things are unknown, and there is desperation, which is hope against evidence. You're working with the latter.

I want people to be treated fairly through due process, not be convicted by the media and handgun alarmists.

As more facts are revealed, a rational person analyzes them and reevaluates conclusions. But you're not really dealing in facts, just rationalizations.

I'm saying wait for the facts. That's my rationalization and my analysis. But I'm just going by legal principles such as innocent until proven guilty.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

What if, what if.

Why was it in the bushes?

Find me a "what if" that rationally explains him ditching the gun in the shrubs.

Who said he put it there? Or maybe he knew the cops were going to be called and didn't want his gun found. The facts that have came out already said he didn't point it at the guy, so I'm not sure what crime has been committed.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Could have been Deon's brother who was later arrested for public intoxication.

Hey, that's a plausible theory. Why the change of tune?

 

[TheCount]

He probably didn't have total job security to begin with, but it's not like this team reacts normally to stuff like this.

Hell, they cut Keith Davis for getting shot, then signed him again and then kept him after he got shot again.

It would be foolish to assume what the team will do.

Killah Keith. I miss him already.

 

[Hoofbite]

Hey, that's a plausible theory. Why the change of tune?

I was just pointing out that the valet and Deon weren't the only two people there.

Even if it was his brother I doubt it matters. His guns, his car.