'Deadly Conduct' warrrant issued for Deon Anderson

[Hoofbite]

Who said he put it there? Or maybe he knew the cops were going to be called and didn't want his gun found. The facts that have came out already said he didn't point it at the guy, so I'm not sure what crime has been committed.

Pretty sure that retrieving a gun from your car during an argument isn't legal, pointed or not.

 

[Venger]

It wasn't meant to be taken literally.

It doesn't even work rhetorically. It just sounds breathless.

It's not an accusation; it's a theory of what else may have happened.

Why is conjecture about Deon's guilt based on facts worse than your conjecture based on anything but?

Really, you believe it every time someone makes an allegation?

Depends on the allegation and the supporting facts. There is certainly nothing to make this allegation completely unreasonable, and the complaint is certainly more believable than your fantastic theories to the contrary.

And what facts do you know other than there was a complaint made and a warrant filed for deadly conduct.

There's enough to file a charge, which means that evidence and testimony is sufficiently present to cause law enforcement to act.

I want people to be treated fairly through due process, not be convicted by the media and handgun alarmists.

Who is denying him due process for crying out loud? Who is arguing to deny it? NOBODY. Just because I conclude he is likely in deep trouble and probably did what is alleged doesn't have any material affect on how he goes through the criminal justice system. Because *I* think he likely did it, based on what is known, doesn't mean anything other than... I think he likely did it.

What is a handgun alarmist? I surely am not one of those... I have a CHL and carry arm 18 inches from my keyboard. That said, it is precisely the kind of behavior alleged here that gives handguns a bad rap. It's not the gun, it's the clown flashing it.

I'm saying wait for the facts. That's my rationalization and my analysis. But I'm just going by legal principles such as innocent until proven guilty.

You could have stated "We need to wait for all the facts before jumping to any great conclusions" - instead, we heard oddball theories that were far more fantastic conjecture based on desires as a fan of a team than real dispassionate, rational thought.

We have likely beaten this to death, to me the facts don't look very good for Deon, I see frankly little reason to expect any explanation to pan out other than what has been reported - that he was upset with a valet and brandished a gun, which is far more believable than a valet took his gun, tossed it in the bushes, then... you get the picture.

 

[Hostile]

Who said he put it there? Or maybe he knew the cops were going to be called and didn't want his gun found. The facts that have came out already said he didn't point it at the guy, so I'm not sure what crime has been committed.

I think that is the problem. The rest of us are all aware, and you have no idea.

 

[CF74]

()3ned!!!:laugh2:

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I think that is the problem. The rest of us are all aware, and you have no idea.

So who committed a crime?

 

[Hostile]

So who committed a crime?

I am going to answer with a question.

Who owns the gun found in the bushes?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I am going to answer with a question.

Who owns the gun found in the bushes?

So you're sure about this?

 

[Hostile]

So you're sure about this?

I have 2 words for you.

Chambered round.

I have two more.

Concealed weapon.

Look up both. You will find there are laws.

Even if he never pointed the gun at the valet and never cursed him or raised his voice to him. If he had a gun in the vehicle with a chambered round he is afoul of the law especially if he does not have a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

The story loses me right there with those 1st 2 words. Chambered round.

He could very well get off with a slap on the wrist, but it is still monumentally stupid.

 

[Beast_from_East]

This speaks for itself.

As does this about your comprehension level. Being that the "victim" was Deon's valet, the dude had the keys.

:laugh2:

And how dare I accuse a Sargent of police. All being a Sargent of police means is your willing to accept the corruption of other police. You really have no idea how the system works, and you have this fantasy notion that police are honorable and credible people in general, which couldn't be further from the truth.

So all Police Officers are corrupt and the notion that Police (in general) are honorable and credible people is a fantasy. That is what you are saying???


I will tell you first hand that I have family members who are Police Officers and the overwhelming majority of law enforcement officials are decent, honorable, straight as a board public servants. You sit in front of your computer spewing your cop hate garbage that all cops are corrupt and the truth is that you dont have the balls to do the job cops do.

I would like to see you pull over car at 3 AM in the morning and walk up to the window not knowing if the driver is stung out on drugs or something and is going to blow your head off. I would like to see you run into a business with an armed robbery in progress, you would **** your pants when you started getting shot at.

You dont have the balls to do the job cops do on a dailey basis, and frankly your intelligence level is too low to acually have a debate with you on the merits of this case. Its like the old saying goes, never try to teach a pig to sing. It waste your time and annoys the pig.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I have 2 words for you.

Chambered round.

I have two more.

Concealed weapon.

Look up both. You will find there are laws.

Even if he never pointed the gun at the valet and never cursed him or raised his voice to him. If he had a gun in the vehicle with a chambered round he is afoul of the law especially if he does not have a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

The story loses me right there with those 1st 2 words. Chambered round.

He could very well get off with a slap on the wrist, but it is still monumentally stupid.

Nah Hos didn't you know this is all part of the evil valet agenda? Didn't you know he sat around, all day, trying to decide what he might be able to do to someone with some fame to get them thrown in a jail and decided that Deon Anderson was the perfect canidate for him to find a gun in Deons car, chamber a round, and then throw it in the bush?


Now I dont know if Deon pointed this gun at the guy, or anything like that, and I certainly hope he didn't.

But if he had that weapon in his car, concealed, without a license to do so and he had it in the car with a round in the chamber, then its incredibly stupid on his part.

Of course those are all still ifs. I don't know if he has a permit or any of that. We'll have to wait and see.

But while we wait and see we're supposed to, according to Cowboy, simply assume that the better alternative is that all valets are low life thieves who are looking to screw people over.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I have a hard time believing why a very strong pro athlete would need to brandish a gun after being p'd at a valet. That part is what makes the least sense to me.

Yea, its so hard to believe that an athelete would pull a gun on somebody........the more realistic scenario is that the Valet and the Police Officer planted the gun in the bushes to frame poor old Deon.


Dude, you are getting so busted up in this thread that somebody needs to throw the towel in the ring.:laugh2:

 

[dcfanatic]

Yea, its so hard to believe that an athelete would pull a gun on somebody........the more realistic scenario is that the Valet and the Police Officer planted the gun in the bushes to frame poor old Deon.


Dude, you are getting so busted up in this thread that somebody needs to throw the towel in the ring.:laugh2:

The best part is that he tried to use that useless blurb from DC.com to say that this was now 'much to do about nothing', lol.

They didn't clear anything up.

No reports ever said he pointed the gun at the valet, that he was drunk or that he was 'on the run'.

DC.com was just trying to sugarcoat this thing and they failed miserably if you are a person with a working brain.

And we know a few people in here don't have one of those.

I have already heard today that the Cowboys upper brass is pissed because there was a gun involved in this incident. With all that's gone on with the Plexico deal you would think these players would know better.

But Deon Anderson is no brain surgeon...

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[Thatkidbob]

But Deon Anderson is no brain surgeon...
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Ehhh...

besides that the fact that he still wears oversized white T's, uses "like" and "you know" as verbal crutches, doesn't articulate his thoughts clearly, and seems to have difficulty staying on a single topic doesn't necessarily mean that he's dumb...

He's just...


goofy.


Ok, maybe he's dumb.

 

[Hostile]

Nah Hos didn't you know this is all part of the evil valet agenda? Didn't you know he sat around, all day, trying to decide what he might be able to do to someone with some fame to get them thrown in a jail and decided that Deon Anderson was the perfect canidate for him to find a gun in Deons car, chamber a round, and then throw it in the bush?


Now I dont know if Deon pointed this gun at the guy, or anything like that, and I certainly hope he didn't.

But if he had that weapon in his car, concealed, without a license to do so and he had it in the car with a round in the chamber, then its incredibly stupid on his part.

Of course those are all still ifs. I don't know if he has a permit or any of that. We'll have to wait and see.

But while we wait and see we're supposed to, according to Cowboy, simply assume that the better alternative is that all valets are low life thieves who are looking to screw people over.

There are really only 2 things that disturb me about this story. A chambered round and gun found by police in the bushes. I hate that he had one in the car in the first place, but I can chalk that up to lack of knowledge about specific laws in Texas.

A chambered round to me is bad news and an imminent threat. It takes mere seconds to grab that weapon and fire. Life over.

Discarding it in the bushes to me sends a message that he knew he was in the wrong and was desperate to cover up his act.

Utter freaking stupidity. Forget all the semantics over valets and cops and credibility. Get down to brass tacks. Whose gun is it? If it belongs to Deon Anderson, is concealed in a car, has a chambered round, and was retrieved from the bushes then he is probably in trouble. It does not matter to me whether he was ever angry at the valet or had the weapon in his hand while confronting the valet.

If the police had found the gun in the car, untouched by him at any time in this confrontation, but with a chambered round...he is dead wrong and irresponsible. It is really just that simple. The rest of the story make it all so much worse.

Oh, and yeah his anti-cop diatribe is horribly offensive to me too. I have several law enforcement officers in my family in Texas. I consider the local law enforcement officers to be friends and I will never understand anti-cop feelings by anyone.

 

[Hoofbite]

There are really only 2 things that disturb me about this story. A chambered round and gun found by police in the bushes. I hate that he had one in the car in the first place, but I can chalk that up to lack of knowledge about specific laws in Texas.

A chambered round to me is bad news and an imminent threat. It takes mere seconds to grab that weapon and fire. Life over.

Discarding it in the bushes to me sends a message that he knew he was in the wrong and was desperate to cover up his act.

Utter freaking stupidity. Forget all the semantics over valets and cops and credibility. Get down to brass tacks. Whose gun is it? If it belongs to Deon Anderson, is concealed in a car, has a chambered round, and was retrieved from the bushes then he is probably in trouble. It does not matter to me whether he was ever angry at the valet or had the weapon in his hand while confronting the valet.

If the police had found the gun in the car, untouched by him at any time in this confrontation, but with a chambered round...he is dead wrong and irresponsible. It is really just that simple. The rest of the story make it all so much worse.

Oh, and yeah his anti-cop diatribe is horribly offensive to me too. I have several law enforcement officers in my family in Texas. I consider the local law enforcement officers to be friends and I will never understand anti-cop feelings by anyone.

I understand it. Its quite obvious and pathetic.

Every person I have ever met who had some sort of grudge against the police was the victim of some elaborate set up by law enforcement. Every person I have ever met who hates the police is always having run-ins with the police.

Anyone else notice this?

I've never met anyone who never had run-ins with the police but still hated them.

Not one person.

All the people who complain about cops are always getting into trouble so it is no surprise they don't like them. Sure, there are bad cops but that's because there are bad people in general. But guess what, there are bad [insert profession here]. You think everyone who ever cooked you a hamburger at McDs is some great humanitarian? Doubtful. If you believe it then please continue to think so as you choke down another Big Mac with real "special sauce" of some sort.

Most people I have met went through the teenager stage where the cops were a worse version of your parents and were looking only to shut down all your fun. Tickets for smoking, tickets for partying, tickets for speeding, etc. I'd say a good number of teenagers feel some sort of resentment towards authority in general. Once you set foot outside your parents house though, I think the majority of the people who feel that resentment come to realize that it was a only a phase that they were going through.

How any grown man without a rap sheet can hold some sort of grudge against the people who put their life on the line to protect them is ridiculous. You might think some cops are bad but I'd bet the bad one's would still show up when you called to report a burglar in your house.

 

[Hostile]

I understand it. Its quite obvious and pathetic.

Every person I have ever met who had some sort of grudge against the police was the victim of some elaborate set up by law enforcement. Every person I have ever met who hates the police is always having run-ins with the police.

Anyone else notice this?

I've never met anyone who never had run-ins with the police but still hated them.

Not one person.

All the people who complain about cops are always getting into trouble so it is no surprise they don't like them. Sure, there are bad cops but that's because there are bad people in general. But guess what, there are bad [insert profession here]. You think everyone who ever cooked you a hamburger at McDs is some great humanitarian? Doubtful. If you believe it then please continue to think so as you choke down another Big Mac with real "special sauce" of some sort.

Most people I have met went through the teenager stage where the cops were a worse version of your parents and were looking only to shut down all your fun. Tickets for smoking, tickets for partying, tickets for speeding, etc. I'd say a good number of teenagers feel some sort of resentment towards authority in general. Once you set foot outside your parents house though, I think the majority of the people who feel that resentment come to realize that it was a only a phase that they were going through.

How any grown man without a rap sheet can hold some sort of grudge against the people who put their life on the line to protect them is ridiculous. You might think some cops are bad but I'd bet the bad one's would still show up when you called to report a burglar in your house.

Spot on.

 

[el_chevo]

Right, all police are saints in armor:laugh2: And, by the way, I worked in the judicial system for several years. Crappy people are everywhere. My point, of course, is that too many people have already thrown cricket under the bus. What part of allegedly did everyone miss? We don't know the whole story. For all we know, Hos, the gun could have been thrown into the bush by the Valet.

I understand it. Its quite obvious and pathetic.

Every person I have ever met who had some sort of grudge against the police was the victim of some elaborate set up by law enforcement. Every person I have ever met who hates the police is always having run-ins with the police.

Anyone else notice this?

I've never met anyone who never had run-ins with the police but still hated them.

Not one person.

All the people who complain about cops are always getting into trouble so it is no surprise they don't like them. Sure, there are bad cops but that's because there are bad people in general. But guess what, there are bad [insert profession here]. You think everyone who ever cooked you a hamburger at McDs is some great humanitarian? Doubtful. If you believe it then please continue to think so as you choke down another Big Mac with real "special sauce" of some sort.

Most people I have met went through the teenager stage where the cops were a worse version of your parents and were looking only to shut down all your fun. Tickets for smoking, tickets for partying, tickets for speeding, etc. I'd say a good number of teenagers feel some sort of resentment towards authority in general. Once you set foot outside your parents house though, I think the majority of the people who feel that resentment come to realize that it was a only a phase that they were going through.

How any grown man without a rap sheet can hold some sort of grudge against the people who put their life on the line to protect them is ridiculous. You might think some cops are bad but I'd bet the bad one's would still show up when you called to report a burglar in your house.

 

[el_chevo]

Quite an assessment...

Ehhh...

besides that the fact that he still wears oversized white T's, uses "like" and "you know" as verbal crutches, doesn't articulate his thoughts clearly, and seems to have difficulty staying on a single topic doesn't necessarily mean that he's dumb...

He's just...


goofy.


Ok, maybe he's dumb.

 

[Plumfool]

I'm in law enforcement and I understand
why certain folks have resentment towards police officers. There are many who may not be "dirty" but who push the envelope. I've even been pulled over multiple times by such police officers and was put off by the "Im the law" attitude. The faces they make when they find out I'm in law enforcement is priceless.

That being said there is nothing being reported about possible funny business. I find any such insinuation on this site offensive and insulting to not only me but to the officers involved.

 

[el_chevo]

Spot on.

I'm in law enforcement and I understand
why certain folks have resentment towards police officers. There are many who may not be "dirty" but who push the envelope. I've even been pulled over multiple times by such police officers and was put off by the "Im the law" attitude. The faces they make when they find out I'm in law enforcement is priceless.

That being said there is nothing being reported about possible funny business. I find any such insinuation on this site offensive and insulting to not only me but to the officers involved.