Deandre Hopkins asking price

[cnuball21]

It was a somewhat flippant comparison, based on this idea that our receiving issues are due to an inability to get separation. Why pay the additional to Hopkins when we didnt utilize Hilton's ability to get open.

I worked it out as Hopkins costing his base salary $19.4m ('23) and then $14.5m against the CAP (though I read somewhere that 2023 CAP hit is just $8m). If it's $19m we'd need to work out an extension (unless we go stupid and restructure everyone).

Hilton played in 3 games and ran around 25 total routes last year.

His sample size is borderline non existent.

 

[blueblood70]

I really like the way DeAndre Hopkins plays. If he's 3/4 of the player he used to be, he's definitely worth a 2

sure a 2 and reduce his contract. He wants more money its straight NO...age, production, draft pic, and huge contract=no. pay the guy 16mil per and maybe hes worth a 2we didnt get rid of cooper for 5th to avoid his 22mil and then bring in an older player for a 2 and similar money.lol that makes ZERO SENSE.,

Lets move on to actual payers that are true FAs and doesn't require draft pocks and huge salary's to be our 2A or 2..we do have CD and Gallup. fans lie you are not GMS for reason. you can get a WR round 1 or 2 with high end talent why trade for olde rone who demands $$$$

 

[blueblood70]

can we get that production off of OBJ? Hilton... you are comparing Hiton with Hopkins? not one GM in the NFL would say they are close.

Extension? I am not a cap expert... he has 2 years remaining on his deal. If he is traded, what will the actual cap hit be for each of the next 2 seasons? If im reading it right and it costs 30 and then 26 million in the following 2 years... the no way would I do that. I would turn my attention to obj since it would cost nothing. But again, Id have to 100% understand how his coontract impacts the Cowboys before I could say yes or no to Hopkins.

By the way, TY Hilton on the cheap Id be up for also. He played well in his limited time here.

exactly OBJ and a high draft pick OBJ can be solid 2 or 2a or even a 3 plus nice draft pick..no trades for older players with big contracts,

 

[cnuball21]

exactly OBJ and a high draft pick OBJ can be solid 2 or 2a or even a 3 plus nice draft pick..no trades for older players with big contracts,

As long as he’s healthy OBJ at 80% of his prime is better than anyone on our roster outside of Lamb.

I’d be fine with him then maybe draft a dynamic slot player in the first few rounds.

 

[Beaker42]

Cowboys will offer a 5th.

More like 2 2024 9th rounders that'll become 8th rounders based on how well we do in the playoffs.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I would love to trade for him, but remember the Cowboys need to pay Lamb soon. How much are you giving D-Hop and Lamb?

I would rather draft a receiver with more speed in the first round and have him around for five years on a rookie contract. And keep the 2nd round pick too.

 

[plasticman]

For what?

Can they guarantee the Late 2010's, Perennial All Pro, In his prime, Deandre?

Or would we be getting Post-Covid, Broken down, In his 30's, Eight games max Deandre?

 

[Hadenough]

Hopkins would be a waste. Dak couldn't distribute the ball when Amari was here. Besides the Cowboys are so far over the cap they couldn't afford Hopkins if the wanted him.

 

[IslandCowboy]

This guy is one of the best, a second is a steal for a need position, go get em. Will also expose the fact that no matter who you put around Dak he's not that good.

 

[Typhus]

Chasing older WRs past their prime is not the answer.

 

[js66]

Like everything, it depends on the options.... More about cap resources than picks to me. I'd give the late 2nd.

Is it Shultz or Hopkins? Hopkins
Is it Cooks or Hopkins? Hopkins
Gallup or Hopkins? For me, Hopkins
Long term does it cost us the cap space to keep a solid Oline/Dline? In that case I save $ for the lines.

 

[blueblood70]

Like everything, it depends on the options.... More about cap resources than picks to me. I'd give the late 2nd.

Is it Shultz or Hopkins? Hopkins
Is it Cooks or Hopkins? Hopkins
Gallup or Hopkins? For me, Hopkins
Long term does it cost us the cap space to keep a solid Oline/Dline? In that case I save $ for the lines.

short term cap hit and a draft pick for hopkins is not what smart GM does this dudes up in age owed insane money and wants a new deal same with Ramseys.. glad fans aren't gms.

I like dhop but there's options out there that wont cost that MUCH TO add to this wr group, who btw we already have 1 and a 2 in Gallup another 2A option would be nice and that's whomever we get IN FA not via trade and guess what use that draft pick on a speedy slot WR in the draft,.,.easy pz.

PS if the was ever going to happen AC would still be here. They aren't looking for #1 they are looking for quality depth to make some plays , shcultz was going anyway.

 

[Rockport]

No

He’s washed up

How do you know? Seriously.

 

[js66]

short term cap hit and a draft pick for hopkins is not what smart GM does this dudes up in age owed insane money and wants a new deal same with Ramseys.. glad fans aren't gms.

I like dhop but there's options out there that wont cost that MUCH TO add to this wr group, who btw we already have 1 and a 2 in Gallup another 2A option would be nice and that's whomever we get IN FA not via trade and guess what use that draft pick on a speedy slot WR in the draft,.,.easy pz.

PS if the was ever going to happen AC would still be here. They aren't looking for #1 they are looking for quality depth to make some plays , shcultz was going anyway.

Depends on how you feel about Gallup I guess... I'd pick up Hopkins and trade Gallup for a pick in a heartbeat. Those two players aren't even comparable in my eyes. I don't feel great about Gallup, even as a 2, and would use some of that salary for Hopkins. I thought Gallup was an ok 3 with Cooper here.

I also am not a Dak fan. Hopkins is very QB friendly, and will catch some inaccurate balls where others won't. I would pair him with Lamb, a mid level TE and a fairly solid Oline and determine Dak's future this year. If you can't do it with this... you can't do it... and we move on, rather than pick up a mid level guy like Chark and the excuse of not having weapons is there.

As for Ramsey and Cooper... I probably wouldn't go the 1st some have rumored for Ramsey. I'd also allocate the money to pass rush rather than CB. I think the Cooper move was more about his attitude, Covid and not listening to the Jones family more than anything else. They didn't feel his commitment was there for the money paid.

 

[blueblood70]

Depends on how you feel about Gallup I guess... I'd pick up Hopkins and trade Gallup for a pick in a heartbeat. Those two players aren't even comparable in my eyes. I don't feel great about Gallup, even as a 2, and would use some of that salary for Hopkins. I thought Gallup was an ok 3 with Cooper here.

I also am not a Dak fan. Hopkins is very QB friendly, and will catch some inaccurate balls where others won't. I would pair him with Lamb, a mid level TE and a fairly solid Oline and determine Dak's future this year. If you can't do it with this... you can't do it... and we move on, rather than pick up a mid level guy like Chark and the excuse of not having weapons is there.

As for Ramsey and Cooper... I probably wouldn't go the 1st some have rumored for Ramsey. I'd also allocate the money to pass rush rather than CB. I think the Cooper move was more about his attitude, Covid and not listening to the Jones family more than anything else. They didn't feel his commitment was there for the money paid.

you don't read well..i get it go check his contract and wants new one then get back to me on how at his age and daft pick is worth that after just getting rid of cooper for 5th and 22mil wasn't working or us? if the FO wanted to pay a 2nd 1st money, coop would still be here? let it sink in then realize ITS NOT HAPPENING

its will be payer like OBJ to complement Gallup and a draft pick, that what GM should do no trades for high salary aged vets. Different story of hop got a 2 but said he restructure to under 16 per..sure, that not what his salary is ..hes due ridiculous amount. he would have to accept something like 4yrs 60mil with 30 guaranteed and make it a true 2 years 30mil and be able to release him after 2024 to make it work..

https://overthecap.com/player/deandre-hopkins/2208


now go back to madden and FF..


What is DeAndre Hopkins new contract?


His salary in 2023 is $19.5 million and his cap number is more than $30 million. His dead cap number, if he were to be traded, is $22.6M. He has a no-trade clause in his contract, so he has the right to scuttle a deal if he doesn't like it. He has no more guaranteed money in the last two years of his contract.Jan 11, 2023

The Future Of DeAndre Hopkins - Arizona Cardinals​

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Is DeAndre Hopkins a free agent in 2023?


In 2023, Hopkins will earn a base salary of $19,450,000, while carrying a cap hit of $30,750,000 and a dead cap value of $22,600,000.
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[kskboys]

As long as he’s healthy OBJ at 80% of his prime is better than anyone on our roster outside of Lamb.

I’d be fine with him then maybe draft a dynamic slot player in the first few rounds.

He's prolly better than Lamb at 80%.

How in the world do people not know how good this guy is? Makes no sense. Living in a bubble?

 

[kskboys]

How do you know? Seriously.

He's not. Silly stuff by people who just make crapp up.

 

[js66]

you don't read well..i get it go check his contract and wants new one then get back to me on how at his age and daft pick is worth that after just getting rid of cooper for 5th and 22mil wasn't working or us? if the FO wanted to pay a 2nd 1st money, coop would still be here? let it sink in then realize ITS NOT HAPPENING

its will be payer like OBJ to complement Gallup and a draft pick, that what GM should do no trades for high salary aged vets. Different story of hop got a 2 but said he restructure to under 16 per..sure, that not what his salary is ..hes due ridiculous amount. he would have to accept something like 4yrs 60mil with 30 guaranteed and make it a true 2 years 30mil and be able to release him after 2024 to make it work..

https://overthecap.com/player/deandre-hopkins/2208


now go back to madden and FF..


What is DeAndre Hopkins new contract?


His salary in 2023 is $19.5 million and his cap number is more than $30 million. His dead cap number, if he were to be traded, is $22.6M. He has a no-trade clause in his contract, so he has the right to scuttle a deal if he doesn't like it. He has no more guaranteed money in the last two years of his contract.Jan 11, 2023

The Future Of DeAndre Hopkins - Arizona Cardinals​

https://www.azcardinals.com › news › the-future-of-car...


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Is DeAndre Hopkins a free agent in 2023?


In 2023, Hopkins will earn a base salary of $19,450,000, while carrying a cap hit of $30,750,000 and a dead cap value of $22,600,000.
...

From your own linked article "Playing only nine games, Hopkins still led the team in receiving yards (717)". This guy is not washed up... He's also not that old and not a pure speed WR.

Am I saying anywhere that this is likely? He would obviously have to want to come to Dallas to make this work and there would be concessions on both sides. I am not against an OBJ signing either, but having Gallup wouldn't prevent me from looking elsewhere. Gallup is JAG making way too much. I could see a scenario where they restructure and cut others to fit in Hopkins. It would be a move to win now and also find out about your QB and if you want to move forward with him.

Agree to disagree, but Cooper being sent packing had more to do with his cap hit and production. Just because they traded Cooper doesn't mean they would avoid any other top WR. Is it likely, probably not... but possible, yeah. I would love a win now move and in the process find out if Dak is the guy and all it costs is a late 2nd which could easily bust anyways.

 

[fivetwos]

He's prolly better than Lamb at 80%.

How in the world do people not know how good this guy is? Makes no sense. Living in a bubble?

I wouldn’t mind him for a 2nd.

Just don’t want to give him a new deal, and apparently that’s what he wants.

 

[cnuball21]

He's prolly better than Lamb at 80%.

How in the world do people not know how good this guy is? Makes no sense. Living in a bubble?

Ehh I think that’s a stretch…

But yea, he could certainly help if he’s healthy.