DeAndre Hopkins to sign with Titans

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Hopkins only played 9 games last year and had Colt Mccoy and David Blough throwing him the ball. Had he not been suspended he was on pace for a 1300 yard season, what Ceedee Lamb did and something Cooks has never done. He was twice the receiver Cooks was last year. Both of his first two games back he had double digit catches. Dude was back to business the moment he returned; Titans got a steal here
Whatever. Hopkins was suspended 6 games in 2022 for using PEDs (performance enhancing drugs)!!! Guess why he did that? Because his skills have diminished with age. Look at his 2021 season stats. Absolutely horrible. All signs of diminishing performance due to age, hence why he had to take PEDs!!! The guy is toast. Finished.

Hilarious to assume he could outperform CeeDee and Cooks! Yeah, if he has to take drugs to cheat!!!
 

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With Ryan Tannehill going to end up on the bench at some point this season they need a good receiver for their rookie QB. Still don’t understand why they didn’t find a way to pay AJ Brown. It’s not like they’re paying a franchise QB big money.
 

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Whatever. Hopkins was suspended 6 games in 2022 for using PEDs (performance enhancing drugs)!!! Guess why he did that? Because his skills have diminished with age. Look at his 2021 season stats. Absolutely horrible. All signs of diminishing performance due to age, hence why he had to take PEDs!!! The guy is toast. Finished.

Hilarious to assume he could outperform CeeDee and Cooks! Yeah, if he has to take drugs to cheat!!!
idk about toast, he is still serviceable imo but not at what he signed for.
 

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Whatever. Hopkins was suspended 6 games in 2022 for using PEDs (performance enhancing drugs)!!! Guess why he did that? Because his skills have diminished with age. Look at his 2021 season stats. Absolutely horrible. All signs of diminishing performance due to age, hence why he had to take PEDs!!! The guy is toast. Finished.

Hilarious to assume he could outperform CeeDee and Cooks! Yeah, if he has to take drugs to cheat!!!
He failed for Ostarine. Yours is a take based on narrative not on context
 

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Not sure why a 31 year old would sign with the Titans, practically no chance of contending during what's left of his career.
Simple .........he followed the money. He made no secret he was hoping for more but my guess is the Titans forced his hand with a deadline to accept their offer.
 

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Way better? Buy some reading glasses and do your homework...

Look at their last 2 seasons of production. It's not even close who has produced more...

DeAndre Hopkins

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HopkDe00.htm

Brandin Cooks

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CookBr00.htm
DHop played 9 games because of injury and still had 717 yards. He had some huge games. Just being fair on the comparison. here. I have no clue how he will do but he’s still talented
 

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Cooks will be 30 this season. So he’s the savior for Dak, but D-Hop is washed up?

I agree he’s being paid a bit too much, but I can’t help wondering what the narrative would be on this board if it was the Cowboys who signed him
Dak just runs the scheme. It doesn’t matter who his WR is, he locks on the first read pretty much all the time.
 

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The Dalton Schultz of receivers. Thinks he will command a huge market and when it doesn’t happen he signs a below market contract with a terrible team
 

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Good lord what? Look at my previous statement. I added the links to their career stats. Brandin Cooks by far has produced more than Hopkins, especially the past 2 seasons. It's not even close.

Hes really an interesting case. He has performed everywhere he has been yet teams have always managed to let him out the door.

One point that is often overlooked though, is he has brought back good value.

In total, the four trades involving Cooks have netted his former teams two first-round picks, a second-round pick, a third-round pick, a fifth-round pick and two sixth-round picks.

He has been under rated for a long time.
 

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This will be a bit more longwinded than @Aerolithe_Lion good post. I played fantasy football last year and picked up Hopkins mid-season for my team. I watched every game involving players on my fantasy roster, so I had an opportunity to see Hopkins perform last season.

The Cardinals' 2022 season began with DeAndre Hopkins suspended. Suspensions do not gauge player's ability.

17 - 6 (suspended) = 11 games to analyze Hopkins' last season stats.

Cardinals Announce Major DeAndre Hopkins Update Ahead of Falcons Game

By Daniel Chavkin | Sports Illustrated
December 31, 2022

The Cardinals announced that DeAndre Hopkins will miss Sunday’s game vs. the Falcons with a knee injury... Hopkins practiced for most of the week, but left Friday’s practice with the injury. Read more
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Sometimes players get hurt in practice. It happens. Sometimes players pass physicals and get signed to 2-year, 26 million dollar contracts. It happens.

The Cardinals' 2022 season ended with DeAndre Hopkins injured. An injury can keep a player off the field but cannot be held against the player unless it proves detrimental to their level of play. Everyone will see in 2023 if Hopkins' 2022 knee injury actually matters this season.

11 - 2 (injured) = 9 games to analyze Hopkins' last season stats.

A moment for a quote:

Bill Belichick Loves Him Some D-Hop, And That Means A Lot

By Darren Urban | arcardinals.com
December 8, 2022


"He's got tremendous ball skills, he catches everything, great hands. He's never covered — even if he's covered, there's a place the ball can be that he can get it, still make the catch. Great coordination on the sidelines, and he doesn't really look it but he's a strong kid. You see him break tackles, he's strong creating separation, yards after contact, extra yards around the goal line or the extra yard for a first down. He's a smart football player, very savvy. His ball skills are at the very elite level with guys I've seen in this league.

He's up there with whoever the top guys are. Cris Carters of the world and guys like that. He's every bit as good as anybody I've ever coached against." Read more
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Back to the stats eval, starting with his most pitiful receiving performance last season. Oh. Wait. Got another article.

Arizona Cardinals WR Greg Dortch shines in Week 16 loss

By Christian Odjakjiandec | NFL.com
December 26, 2022

Wide receiver Greg Dortch caught a career high 10 catches on 11 targets in the loss, which he turned into 98 receiving yards... With starting quarterback Kyler Murray out for the season and backup Colt McCoy dealing with a concussion, 27-year-old Trace McSorley was left to lead the Cardinals. McSorley struggled to connect with star receiver DeAndre Hopkins (1 reception for 4 yards on 10 targets) but found plenty of success when targeting Dortch. Read more
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I invite ANYONE to watch the Cardinals/Buccaneers replay. That bleepity-bleep bleep THIRD string quarterback could not either locate or FIT a pass into coverage for Hopkins. All game. And watch the coverages for Dortch as well. Watch the entire game.


9 - 1 (read above) = 8 games to analyze Hopkins' last season stats.

Backup quarterback Colt McCoy was better but not by much over McSorley. At least McCoy could get the ball to his #1 receiver. In the four games McCoy subbed for Kyler Murray... oh. Wait. Another article.

Cardinals QB Kyler Murray on ACL injury: 'The job doesn't stop. And I'm not going to stop.'

By Kevin Patra | NFL.com
June 12, 2023

Kyler Murray's tumultuous 2022 campaign ended in gruesome fashion, with the Arizona Cardinals quarterback suffering an ACL tear on Dec. 12 ...Murray and the Cards struggled through the early part of the season, getting off to a 3-6 start with Murray having just two games above the 280-yard passing mark. Then injuries began to strike, first with a hamstring issue that forced him out two games, then the season-ending ACL tear. Read more
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There is relevance when it is apparent (for those who watched Cardinals games) that Arizona's offense sputtered during Hopkins' suspension. Then Murray's on-the-field connection with Hopkins was slightly affected by the lingering hamstring issue and died after the ACL injury.

Back to Hopkins/McCoy. Hopkins accounted for 41%, 33%, 31% and 35% of McCoy's passing yards in four games. Dortch did eclipse Hopkins' 91-receiving yards performance against the 49ers by 12 more yards. McCoy can be commended for being able to capitalize with his #1 receiver and Dortch despite in a losing effort.

8 - (read above) 4 = 4 remaining games to analyze Hopkins' last season stats.

In three of those four games, Hopkins/Murray was accounted for 50%, 49%, and 46% of passing/receiving yards. Fans and viewers could see for themselves what Hopkins' injection into the offense meant for Arizona. That final combo game was below the previous performance efforts for Hopkins. He accounted for only 21% of the receiving load but it was obvious after the first drive and Murray-to-Hopkins touchdown pass that the Seahawks' defense would not allow any more big plays. Their safeties played way back the majority of the game forward.

Statistics are good for conversation. Statistics plus context makes conversation better. Or at least it should. I am absolutely certain a legendary defensive Hall of Fame caliber head coach agrees.
 

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Hopkins only played 9 games last year and had Colt Mccoy and David Blough throwing him the ball. Had he not been suspended he was on pace for a 1300 yard season, what Ceedee Lamb did and something Cooks has never done even in his prime. Both of his first two games back he had double digit catches. Dude was on fire the moment he returned; Titans got a steal here
We need to throw the whole "He had so and so throwing to him" as some type of feat. If you are a good receiver you put up production. Brandon Cooks does it, Terry McClaurin does it, Mike Evans and Godwin do it....its not the feat people think it is. Hell look at AJ Brown and Devonta? They have trash throwing to them and they put up 1k yards each.
 
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