Debunking Myths Surrounding Tony Romo

[TwoDeep3]

If you read many of the QBs he is compared to in the article are considered "elite". I think tony is better than the tier he is compared to but not quite up to snuff to be in the top tier. If Flacco is in the top tier than that list has no credibility.

You opinion of Flacco and the list could or could not be right.

But the premise of the article is second tier quarterbacks who are considered elite are measured against Romo.

If they are second tier, they are not elite.

P. Manning
T. Brady
B. Roethlisberger - as much as I hate to say this
A. Rodgers
D. Brees - borderline

That is it. No more to that list, regardless of what "someone" says.

In their prime, if any one of those guys was on the Dallas roster along with Tony Romo, Romo would be the back-up.

If you compare Romo to this group, then I believe the article would have some merit.

But in the end circumstances are different for all of those men, and looking strictly at the results ignores many components that have an influence.

I understood the original premise, and found fault because the guy cherry picked the competition for Romo to make his title fit the results.

 

[jrumann59]

You opinion of Flacco and the list could or could not be right.

But the premise of the article is second tier quarterbacks who are considered elite are measured against Romo.

If they are second tier, they are not elite.

P. Manning
T. Brady
B. Roethlisberger - as much as I hate to say this
A. Rodgers
D. Brees - borderline

That is it. No more to that list, regardless of what "someone" says.

In their prime, if any one of those guys was on the Dallas roster along with Tony Romo, Romo would be the back-up.

If you compare Romo to this group, then I believe the article would have some merit.

But in the end circumstances are different for all of those men, and looking strictly at the results ignores many components that have an influence.

I understood the original premise, and found fault because the guy cherry picked the competition for Romo to make his title fit the results.

I understand but when prognisticators consider Ryan even stafford Elite worthy but Romo is not that is point. The only Reason Eli and Flacco makes the Elite class is because they won a Super bowl.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I understand but when prognisticators consider Ryan even stafford Elite worthy but Romo is not that is point. The only Reason Eli and Flacco makes the Elite class is because they won a Super bowl.

Prognosticators. As in Vegas? Or just talking heads?

If it is vegas, I'd like to see the data.

If it is talking heads, it is opinion, and that and $5.46 gets you a cuppa at Starbucks.

 

[burmafrd]

You opinion of Flacco and the list could or could not be right.

But the premise of the article is second tier quarterbacks who are considered elite are measured against Romo.

If they are second tier, they are not elite.

P. Manning
T. Brady
B. Roethlisberger - as much as I hate to say this
A. Rodgers
D. Brees - borderline

That is it. No more to that list, regardless of what "someone" says.

In their prime, if any one of those guys was on the Dallas roster along with Tony Romo, Romo would be the back-up.

If you compare Romo to this group, then I believe the article would have some merit.

But in the end circumstances are different for all of those men, and looking strictly at the results ignores many components that have an influence.

I understood the original premise, and found fault because the guy cherry picked the competition for Romo to make his title fit the results.

I would switch Brees and the Rapist, but keep the same top tier. I would not put the Rapist in that top 5. Rodgers- really conflicted about him. He is a stat monster but more like P Manning in that respect. Brady- up until a couple of years ago I had him at the top but now with his aging I no longer put him there. P Manning and Brady are aging- probably slowly descending now. Brees- probably no one is more consistent right now.

 

[ufcrules1]

I understand but when prognisticators consider Ryan even stafford Elite worthy but Romo is not that is point. The only Reason Eli and Flacco makes the Elite class is because they won a Super bowl.

Not to mention Eli and Flacco played amazingly in the playoffs AND Superbowl. Eli is a 2 time super bowl MVP and Flacco is also a super bowl MVP. I would say that Eli might not be elite but he isn't far away. He is CERTAINLY elite when it counts and that is the playoff and super bowl.

 

[burmafrd]

Not to mention Eli and Flacco played amazingly in the playoffs AND Superbowl. Eli is a 2 time super bowl MVP and Flacco is also a super bowl MVP. I would say that Eli might not be elite but he isn't far away. He is CERTAINLY elite when it counts and that is the playoff and super bowl.

yeah Eli was so amazing when he put that ball right in Samuels hands.
He was so amazing when he chucked it up there and a guy made a once in a lifetime catch.

Your hatred of Romo and slobbering all over Manning is instructional in how hatred can skew someones perception of reality.

 

[Nation]

Oh ok. How long after the pick was made did they make that trade? Same day, next day, next week? And was it player-for-player or did the Chargers get something else in return? And Eli is an idiot. San Diego is a nice city.

I don't think the issue was whether or not San Diego was a nice city, it was the organization's history (and why he has two Super Bowls)

 

[Everson24]

You opinion of Flacco and the list could or could not be right.

But the premise of the article is second tier quarterbacks who are considered elite are measured against Romo.

If they are second tier, they are not elite.

P. Manning
T. Brady
B. Roethlisberger - as much as I hate to say this
A. Rodgers
D. Brees - borderline

That is it. No more to that list, regardless of what "someone" says.

In their prime, if any one of those guys was on the Dallas roster along with Tony Romo, Romo would be the back-up.

If you compare Romo to this group, then I believe the article would have some merit.

But in the end circumstances are different for all of those men, and looking strictly at the results ignores many components that have an influence.

I understood the original premise, and found fault because the guy cherry picked the competition for Romo to make his title fit the results.

I don't think the writer of the article was saying Romo was elite (at least not elite as in Tom Brady. Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning). He was basically saying many of the career stats show Tony Romo compares quite favorably with the elite and certainly better than most of the second tier group that all seem to garner much more respect than Romo.

I must admit that I get very irritated when the national media when talking about Tony Romo only seems to show his interceptions and fumbles and then they even have the opponents radio announcers' insulting soundbites to go along with them ("what a boneheaded interception!"comes to mind from the Commanders game). To me this is wrong. Ben Roethlisberger threw away at least four games at the end of games last year and how many of those do we see on ESPN and NFL Network? It's no wonder our own fan bases' opinion of Tony Romo is so low right now. We have all been brainwashed right along with the rest of america that Tony Romo does not deserve to wear an NFL uniform.

I think the author of the article does a great job of using career stats to show that Romo does indeed belong and not only does he belong he is still better than most of the quarterbacks in the league today, even some of those other so called franchise quarterbacks like Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford and Phillip Rivers.

Tony Romo is no clown and the national media should be ashamed of themselves for stooping so low for the sake of ratings and portraying him as such.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I don't think the writer of the article was saying Romo was elite (at least not elite as in Tom Brady. Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning). He was basically saying many of the career stats show Tony Romo compares quite favorably with the elite and certainly better than most of the second tier group that all seem to garner much more respect than Romo.

I must admit that I get very irritated when the national media when talking about Tony Romo only seems to show his interceptions and fumbles and then they even have the opponents radio announcers' insulting soundbites to go along with them ("what a boneheaded interception!"comes to mind from the Commanders game). To me this is wrong. Ben Roethlisberger threw away at least four games at the end of games last year and how many of those do we see on ESPN and NFL Network? It's no wonder our own fan bases' opinion of Tony Romo is so low right now. We have all been brainwashed right along with the rest of america that Tony Romo does not deserve to wear an NFL uniform.

I think the author of the article does a great job of using career stats to show that Romo does indeed belong and not only does he belong he is still better than most of the quarterbacks in the league today, even some of those other so called franchise quarterbacks like Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford and Phillip Rivers.

Tony Romo is no clown and the national media should be ashamed of themselves for stooping so low for the sake of ratings and portraying him as such.

There are no degrees of elite.

 

[AmishCowboy]

That was a good write up, but, really, good luck with a poster or two (and they know who I'm talking about) that will tell you that stats are just stats (until they want to use them for their purpose), that it's the winning that counts and that Romo only loses games when the game matters the most (as if all game don't), a total lack of the TEAM concept!

For some reason they know more about Romo and how the NFL works than either Romo or the NFL. Happy hunting, friend, happy hunting...

 

[Everson24]

There are no degrees of elite.

I disagree with that. Technically every starting NFL quarterback is elite in the sense that there are only 32 of them in the world. When we talk elite are we talking top 3?, top 5? top 10? Was Terry Bradshaw elite because he won 4 Super Bowls even though his stats are very pedestrian and he played on a roster with some of the most talented players in NFL history? Are there some years when there are no elite QB's in the league? To me the term "elite" is so subjective that there must be some varying degrees of the term.

 

[Califan007]

Not too many "myths" were debunked in that article. Saying Romo is better than the likes of Andy Dalton, Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford and Jay Cutler isn't exactly a slam-dunk argument lol...In fact, the only QB you compare him to that would start to come close to debunking the things you're wanting to debunk is Matt Ryan. And you may have actually proven that Ryan may be a bit overhyped moreso than anything about Romo.

 

[Red Dragon]

People believe what they want to believe.


Doesn't matter whether it's politics, sports, or something else - if people want to believe something ("Romo is a terrible!" "This politicians is the worst governor we've ever had!"), then it's nearly impossible to convince them otherwise.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Romo isn't elite. That's OK. The problem is that he is one of the highest paid QBs in the league.

Well, a fitting reward for winning one playoff game.

 

[dart]

Romo isn't elite. That's OK. The problem is that he is one of the highest paid QBs in the league.

(USATSI) Tony Romo -- Dallas Cowboys ($26.5M in cash in 2013; $11.8M in cap):

The polarizing figure has long been the apple of Jerry Jones' eye, which is all that really matters in Big D. Romo's new deal this offseason nets him more than $25 million in year one of the deal, and puts the long-time playoff sufferer (and someone known for his big-game failures in general) up among the very elite among passers. Romo will average $18 million per year in this deal, fifth-most in the NFL. Given how his December and January numbers don't nearly match those from autumn, and given all the pressure that comes with being the QB in Big D, this fat new deal only ratcheted up the expectations. I don't see him as a top-five QB, not even close. But thanks to the next guy on this list, Romo was going to end up getting north of $15 million.

 

[zack]

Not to mention Eli and Flacco played amazingly in the playoffs AND Superbowl. Eli is a 2 time super bowl MVP and Flacco is also a super bowl MVP. I would say that Eli might not be elite but he isn't far away. He is CERTAINLY elite when it counts and that is the playoff and super bowl.

Eli threw for 1000 less than the previous season. He went 4 games straight without throwing a TD. He played horrible towards the end of last season and his team, Super Bowl Camps missed the playoffs. Partly because he defense struggled to stop people and get turnovers. Sound familiar. Eli did nothing last season to overcome what his defense couldn't.

 

[AbeBeta]

Eli threw for 1000 less than the previous season. He went 4 games straight without throwing a TD. He played horrible towards the end of last season and his team, Super Bowl Camps missed the playoffs. Partly because he defense struggled to stop people and get turnovers. Sound familiar. Eli did nothing last season to overcome what his defense couldn't.

Folks on this board just need to get over the Eli thing. He's won two superbowls and has been outstanding during those two runs -- particularly in the postseason when you generally face really good defenses (or offenses that limits how much you get the ball). How many times does he have to win the SB before fans here show some intelligence and give him a little credit?

 

[zack]

Folks on this board just need to get over the Eli thing. He's won two superbowls and has been outstanding during those two runs -- particularly in the postseason when you generally face really good defenses (or offenses that limits how much you get the ball). How many times does he have to win the SB before fans here show some intelligence and give him a little credit?

His Super Bowl run has nothing to do with my post. I gave him credit where credit was due. But when the media says he's a top 5 QB but plays erratic like last season, why isn't he called out for it. What happens if he continues to decline? Is the media going to still say he's elite?

 

[AbeBeta]

His Super Bowl run has nothing to do with my post. I gave him credit where credit was due. But when the media says he's a top 5 QB but plays erratic like last season, why isn't he called out for it. What happens if he continues to decline? Is the media going to still say he's elite?

Erratic. His team went 9-7. Just like in 2011. That doesn't strike me as erratic.

His passer rating was 93 in 2011 and 87 in 2012. That doesn't strike me as erratic.

Completion % was 61 in 2011 and 60 in 2012. That doesn't strike me as erratic.

29TD and 16 Picks in 2011. 26 and 15 in 2012. That doesn't strike me as erratic.

Only real difference is yards and much of that comes down to Nicks being out and teams scheming to limit Cruz's YAC

 

[Everson24]

His Super Bowl run has nothing to do with my post. I gave him credit where credit was due. But when the media says he's a top 5 QB but plays erratic like last season, why isn't he called out for it. What happens if he continues to decline? Is the media going to still say he's elite?

This is part of the premise of the article. Other quarterbacks seem to get much more leeway when they screw up when compared to Tony Romo. Why can't we cut the guy a little slack? After all he was an undrafted free agent and has far exceeded expectations all the while giving us Cowboys fans some pretty exciting games. Would you really rather have Testaverde or Bledsoe back? Not me.