CFZ Decision time is almost here-in house fa's/veteran cuts

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Roy, you know I'm a Dak supporter, he has struggled against the 49ers in back to back seasons, which many do against that defense. To be able to have more success, they are going to have to get more balanced, have legitimate receiver opposite Lamb.
How about a legitimate run game and more physical run game, starts at LG and then when Steele gets back...both those games the OL was shaky , bad at times 2021 11 penalties killed drives, brought back big plays, and for sure having to pay 1st and 20 half the game is unfair advantage for any offense, as well as no run game. people sweep that under the rug as if Dak played poorly for no reason, 2022 same thing no run game, lack of push on the line meaning the OL was being held up or pushed back most of the game.. balance?? heck il take better run game over a Wr2 , i mean Gallup will be better but just being one dimensional is killer, against that type of D.

KC won against the eagles because int he 2nd half they ran the ball down the eagles throat, it opened up a pass game too be just efficient.. blame dak is what fans like to do but Team pay is important and down the stretch last 5-6 games Pollard 3.8 YPC 5 games i believe no tds, ironic they claim rush played great, he didnt he had a superior OL, run game, STs and defense fjr that stretch,..,much of that became inconsistent after dak returns and not many will be honest and say that why we weren't as dominate, blowing a 17 and 14 point 4th qtr leads giving up huge run production , run game disappears, st starts making mistakes, OL becomes injured and constant shuffling all led to those loses, not just oh dalk threw too many INTs , right had nothing to do with his arm being hit, jersey being grabbed, dirty pocket, tipped balls, and Wrs not getting separation or having balls hit their hands and bounce off them. right Daks the issue.
 

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I agree with all that except LVE and Armstrong. No chance we cut Armstrong, He punched well above his contract with 8.5 sacks, he’s also a special teams beast. He’s a bargain at twice the price.

I don’t think LVE is a good contract though. It was great he made it through this season and all but I don’t trust him to do it two seasons in a row. I’m not a fan of paying anybody we can’t trust to be on the field.
LVE is keeper is if they dont go get Wagner, cant have both but need one of them,
 

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How about a legitimate run game and more physical run game, starts at LG and then when Steele gets back...both those games the OL was shaky , bad at times 2021 11 penalties killed drives, brought back big plays, and for sure having to pay 1st and 20 half the game is unfair advantage for any offense, as well as no run game. people sweep that under the rug as if Dak played poorly for no reason, 2022 same thing no run game, lack of push on the line meaning the OL was being held up or pushed back most of the game.. balance?? heck il take better run game over a Wr2 , i mean Gallup will be better but just being one dimensional is killer, against that type of D.

KC won against the eagles because int he 2nd half they ran the ball down the eagles throat, it opened up a pass game too be just efficient.. blame dak is what fans like to do but Team pay is important and down the stretch last 5-6 games Pollard 3.8 YPC 5 games i believe no tds, ironic they claim rush played great, he didnt he had a superior OL, run game, STs and defense fjr that stretch,..,much of that became inconsistent after dak returns and not many will be honest and say that why we weren't as dominate, blowing a 17 and 14 point 4th qtr leads giving up huge run production , run game disappears, st starts making mistakes, OL becomes injured and constant shuffling all led to those loses, not just oh dalk threw too many INTs , right had nothing to do with his arm being hit, jersey being grabbed, dirty pocket, tipped balls, and Wrs not getting separation or having balls hit their hands and bounce off them. right Daks the issue.
Fixing the offense is the priority, the likes of Zeke/Noah Brown/McGovern/Shultz need to be upgraded.
 

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Fixing the offense is the priority, the likes of Zeke/Noah Brown/McGovern/Shultz need to be upgraded.
Noah Brown does not need to be upgraded. He just needs to go back to being the 5th WR instead of 2nd WR...

I have no idea what type of offers he'll get. Obviously the Cedrick Wilson contract (7M per) is too much but that was a dumb contract by the Dolphins.
 

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Noah Brown does not need to be upgraded. He just needs to go back to being the 5th WR instead of 2nd WR...

I have no idea what type of offers he'll get. Obviously the Cedrick Wilson contract (7M per) is too much but that was a dumb contract by the Dolphins.
Think Noah Brown has priced himself off the roster, wonder if Semi can play a similar role, being at #5 receiver who can be an asset on teams and certain offensive packages.
 

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Think the team wants to give Sam Williams more reps, one of Armstrong/Fowler doesn't return, most likely Fowler cause Armstrong is an excellent special teamer as well.

If McGovern's market value exceeds 5-6 annually that is a overpay.
Fowler is pretty cheap though.. So, there's that to consider.
 

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Think the team wants to give Sam Williams more reps, one of Armstrong/Fowler doesn't return, most likely Fowler cause Armstrong is an excellent special teamer as well.

If McGovern's market value exceeds 5-6 annually that is a overpay.
Fowler will probably be too expensive to being back. He wont get 10m AAV, but more likely 8. I dont think they will be in the market for that.

I think the smart thing to do is sell high on Armstrong. You might be able to get a day 2 pick for him
 

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Almost the entire fanbase had the Cowboys outside of the playoffs and they pretty much got to the same exact point, but actually played better against the 49ers on the road. When did the expectations change last season to now we are SB contenders? Sometimes addition by subtract works. They still have need areas of need, but the arrow is pointing in the right direction going to the playoff back to back season, in a year in which our QB went down multiple games.
Having a QB who visually succumbs to in-game pressure situations and plays the season like a miniseries of Jekyll and Hyde isnt a depiction of an upwardly pointing arrow. The manner of the second half capitulation (ON SEEING HIS RUNNING GAME GO DOWN) vrs the 9'ers is the whole reason to worry....it doesnt matter if we get a WR2, better scheming that supposedly suits Dak (when the curl is his safety blanket and meets his abilities vrs hitting an IN).

It's HOW THE WHEELS CAME OFF is the problem, it's never the same excuse game on game. How quickly Dak Fan's fail to acknowledge that in the Buccs game EVERYTHING WAS PERFECT.
 

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I think they are going to extend him and try to surround him with better talent. Until we see this team start spending money in fa, we are going to see the same results. Clearly this isn't working, cannot just use the draft to team build.
..... to get to the "spending ALL-IN money" you have to be CERTAIN. Dak's the epitome of uncertainty. The last team to successful go ALL-IN (which we would need to do as the Lamb, Diggs, Parsons contracts will mean the window is 2023/4.
 

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Having a QB who visually succumbs to in-game pressure situations and plays the season like a miniseries of Jekyll and Hyde isnt a depiction of an upwardly pointing arrow. The manner of the second half capitulation (ON SEEING HIS RUNNING GAME GO DOWN) vrs the 9'ers is the whole reason to worry....it doesnt matter if we get a WR2, better scheming that supposedly suits Dak (when the curl is his safety blanket and meets his abilities vrs hitting an IN).

It's HOW THE WHEELS CAME OFF is the problem, it's never the same excuse game on game. How quickly Dak Fan's fail to acknowledge that in the Buccs game EVERYTHING WAS PERFECT.
What I do know is, the Cowboys are at their best when they are able to dominate on the ground. Don't put everything on Dak's shoulders, cut down on the turnovers/penalties, will give us the best chance for success. The offense the last two seasons fell off a cliff, once the run game disappeared, that cannot happened.
 

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Fowler will probably be too expensive to being back. He wont get 10m AAV, but more likely 8. I dont think they will be in the market for that.

I think the smart thing to do is sell high on Armstrong. You might be able to get a day 2 pick for him
If we could get a day 2 pick, trade him now!
 

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The front office has a lot of difficult decisions this offseason, we also have to keep to mind, 3 big contracts are on the horizon: Diggs, Lamb, Parsons.

Dak-team needs cap space and extending his contract is the easiest way to accomplish this by spreading out his guarantees. If they believe he still is their long-term QB, no brainer, but if they have any reservations, leave the contract alone.

Tyron Smith has a over 17 million cap hit this season. For a player who plays a handful of games, not a smart decision, especially now that they have found his replacement in Tyler Smith. Could we see a similar pay cut, like we saw with DLaw? Team can save close to 10 million if he is released, even more if a June 1st cut

Zeke Elliot will either be released which saves close to 5 million, double that as a June 1st cut or accept a major pay cut, which I cannot see happening. Cannot see him accepting a 2-3 million dollar deal.

Players who probably priced themselves off the roster: Shultz, McGovern, Noah Brown, Cooper Rush.

All about the cost: Lve/Wilson. Think they want both back, but they aren't going to overpay either.

Hankins should be a priority resign and won't cost too much money. Watkins probably the same.

Let Barr walk.

Anthony Brown is a 30 year old coming off a achilles injury, time to move on.

Goodwin offers nothing outside of Special Teams, both Joseph/Wright can replace him. Same for Gifford.

Potential Defensive veteran cuts: Armstrong save 5.5 million, did nothing after they stopped all the twists/stunts. Might be him or Fowler. Gallimore is the 3rd string DT, saves 3 million. Lewis saves 5 million where Bland might be a better/cheaper option.

Maher had such a great year, until the yips in the playoffs. Think he returns, but they bring in legitimate competition.



WHY DOES EVERYONE WANT TO CUT ARMSTRONG, I DON'T GET IT
 

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" for good" great job with the emotional outburst over one bad game that was not an indicator on how great a year he had prior to that playoff game that didn't cost us the game bTW,,it was a blowout luckily., he was great all RS.. not sure what you saw and the year before in sport duty was also great for the saints,. he easily gets starting job and IMHO should of had a shot to compete in TC for this job,

the overreactions by fans are priceless and sat. He will easily be on a roster this year and startig ..remonder only 2-3 payers at each position can be labeled elite and then you have a handful of very good which last year Maher was part of , then you have truly bad..about bottom half of kickers last year were far worse.

maher was top 10 realy could be top 5 if we pick apart the stats..
293290.6

2 of his misses were over 58 and one from 60 so anything under 55 he was nearly perfect, sure hes done over one truly bad game lmao,.



You'll find yourself being the only one supporting Maher on here, have fun!!!
 

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WHY DOES EVERYONE WANT TO CUT ARMSTRONG, I DON'T GET IT
I don't either, in his limited playing time, since he has been drafted. He has done nothing but improve every season.
He out played Gregory the last 2 seasons, and lucked into them signing him when Gregory bolted for the "Smokies" ... err ... the Rockies.
 

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You'll find yourself being the only one supporting Maher on here, have fun!!!
I am ok with bringing Maher back, but have some better TC competition other than this Vaizcaino guy.
But if they don't bring him back, just as well, not going to lose any sleep over it.
 
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